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"Batman" mass-murderer.....hopelessly addicted to EVE?

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Sol Badguy Durandal
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2012-07-23 22:40:52 UTC
I remember when they tried to blame Columbine on the fact that the kids played Doom all the time.
Adalynne Rohks
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2012-07-23 22:43:15 UTC
Wow. I thought your other thread was bad, but this is terrible on so many different levels. I hope I can find an ignore feature, just for you. If not, I'll have to settle for simply not wasting more keystrokes responding to your worthless "content"
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2012-07-23 22:43:47 UTC
I do love that the media gives these incidents 24-hour international coverage for a week or more and then scratch their heads wondering why these things keep happening

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Charles Baker
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2012-07-23 22:46:01 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
I do love that the media gives these incidents 24-hour international coverage for a week or more and then scratch their heads wondering why these things keep happening


To be honest i've been incredibly annoyed by the whole ordeal, i don't know why it keeps recurring on the British news over here in the UK, not like it's exactly relevent, then again i throw a fit every time we get US election coverage here.
MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2012-07-23 22:46:16 UTC
DrSmegma wrote:
Mystic Lore Arcanium wrote:
It was a Gank... plain and simple.... which therefore must mean that it was the miners... err.. Movie watchers fault for not paying more attention to their surroundings.


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no it's high sec, concord swarmed him in seconds

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Dave Stark
#26 - 2012-07-23 22:46:41 UTC
oh look, another "people got shot, lets blame video games" article/thread/yawnfest.
Jess Maine
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#27 - 2012-07-23 22:49:35 UTC
Guns don't kill people guys! Games do! :O
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#28 - 2012-07-23 22:49:41 UTC
Herr Wilkus wrote:
Here's the link.
Wow. Not a pretty picture for the MMORPG industry....this is big.

From the article:
"It is believed Holmes was due to be kicked out of his flat and may have recently broken up with a girlfriend, while one friend said his addiction to video games meant he had lost touch with reality."

"It is not known exactly when Holmes stopped going to classes but it is thought he was nearing the end of the 30-day grace period. A former classmate from the University of Colorado suggested another cause for the killings, saying Holmes had lost touch with reality after becoming 'obsessed' with video games.

The classmate told the Daily Mail: 'James was obsessed with computer games and was always playing role-playing games.

'I can’t remember which one but it was something like World of Warcraft, one of those where you compete against people on the internet.

'He did not have much of a life apart from that and doing his work. James seemed like he wanted to be in the game and be one of the characters.

'It seemed that being online was more important to him than real life. He must have lost his sense of reality, how else can you shoot dozens of people you don’t know?'"


Witness the destruction and downfall of your typical 24 year old nerdish introvert.
Addicted to a MMORPG - completely loses touch with reality, wants to be a character in the game,
his girlfriend dumps him, he trashes his grades and drops out of grad school. No job or friends. Eviction notice was in the mail.

Life spiraling out of control, he goes and massacres dozens of people as if he was a character in a video game.

Its well known that companies such as CCP intentionally introduce countless positive feedback elements to entrap gamers - force them to continue consuming their highly addictive product....much as nicotine entraps smokers. Companies such as CCP in effect, are profiting from their socially irresponsible product.

For every James Holmes, there are hundreds, if not thousands, of other victims who manage destroy their lives in many smaller, but less shocking ways.

While individuals are capable of making their own choices, that argument no longer flies in civilized society. 'Individual responsibility' is the fig leaf that all purveyors of addictive products hide behind. A large share of blame should fall on the corporate entities that profit from the carnage.

The discussion should start now.
First, what can CCP do? What steps should CCP take to sell their product in more socially responsible way? How can CCP market EVE in a way that earns them a modest profit - while still protecting those (like James Holmes) most vulnerable to abuse? Because if they don't get ahead of this emerging threat, the federal government will.

What can the government do? The MMORPG industry is literally the Wild West, federal regulations almost non-existent. Yet the destructive/addictive properties of the internet and gaming are becoming quite evident. Reasonable regulations should be drafted to restrain the irresponsible elements of this industry. Oversight and firm enforcement "with teeth" - to prevent bad actors within the industry from doing severe damage to the fabric of our nation. The threat of stiff financial penalties have a way of bringing errant corporate entities around.

The irony of posting a thread about games turning people into psychopaths, using a character that you own because you play that game, is not lost on us.

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Kisumii
Astral Acquisitions Inc.
#29 - 2012-07-23 22:51:15 UTC
I played my little pony the other day and loved it so much that today I painted my horse rainbow and jumped him off a cliff. Damn these video games are ruining my life
Mia Trask
Perkone
Caldari State
#30 - 2012-07-23 22:51:23 UTC
Herr Wilkus wrote:
CCP intentionally introduce countless positive feedback elements



err do they!!!!
I'v had nothing but a big "**** you do it yourself" from day one
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#31 - 2012-07-23 22:51:30 UTC
Also, what the hell is your government going to do about a foreign game?

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Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#32 - 2012-07-23 22:53:16 UTC
Mia Trask wrote:
Herr Wilkus wrote:
CCP intentionally introduce countless positive feedback elements



err do they!!!!
I'v had nothing but a big "**** you do it yourself" from day one

I'm guessing he's talking about the serotin dump that occurs during certain RNG elements of common MMORPGs, but was too much of an idiot to elaborate.

