EVE General Discussion

Posting in a nerf capitals thread

I've never seen cap/super cap or blob warfare in my time out in 0.0. Mostly smaller roams, with maybe max 10 ships on a side. If people don't like blobbing or cap warfare, it might be good to look into what alliance you join instead of writing off 0.0.

Top 10 reasons 0.0 PvP is better than hisec PvP:

1. Hisec ~pvpers~ tend to have neutral RR, remote sensor boosts, tracking links and other assistance on standby because of the inherent risk aversion of the hisec denizen
2. Hisec ~pvpers~ will bail out and get their shiny T3s into an Orca or deaggress and dock the moment the engagement is not going their way, due to the inherent risk aversion of the hisec denizen
3. Podding is rare outside of crashes, connection issues or very lucky shots due to the lack of bubbles
4. The lack of capitals means that neither side has to truly commit, but their introduction would be useless as they'd hug the station anyway, due to the inherent risk aversion of the hisec denizen
5. There are no valuable assets that can be hit due to the near-immunity of hisec towers and immune NPC alts
6. Nothing happens outside of stations and gates that provide either side a means of escape, due to the inherent risk aversion of the hisec denizen
7. The lack of bombs and bubbles removes significant, meaningful depth from empire "PvP" rendering it nothing but ~honour~ battles for the sake of ~gudfites~ entirely distant from the "dog-eat-dog" nature of the game outside of empire
8. The idea of pubbies zooming by entirely distant to the fact that a fight is going down right next to them is just silly
9. Empire aggression mechanics are broken
10. NPC corps

This post is bad.

I feel genuinely bad for the people who believe this.

Those are ships firing on NPCs. If you repair a ship firing on another player you should receive the same minute long dock/jump penalty they do. This would also count for 0.0 space. Currently if hostiles are attacking us in VFK, for example, nothing stops our logistics from immediately docking the moment they take fire.

Also Logistics, or any other aiding ship, currently do get a GCC if they repair a ship that's engaged in hostilities. If you repair a war target you can be fired on by their enemies. If you repair someone that is attacking a particular group you become attackable by that group. The issue is that you can instantly dock without repercussion. I believe most Incursion running gangs will make a stink if someone with a wardec joins the fleet don't they?

Clearly the reason that high sec pvp is the best is because of the screams, whines and general gnashing of teeth it produces both in game and on the forums.

The OPs list is why I do not consider Eve to be a Sandbox game. Richard's list has more to do with player tactics, and not the game itself.

Either way, both sides should realize the pvp system needs work.

the OP probably has a good point
because the only experience i have with nullsec warfare and blobs is the following
Waiting for hours for the fleet to form up all the while getting insulted by a 18 FC because he doesn't like your ship name and who uses 3 F words between each word , desperately trying to proof his epeen because he never got laid and never will be unless he pays for it , and ending this pretty exciting adventure with a black screen ( granted this was before TiDi, but still)

ummm seriously if i had to choose between that or highsec/low sec warfare i take the second one





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When you graduate to middle school, try again. Maybe you'll have a thicker skin by then.

Because humping an undock point is hilariously fun.