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Taranius De Consolville
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-07-23 10:28:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Taranius De Consolville
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Rordan D'Kherr
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-07-23 10:30:07 UTC
Taranius De Consolville wrote:


Now null sec. Please give me one solid reason and I mean SOLID reason why I should leave high sec and come to Null Sec? You make more Money?


Lol no.

Don't be scared, because being afk is not a crime.
Taranius De Consolville
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-07-23 10:31:51 UTC
Rordan D'Kherr wrote:
Taranius De Consolville wrote:


Now null sec. Please give me one solid reason and I mean SOLID reason why I should leave high sec and come to Null Sec? You make more Money?


Lol no.


And so begins the alt's in NPC corps trolling.

Post with your main
Major Bibi
#4 - 2012-07-23 10:35:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Major Bibi
well said


tho don't blame all pvp players it is only a small group of pvp zealots that keeps shouting and whinning how it is so unfair that nobody wants to play the game how they want to play it
learning anything more complex than pvp is beyond them , lets be honest basic pvp is one of the easiest things to learn in this game
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#5 - 2012-07-23 10:39:35 UTC
I know!

You tried this game, lost, it must feel a bit bad in a little-girl-whose-bff-started-to-bff-with-another-kind of way, but you know what? You can start all over! Just biomass that toon, start a new one from scratch and nobody has to know that you were once a hisec failure <3

Imagine, you can be popular and hang out with cool brosefs after downtime! Fly in fleets! Target primaries! All the beautiful things others have can be yours too!

Change is possible.

.
Xinivrae
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-07-23 10:45:18 UTC
I like how it initially went from this:

Taranius De Consolville wrote:
So it occurred to me that with all these *send more high sec players to low/null sec* may actually be a problem for EvE Online as a whole.

In the 4 years eve players have always said about low being more accessible to new/newish players bah blah blah...


to this

Taranius De Consolville wrote:
STOP BLAMING WELL MEANING HIGH SEC PLAYERS FOR YOUR MISTAKES AND SCREW UPS.
Taranius De Consolville
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-07-23 10:46:12 UTC
Roime wrote:
I know!

You tried this game, lost, it must feel a bit bad in a little-girl-whose-bff-started-to-bff-with-another-kind of way, but you know what? You can start all over! Just biomass that toon, start a new one from scratch and nobody has to know that you were once a hisec failure <3

Imagine, you can be popular and hang out with cool brosefs after downtime! Fly in fleets! Target primaries! All the beautiful things others have can be yours too!

Change is possible.


You can troll all you like in an attempt to look *smart* and *awsum* but as i don't know ANY real life mates who play this game, your reasoning is flawed on so many level's. I didn't fail. i have lots of ISK, a nice selection of ships including faction and navy ships, i do exploration and have fun.

You missed the entire point of this post and just wanted to look *cool* and attempt to troll me. You failed.
Taranius De Consolville
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-07-23 10:48:56 UTC
Xinivrae wrote:
I like how it initially went from this:

Taranius De Consolville wrote:
So it occurred to me that with all these *send more high sec players to low/null sec* may actually be a problem for EvE Online as a whole.

In the 4 years eve players have always said about low being more accessible to new/newish players bah blah blah...


to this

Taranius De Consolville wrote:
STOP BLAMING WELL MEANING HIGH SEC PLAYERS FOR YOUR MISTAKES AND SCREW UPS.


It is one and the same point and reason.

Null Sec players need to stop trying to force other players to play how they want them to play.

If you want to live in null, go ahead, have fun, if its great for you, great, have fun

But i like empire, i like messing around up here, i have a -10 pirate char which i NEVER gate camp with or station camp as my morals deem that unfair, so i pvp by probes and cloaking tactics. Over 3k kills on that account.

My point is that you people need to stop trying to FORCE others to play as you play and let people play EVE ONLINE as they want to.
Lilly Tiger
Megalith Heavy Industries
#9 - 2012-07-23 10:52:30 UTC
Your point is valid. Ignore the idiot trolls Bear


They simply can't seem to wrap their heads around the fact that most players in EVE do not want to play the game the way they like us to.

The best and worst thing about eve is the same: the players. EVE: so much player freedom, so many assholes. Twisted
Taranius De Consolville
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-07-23 10:56:45 UTC
Lilly Tiger wrote:
Your point is valid. Ignore the idiot trolls Bear


They simply can't seem to wrap their heads around the fact that most players in EVE do not want to play the game the way they like us to.

The best and worst thing about eve is the same: the players. EVE: so much player freedom, so many assholes. Twisted


Aye and that's what ive noticed, so many players throwing there toys out there prams screaming because they cant shoot me because I wont go and play in there home area.
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-07-23 10:59:05 UTC
Roime wrote:
Fly in fleets! Target primaries! All the beautiful things others have can be yours too!


If it's so great is don't understand why null-sec people constantly whine about all the things that are broken i null, and how boring the blob/supercap/etc warfare is.

When the choice is between being a carebear, or a nobody who is being told what to shoot, i pick carebear... at least then i can live my failed existence in hi-sec, happy and content, without constantly having to complain about all the things that is wrong with eve.

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2012-07-23 10:59:14 UTC
Major Bibi wrote:
learning anything more complex than pvp is beyond them


heh you think that using a spreadsheet that you downloaded from somewhere to build crap makes you good at this game

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
Taranius De Consolville
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-07-23 11:02:59 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
Major Bibi wrote:
learning anything more complex than pvp is beyond them


heh you think that using a spreadsheet that you downloaded from somewhere to build crap makes you good at this game


Don't derail my thread goon. Ofc it makes him better than you, you pick a ship, get a fit from your forums and join a fleet and shoot who your told to shoot, flying fleets of ships all the same because your FC ordered u to do so because he controls your game play

good for you, have fun, play your game

we don't want to do that, so stop trying to force us to
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#14 - 2012-07-23 11:03:14 UTC
dexington wrote:
Roime wrote:
Fly in fleets! Target primaries! All the beautiful things others have can be yours too!


