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how can i fit my ship better

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Yuri Nimirov
K-Effective
#1 - 2012-07-21 23:13:59 UTC
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14085416

lost pod.

how can fit ship for more defensive?

it dumb die fast with repair on ship

Abon
Pandorum Research Incorporated
#2 - 2012-07-22 01:03:34 UTC
nothing to see here..move along! Bear
Zyella Stormborn
Green Seekers
#3 - 2012-07-22 01:10:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Zyella Stormborn
Yuri Nimirov wrote:
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14085416

lost pod.

how can fit ship for more defensive?

it dumb die fast with repair on ship




*Change your rigs to + armor instead of cargo opts.
*Get Damage Control II in place of Expanded Cargo Hold.
*Fit an armor plate or EANM in place of armor repper. (I don't do this one, but it does give you a bit more buffer)
*You can also try fitting an invuln shield, or a shield extender in mid if your cpu can handle it for a little extra padding.

I honestly don't think you can tank a retriever enough to avoid a gank, especially in .6 (they can get too many shots off before concord arrives). However, even with low skill, they are one of the faster indies to jump to warp with.


Advice for tactics while mining.

*Always keep aligned to station.
*Never mine within 30k of warp 0.
*Always keep up player ships on screen (or a second just for it if needed)
*The MOMENT any ship you do not recognize, or any destroyer at all pops, spam warp.
*Since you are in .6, set your Dscan to about 1/2 range and keep it updated. This is much more annoying but if you do it when you know pple are in system, you can almost never be jumped. You can be warping out while they are still coming out of warp.
*Anyone that you KNOW is a ganker, or hostile, bring up their char info and set them to -10 status with you. Every time they show up in zone it will have a nice shiny red for you to watch for.


Hope this helps! ;)

There is a special Hell for people like that, Right next to child molestors, and people that talk in the theater. ~Firefly

Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-07-22 02:18:58 UTC
Go mine in +10
Train for Hulk and fit it properly
Don't mine
Mine in an Orca
Mine in a BS
Pay Merc's to protect you while you mine.......
Go do something else

Or what the above poster said
Yuri Nimirov
K-Effective
#5 - 2012-07-22 02:53:27 UTC
Zyella Stormborn wrote:
Yuri Nimirov wrote:
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14085416

lost pod.

how can fit ship for more defensive?

it dumb die fast with repair on ship




*Change your rigs to + armor instead of cargo opts.
*Get Damage Control II in place of Expanded Cargo Hold.
*Fit an armor plate or EANM in place of armor repper. (I don't do this one, but it does give you a bit more buffer)
*You can also try fitting an invuln shield, or a shield extender in mid if your cpu can handle it for a little extra padding.

I honestly don't think you can tank a retriever enough to avoid a gank, especially in .6 (they can get too many shots off before concord arrives). However, even with low skill, they are one of the faster indies to jump to warp with.


Advice for tactics while mining.

*Always keep aligned to station.
*Never mine within 30k of warp 0.
*Always keep up player ships on screen (or a second just for it if needed)
*The MOMENT any ship you do not recognize, or any destroyer at all pops, spam warp.
*Since you are in .6, set your Dscan to about 1/2 range and keep it updated. This is much more annoying but if you do it when you know pple are in system, you can almost never be jumped. You can be warping out while they are still coming out of warp.
*Anyone that you KNOW is a ganker, or hostile, bring up their char info and set them to -10 status with you. Every time they show up in zone it will have a nice shiny red for you to watch for.


Hope this helps! ;)


thanks to you very much it is appreciate. i try again in another space. i understand not why player attack retriever.
Yuri Nimirov
K-Effective
#6 - 2012-07-22 02:54:19 UTC
Abon wrote:
nothing to see here..move along! Bear


you are very bad human species
Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-07-22 03:21:39 UTC
Yuri Nimirov wrote:
Abon wrote:
nothing to see here..move along! Bear


you are very bad human species


You have a very bad translator...
Hurtado Soneka
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-07-22 03:46:17 UTC
Yuri Nimirov wrote:
Abon wrote:
nothing to see here..move along! Bear


you are very bad human species


haha god bless this guy
Pipa Porto
#9 - 2012-07-22 04:56:05 UTC
Yuri Nimirov wrote:
Zyella Stormborn wrote:
Yuri Nimirov wrote:
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14085416

lost pod.

how can fit ship for more defensive?

it dumb die fast with repair on ship




*Change your rigs to + armor instead of cargo opts.
*Get Damage Control II in place of Expanded Cargo Hold.
*Fit an armor plate or EANM in place of armor repper. (I don't do this one, but it does give you a bit more buffer)
*You can also try fitting an invuln shield, or a shield extender in mid if your cpu can handle it for a little extra padding.

I honestly don't think you can tank a retriever enough to avoid a gank, especially in .6 (they can get too many shots off before concord arrives). However, even with low skill, they are one of the faster indies to jump to warp with.