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Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#33 - 2012-07-23 22:53:16 UTC
The guy was unstable to begin with, we shouldn't sugar coat everything in life just because some folks are really nuts.

He could have been addicted to Solitaire, and the outcome would likely be the same.

Also, that is a crap paper. Like Fox News, except in text form.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#34 - 2012-07-23 22:53:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
The Daily Mail, making Fox News look impartial since the year dot.

There is no evidence that video games cause people to harm others. Governments, greed, jealously and just plain not being right in the head does.

Adalynne Rohks wrote:
Wow. I thought your other thread was bad, but this is terrible on so many different levels. I hope I can find an ignore feature, just for you. If not, I'll have to settle for simply not wasting more keystrokes responding to your worthless "content"

Hit the yellow arrow by his name, select hide posts and the troll vanishes

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If Pac-Man had affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in dark rooms, munching pills and listening to repetitive electronic music.


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Adalun Dey
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#35 - 2012-07-23 23:07:00 UTC
Simi Kusoni wrote:
Also, what the hell is your government going to do about a foreign game?

Whatever China does about it. Block access to the servers.

Anyway, Eve is pretty sure not to get blamed for this incident. Really, the only potential threat for a media disaster where an individual goes on a killing spree and gets it linked to an addiction to EVE is when it's a NASA employee doing so. Everyone knows they are the only ones with access to spaceships.

Dust 514 addicted players on the other hand...

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Lyskal Oskold
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#36 - 2012-07-23 23:13:21 UTC
My life is going to **** and you don't see me taking it out on innocents.

Narcissist scum bag cracks because asking for help is, oh gosh, so damn hard. I just wish someone put him down before he did it. Taking out your problems on others is pathetic. I would have retained empathy if he didn't commit an atrocity because his crises management skills were inferior to that of a toddler. Also his parents said when they heard about it they thought it was him.

Umm, if you honestly believe your child is capable of doing that and actually might, it's your responsibility to step in. Useless parents, useless child.

The rest of the gaming community and the nature of MMOs cannot be blamed for the actions of the genetically inferior. The parents and child both had no idea what to do in such an obvious situation. I wonder how many months the guy was like that, all of his family and friends not giving a **** and him too stupid to.

tl;dr: Not our fault he couldn't handle his **** and his parents were as helpful as a barbed wire enema. Not even the common WoW player is that stupid.

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Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#37 - 2012-07-23 23:17:00 UTC
Lyskal Oskold wrote:
My life is going to **** and you don't see me taking it out on innocents.

Narcissist scum bag cracks because asking for help is, oh gosh, so damn hard. I just wish someone put him down before he did it. Taking out your problems on others is pathetic. I would have retained empathy if he didn't commit an atrocity because his crises management skills were inferior to that of a toddler. Also his parents said when they heard about it they thought it was him.

Umm, if you honestly believe your child is capable of doing that and actually might, it's your responsibility to step in. Useless parents, useless child.

The rest of the gaming community and the nature of MMOs cannot be blamed for the actions of the genetically inferior. The parents and child both had no idea what to do in such an obvious situation. I wonder how many months the guy was like that, all of his family and friends not giving a **** and him too stupid to.

tl;dr: Not our fault he couldn't handle his **** and his parents were as helpful as a barbed wire enema. Not even the common WoW player is that stupid.

I don't really think this has anything to do with genetic inferiority.

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Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#38 - 2012-07-23 23:17:09 UTC

To be quite honest most politicians are far scarier than gamers.

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Lyskal Oskold
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2012-07-23 23:19:59 UTC
Simi Kusoni wrote:
Lyskal Oskold wrote:
My life is going to **** and you don't see me taking it out on innocents.

Narcissist scum bag cracks because asking for help is, oh gosh, so damn hard. I just wish someone put him down before he did it. Taking out your problems on others is pathetic. I would have retained empathy if he didn't commit an atrocity because his crises management skills were inferior to that of a toddler. Also his parents said when they heard about it they thought it was him.

Umm, if you honestly believe your child is capable of doing that and actually might, it's your responsibility to step in. Useless parents, useless child.

The rest of the gaming community and the nature of MMOs cannot be blamed for the actions of the genetically inferior. The parents and child both had no idea what to do in such an obvious situation. I wonder how many months the guy was like that, all of his family and friends not giving a **** and him too stupid to.

tl;dr: Not our fault he couldn't handle his **** and his parents were as helpful as a barbed wire enema. Not even the common WoW player is that stupid.

I don't really think this has anything to do with genetic inferiority.


Considering all of his family, friends and he himself basically just left it even though they admitted he could do something like that brings me to the conclusion that something had to be in the water or something. It's like knowing for a fact someone is going to try and murder you in an hour and you don't call the cops, because it could sort it'self out.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#40 - 2012-07-23 23:25:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Simi Kusoni wrote:

I don't really think this has anything to do with genetic inferiority.


I hope by genetically inferior that Lyskal Oskold isn't referring to people that suffer from mental illness, just because discussion of it is still marred by a stigma doesn't mean that it is an inferiority, 25% of people suffer some form of mental illness in their life and if some of the external eve related forum threads on mental health are an indication it could be more than that .

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