If it's so great is don't understand why null-sec people constantly whine about all the things that are broken i null, and how boring the blob/supercap/etc warfare is.

When the choice is between being a carebear, or a nobody who is being told what to shoot, i pick carebear... at least then i can live my failed existence in hi-sec, happy and content, without constantly having to complain about all the things that is wrong with eve.


I don't live in null

Of course, for the bear, everything outside their cradle is the same.

.
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-07-23 11:03:31 UTC
Taranius De Consolville wrote:
In the 4 years eve players have always said about low being more accessible to new/newish players. But then I Ask you a question. With virtually no penalty for ship killing, any player can potentially pirate for a few days, go back to high sec, run his level 4's and get back to 5.0 sec stat and rinse and repeat.

Killing players in low sec/high sec that are not wt's should instantly reduce a player to -5.0 sec status. This would stop the *random* pirates in low sec and would leave the hardcore group who are pirates because they want to be.


"Lowsec is easily accessible by new players, because the penalties for PvP are low, people can try it out and then go back to make money. Let's make the penalties higher, that will make it more accessible."

0/10 not even gonna read the rest
Taranius De Consolville
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-07-23 11:09:17 UTC
Roime wrote:
dexington wrote:
Roime wrote:
Fly in fleets! Target primaries! All the beautiful things others have can be yours too!


If it's so great is don't understand why null-sec people constantly whine about all the things that are broken i null, and how boring the blob/supercap/etc warfare is.

When the choice is between being a carebear, or a nobody who is being told what to shoot, i pick carebear... at least then i can live my failed existence in hi-sec, happy and content, without constantly having to complain about all the things that is wrong with eve.


I don't live in null

Of course, for the bear, everything outside their cradle is the same.



Ofc it is, we play how we like with no risk because WE CHOOSE TO, its as simple as that. Your trolling for the sake of trolling.
Xinivrae
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2012-07-23 11:10:41 UTC
Ok, ok. Let's chat then because I'm curious as to some... stuff.

Taranius De Consolville wrote:
I Ask you a question. With virtually no penalty for ship killing, any player can potentially pirate for a few days, go back to high sec, run his level 4's and get back to 5.0 sec stat and rinse and repeat.

Killing players in low sec/high sec that are not wt's should instantly reduce a player to -5.0 sec status. This would stop the *random* pirates in low sec and would leave the hardcore group who are pirates because they want to be. Thus, more players would enter low sec because the amount of so called *pirates* wouldn't be there. The sec hit would be to large


What's the problem with the weekend pirate? Wouldn't your proposal here be shoehorning people into a certain play style? When I started eve, however long ago, my friend and I were weekend pirates. It was a fun break from missions, but it wasn't something we wanted to do as our career. Why should we be penalized so harshly for wanting to dip our toes into lowsec for pvp, or play around with rookie ships shooting each other and timing concord?
Taranius De Consolville
Doomheim
#18 - 2012-07-23 11:10:46 UTC
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
Taranius De Consolville wrote:
In the 4 years eve players have always said about low being more accessible to new/newish players. But then I Ask you a question. With virtually no penalty for ship killing, any player can potentially pirate for a few days, go back to high sec, run his level 4's and get back to 5.0 sec stat and rinse and repeat.

Killing players in low sec/high sec that are not wt's should instantly reduce a player to -5.0 sec status. This would stop the *random* pirates in low sec and would leave the hardcore group who are pirates because they want to be.


"Lowsec is easily accessible by new players, because the penalties for PvP are low, people can try it out and then go back to make money. Let's make the penalties higher, that will make it more accessible."

0/10 not even gonna read the rest


Blatant pvp Muppet. I have no patience for people who cannot see outside there box

I don't care what *ccp say* in *official* crap, they are wrong, they don't play the game, low sec is mostly dead, why is that i wonder? Oh yeh, i just told you why...
Taranius De Consolville
Doomheim
#19 - 2012-07-23 11:12:19 UTC
Xinivrae wrote:
Ok, ok. Let's chat then because I'm curious as to some... stuff.

Taranius De Consolville wrote:
I Ask you a question. With virtually no penalty for ship killing, any player can potentially pirate for a few days, go back to high sec, run his level 4's and get back to 5.0 sec stat and rinse and repeat.

Killing players in low sec/high sec that are not wt's should instantly reduce a player to -5.0 sec status. This would stop the *random* pirates in low sec and would leave the hardcore group who are pirates because they want to be. Thus, more players would enter low sec because the amount of so called *pirates* wouldn't be there. The sec hit would be to large


What's the problem with the weekend pirate? Wouldn't your proposal here be shoehorning people into a certain play style? When I started eve, however long ago, my friend and I were weekend pirates. It was a fun break from missions, but it wasn't something we wanted to do as our career. Why should we be penalized so harshly for wanting to dip our toes into lowsec for pvp, or play around with rookie ships shooting each other and timing concord?


You can call it whatever you like

If you want to pvp with no penalties, go to null sec

If you pvp in low sec, you should be punished by concord accordingly, not this light slap on the wrist you currently get.

Make a career choice, its as simple as that.
Victoria Sin
Doomheim
#20 - 2012-07-23 11:12:55 UTC
I make the same amount of money in null as I do in high. The problem with null (at least the region I'm in) is that you spend half the time chasing reds and half the time doing content to earn cash. In high you spend zero time chasing reds and all of your time earning cash, so it's about the same.
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