Out of Pod Experience

Your point clashes against the reality of almost every european country.

Let's look at my own country vs the USA, 2010:

Intentional murder per 100,000, USA: 4.8
Intentional murder per 100,000, Spain: 0.72

In Spain it's almost impossible to obtain a license to own a short arm for self-defense unless you're a part of security forces, the military, or work in certain professions (jewellers, FAI). Also the privilege that policemen and military have in that regard it's because they've been targeted by a terrorist band for some 40 years, so the law was modified to allow them to have one personal weapon at their home, plus a right to carry their issued weapon when not on duty.

The consequences of self-defense weapons being so strictly limited are funny; I think that the last time a policeman was killed on duty was in 2010 (it happens each few years in my country, with a population of 44 million).

Murder rate is so low that the mortal stabbing of a teenager makes national headlines (just happend this last weekend). Likely will be a few months until another such crime makes to the news.

So, you see: Spanish citizens are esentially barred to owe short firearms of any kind and very specifically for self-defense, and yet intentional murder is quite below USA's index. How could that be?

I read this thread from start to finish, and the only thing i could think was "Omg! This sounds exactly like the highsec vs null bitchfests!"

With a beard like yours, Allah wouldn't have you.

I also decided to do a random street view of Madrid for the hell of it and on my second hit it looks much like a building that you describe with high fences and bars on windows.

google map address reference: 11 Calle de la Macarena, Madrid

My first hit looked like a string of shops in a busy main road.

Rig this up with something belt fed and your home is safe forever!

I bet that included drunken brawls, something we got very good at after we got 24/7 drinking. Also telegraph

Had there been a hero, the hero would have been arrested

you see, idiots in California voted that state into oblivion, but being idiots, they go running east, and Colorado is one of those places. But did they learn? No. They let the same kinds of crapp laws pass.

This is why I would not care a whit if the United States fell apart and each state would become capable of controlling immigration into it from ALL points - especially Californians.

In Montana, if you park a car overnight with CA tags, or WA or OR, the residents are likely to slash the tires and break the windows to send a message to you to get your idiot-voting ass back to wherever you came from. I don't condone such violations of private property, but I can fully understand.

"American style democracy" is weaponized where every day you have to live in fear of being out-voted on some topic, and it matter not what that topic is. Sometimes I suspect the guys with the towels on their head are more afraid of this then our entertainment industry.

You're right that there's a cultural factor; otherwise it would unsustainable to have 25% unemployment rate (50% for the young ones under 30) with an average to low crime rate. Would be long to explain, but anyway, in Spain weapons are not seen as a warrant for personal freedom, but a threat, mostly because every past tyrant got his share of population in favor of tyranny and they armed themselves against the rest. In our experience, people arm themselves to tyrannize others, so probably on that point we like to even the odds by preventing everyone to arm themselves. When ONLY mofos and cirminals want to arm themselves, you know what to think of anyone who wants to arm himself... and deal with it accordingly (restriction laws). At least in Spain.

But then, the main reason why an American must arm himself it's the other armed American. Armed American bring the need for more armed American, which is a funny vicious circle in which the USA put themselves for no logical reason. They're not under a massive military threat and if they ever find themselves fighting a tyranny, their neighbor is going to shoot them dead for not sharing his ideal. Nobody just wakes up and say "let's tyrannize my fellows"; they always got a good, legitimate (if wrong) interpretation of reality to justify themselves... "we're gonna dod this for a while just to get rid of X threat to our national ideals...". And then they begin shooting liberals, so to speak.

So essentially American got a firearm issue because of their culture and culture is something the American create themselves. Much as a beaten wife justifies her agressor, American justify their love for firearms.

On drugs traffic: learn some geography and don't mix it with crime rate, please.

As for guns, everything is restricted. Anyway, there's like 1 hunting/sports weapon for each 40 citizens (some 1,200,000 such weapons for 44,000,000 inhabitants).

Pfff, when you take the brunt of 3 world wars from start to finish you can start talking about winning wars.