EVE General Discussion

Lies.

I've been in and out of null-sec Alliances for most of my EVE life, sometimes I just like trying something new to keep my gameplay fresh and I'll alternate between nullsec, lowsec or highsec usually training my toons in multiple roles so I can cover a larger array of gameplay options.

One of the most discouraging factors for people who don't go down to nullsec is probably down to Alliance reputation, they may have assets and contracting them over to people to be logistified (yeah I made that word up :( ) to their home space is a great deal to ask. The idea of financial security in EVE is critical, some people don't know how to manage their finances well and have the looming fear of having to return to their Ibis to run Level 1 Missions in.

I guess secondly is the politics, the moment you join the Corp/Alliance of a rival your marked an enemy, perhaps even a massive portion of the influence map could be your enemy and it narrows your future joining prospects as recruiters will always use your corp history as a point of reference for trust even though you maybe not into the whole spying thing they can't ride on your word alone.

PS: These are reasons I think are the problem, I have no issue with basing myself in 0.0 and living there for a good while.

We dont force you to play the game our way we simply play the game they itis ment to be played. If this means you die by our hand by doing daft things than thats your own fault.

I'm sure you have some good points somewhere in there, but I can't get past your attitude. With all that text there has to be something valid in there.

And why should I have to scan you down to kill you. You already have me at a disadvantage, you have sentry guns on your side. If your cane+sentry guns can't kill my cane, than you are doing something wrong.

I get that your cane+sentry guns can't take a blob, but a lot of us don't bother with low sec gate camp blobs. Blobs suck!

So anyways I shouldn't be able to kill you at a gate or station? So you should be able to travel to my system from a market hub, sell all your crap at a profit with no risk. My only opportunity to kill you should be if you decide to hangout in space and wait for me to scan you down?


I don't care weather or not you go to null sec, I just want you to stay out of low sec. Thank you!

I came in expecting a decent counter-argument. I saw the opposition being called trolls.

Some time you sound reasonable, this isn't one of them. There are thousand of us in my region that are happy. Not trying to be an arse but again we don't want you there, you are not right for the job. Please stay out, and please stop trying to tell us how we should play the game.

I assume a lot of people care about this issue actually, as this has been a hot topic for many years in EVE (from both sides of the fence). And if thats not enough for you, I KNOW I CARE, so thats at least one confirmed player who cares.

PVPing wouldnt have been so hard to get into in this game (for me at least, and I suspect for other player as well) if it wasn't for two factors:

1. Most of the existing PvPers don't want company, they want TARGETS. Targets who dont know as much as they do about combat in EVE and as such are easy kills.
2. many if not most PvPers in EVEact as immature assholes. There, thats the impression you guys give off. Who wants to seek out immature assholes to play with? Not enough of us apparently..

i am NOT saying all PvPers are immature assholes, I have known and know quite a few who arent over the years. It just seems the very vocal majority is. Elitist assholes like BOB used to be, or "for ***** and giggles" assholes like many others. No wonder the SA Goons went from attempting to ruin this game to actually ruling it: they love the asshattery that you can do in EVE and get away with.

To some extent i agree with that, but when the people who want to prey on unwilling or inexperienced people (PvP or scamming both are good examples) vastly outnumber the rest, you have a negative trend. Some think EVE is at a place now where this is an issue for most gamers, some don't. I'm not sure yet. All I know is Hisec is still more populated than lowsec and 0.0. Go figure..

I wish i had a spambot that would just spam "IF YOU NEED TO ASK THAT QUESTION, YOU DON'T BELONG IN NULL SEC" every time someone spouts this particular piece of non-sense.

The OP does, however, illustrate the fundamental psychological difference between the null sec player (a better term would be the all-sec player, as null players play everywhere buy hi-sec types stick to one part of the game). The Hi-sec player asks "why would I?".. The null sec player ask "why would I not?"

I still think the "high sec only, no "pvp" ever, solo casual carebear type is a misfit in this game (why oh why wouldn't you play Star Trek, it's BUILT for you types), but to each his own I guess, I have no problems with people who choose to enjoy only a small, narrow unrepresentative slice of the game as long as they don't complain about the fact that this game doesn't cater to them

I need another spambot to spam "IF YOU CAN'T TAKE PEOPLE BEING MEAN TO YOU, PVP ISN'T FOR YOU" every time these kinds of postings come up.

pvp hard to get into? I went to low sec in a rifter and got blown up by a Brutix (dude was cool, gave me isk for a new rifter lol)/ PVP introduction complete.

I know I go for "deeper meaning" a lot, but thats because I see it all the time. The non-PvP crowd just seems to want things handed to them, which is why everyday someone is making a thread against ganking or gate camping (two EASILY avoidable things).

Is it really that hard to join a corp, or make friends, or sing up for faction warfare, or RvB, or EVe university, or any of the umpteen million other things thousands of eve players do everyday?