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Noriko Mai
#1 - 2012-07-24 07:59:38 UTC
http://www.facebook.com/RifterEE
http://www.rifter.ee/

Is it? And if yes, how to report? Never done this before.

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dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-07-24 08:12:51 UTC  |  Edited by: dexington
I don't think the minmatar logo i copyrighted, and it looks a little different.

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Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-07-24 09:33:04 UTC
dexington wrote:
I don't think the minmatar logo i copyrighted, and it looks a little different.


They just rotated the minmatar logo to a different position and the company is called rifter. Lol It's about as blatant copy as you can get.
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2012-07-24 09:36:58 UTC
dexington wrote:
I don't think the minmatar logo i copyrighted, and it looks a little different.

You don't need to register a copyright to own it

Probably the best way to contact'd be support@eveonline.com or info@ccpgames.com
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2012-07-24 09:37:57 UTC
Hay it says here these guys do graphic design cool
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-07-24 10:01:59 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
dexington wrote:
I don't think the minmatar logo i copyrighted, and it looks a little different.

You don't need to register a copyright to own it


Saying you own it is not enough, take the smiley where the owner never applied for trademark or copyright, which means everyone can freely use it.

I guess Eve as a product, has some legal protection for it's original artwork.

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Demolishar
United Aggression
#7 - 2012-07-24 10:53:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Demolishar
dexington wrote:
Benny Ohu wrote:
dexington wrote:
I don't think the minmatar logo i copyrighted, and it looks a little different.

You don't need to register a copyright to own it


Saying you own it is not enough, take the smiley where the owner never applied for trademark or copyright, which means everyone can freely use it.

I guess Eve as a product, has some legal protection for it's original artwork.


Trademarking the smiley eh?

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Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2012-07-24 11:01:20 UTC
You own a copyright as soon as you create the work. You own a trademark by using it. Registration only helps with potential disputes.
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#9 - 2012-07-24 11:11:12 UTC
dexington wrote:
Benny Ohu wrote:
dexington wrote:
I don't think the minmatar logo i copyrighted, and it looks a little different.

You don't need to register a copyright to own it


Saying you own it is not enough, take the smiley where the owner never applied for trademark or copyright, which means everyone can freely use it.

No, registration or any formal application for copyright is not necessary for a work of art to be protected. This goes for any international dispute too as regulated under the Bern Convention, even if the offending party resides in the US of A who requires registration for statutory damages.
gfldex
#10 - 2012-07-24 11:12:10 UTC
dexington wrote:
Saying you own it is not enough, take the smiley where the owner never applied for trademark or copyright, which means everyone can freely use it.


Copy right law was changed after the smiley was published. And you refer to US law. Both companies in question are based in the EU.

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Private Pineapple
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2012-07-24 11:26:29 UTC
What is with all this internet lawyer business recently?

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J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-07-24 11:28:32 UTC
Hey they even have their google map location displayed, this is were CCP Soundwave goes into orbital bombardment mode
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dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-07-24 11:42:35 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
You own a copyright as soon as you create the work.


You own the copyright to any original work you create, which may or may not apply to the in-game logos, at least some of them seem heavily inspired from existing art work, e.g. the gallente shield, and you can find a lot of nautilus logo's that share a lot of characteristics with the minmatar logo.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#14 - 2012-07-24 11:46:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
That website is doing it wrong, needs more rust & less shiny. Someone from CCPs legal team should contact them though

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Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
#15 - 2012-07-24 12:15:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Tom Gerard
The page is in Estonian... I think being Estonian is enough punishment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estonia

TL:DR

Occupied by the Vikings.
Occupied by the Danish.
Occupied by the Russians.
Occupied by the Germans.
Occupied by the Europeans.
Occupied by the Swedish.

These people haven't really won a coin toss in a while, maybe we should let them have the logo =P

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Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#16 - 2012-07-24 12:23:33 UTC
The word "Rifter" is not trademarked or copyrighted.

And the logo ... if rotating the logo a little bit and doing some small modifications was against any law, LG would need to change its logo.

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Viziam
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2012-07-24 12:40:26 UTC
"Internet Lawyers"

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Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2012-07-24 13:06:41 UTC
dexington wrote:
You own the copyright to any original work you create, which may or may not apply to the in-game logos, at least some of them seem heavily inspired from existing art work, e.g. the gallente shield, and you can find a lot of nautilus logo's that share a lot of characteristics with the minmatar logo.

Look. I just let you know something you didn't. I wasn't oppositional, I just told you, and I told the OP the contact mails. To be nice. First you argue (wrongly) and now you just change your argument to something else, for the sake of arguing.

~May or may not~ Gods above

P.S. The "original work" part is wrong, too
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-07-24 13:36:27 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
dexington wrote:
You own the copyright to any original work you create, which may or may not apply to the in-game logos, at least some of them seem heavily inspired from existing art work, e.g. the gallente shield, and you can find a lot of nautilus logo's that share a lot of characteristics with the minmatar logo.

Look. I just let you know something you didn't. I wasn't oppositional, I just told you, and I told the OP the contact mails. To be nice. First you argue (wrongly) and now you just change your argument to something else, for the sake of arguing.

~May or may not~ Gods above

P.S. The "original work" part is wrong, too


You help is much appreciated, next time i have any questions i'll ask you, Google and Wikipedia seem to have all the wrong answers.

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2012-07-24 15:17:50 UTC
dexington wrote:
I don't think the minmatar logo i copyrighted, and it looks a little different.


Trademarked, I believe you are looking for. ALL things are copyrighted by default based on the Berne Convention, announcing and filing said copyright merely strengthens the penalties for use.

Still, Rifter + Min = pretty blatant. Perhaps they're EVE fans?
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