Advice for tactics while mining.

*Always keep aligned to station.
*Never mine within 30k of warp 0.
*Always keep up player ships on screen (or a second just for it if needed)
*The MOMENT any ship you do not recognize, or any destroyer at all pops, spam warp.
*Since you are in .6, set your Dscan to about 1/2 range and keep it updated. This is much more annoying but if you do it when you know pple are in system, you can almost never be jumped. You can be warping out while they are still coming out of warp.
*Anyone that you KNOW is a ganker, or hostile, bring up their char info and set them to -10 status with you. Every time they show up in zone it will have a nice shiny red for you to watch for.


Hope this helps! ;)


thanks to you very much it is appreciate. i try again in another space. i understand not why player attack retriever.


Why did Hillary climb Everest? Because it's there.

With a retriever, you're really going to want to mine aligned, as there's not a lot of ways you can tank it. If you're going to tank it (bad plan, but v0v), do the above and mine in a 1.0 sec system to minimize the amount of time your neighborhood ganker has to kill you. Or, accept the loss and try to avoid losing your pod next time, as you probably mined enough to pay back the cost of the retriever before it died.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto

W0lf Crendraven
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#10 - 2012-07-22 07:26:56 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Dosnix
Pipa Porto wrote:



Why did Hillary climb Everest? Because it's there.
.


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ISD Dosnix
Pipa Porto
#11 - 2012-07-22 07:40:58 UTC
W0lf Crendraven wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:



Why did Hillary climb Everest? Because it's there.
.


Why did ****** (tried to) kill all the jews? Cause they were there!

Edit: apparantly good ol` adolf is beeing censored...


Always has been. And, really? There are certain people here from whom I kind of expect invocations of Godwin. I thought the Tuskers were better than that.

Ganking and the Holocaust are not remotely comparable.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto

W0lf Crendraven
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#12 - 2012-07-22 07:47:31 UTC
Im not saying that its comparable, im saying that the answer that he was ganked beacsue he was there isnt a very good one!
Pipa Porto
#13 - 2012-07-22 07:53:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Pipa Porto
W0lf Crendraven wrote:
Im not saying that its comparable, im saying that the answer that he was ganked beacsue he was there isnt a very good one!


It's a famous quote. Hillary got tired of new ways of explaining to the press why he climbed Everest so he shot that one off.

I'm tired of explaining exactly why people gank miners (cause it's easy, watching stuff explode is fun, cause it's profitable, etc.), and "because they're there" seems like a good enough way to boil all those reasons down.

The Holocaust had many underlying causes. "Because they were there" is not an adequate way to boil down any of them, and suggesting that it's comparable (by making the comparison) to intended and legal gameplay in a video game is offensive. Seriously, next time you think "Hey, I'm gonna make a funny and [call someone whatever]/[compare something to the Holocaust]", Don't.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto

W0lf Crendraven
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#14 - 2012-07-22 07:59:54 UTC
And im saying that it a very dumb move to tell new miners that apperantly dont know how to stay alive its casue you were there beacause you got tired of doing this, either say nothing or contribute!
Pipa Porto
#15 - 2012-07-22 08:08:32 UTC
W0lf Crendraven wrote:
And im saying that it a very dumb move to tell new miners that apperantly dont know how to stay alive its casue you were there beacause you got tired of doing this, either say nothing or contribute!


I'm gonna save you the trouble of scrolling up and point something out to you that you might have missed when you decided to pounce on my first line (only to draw the Ire of the great ISDs).


Pipa Porto wrote:
With a retriever, you're really going to want to mine aligned, as there's not a lot of ways you can tank it. If you're going to tank it (bad plan, but v0v), do the above and mine in a 1.0 sec system to minimize the amount of time your neighborhood ganker has to kill you. Or, accept the loss and try to avoid losing your pod next time, as you probably mined enough to pay back the cost of the retriever before it died.


This is telling them how to stay alive, which is contributing. How is making a Holocaust crack contributing? Doctor, Heal Thineself.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto

Yuri Nimirov
K-Effective
#16 - 2012-07-22 10:32:50 UTC
For save isk for buy new mining ship I must doing security level 3. I have caracal still. Is possible for level 3 security with caracal? Can help with fit? Battle cruiser not option with no isk enough but caracal I have one. I read heavy missile but it being hard to fit. I try past for light missile but no I can not kill some npc ship in mission.

Very thank you again.

He ruin game

Apologize for poor English my son help me make forum reply in future I have no translate for help this time.
Abon
Pandorum Research Incorporated
#17 - 2012-07-22 10:53:33 UTC
Yuri Nimirov wrote:


He ruin game



Pirate

Well i certainly don`t want to ruin someones game right?! Big smile

And since this fit reeks of noob as much as your asteroid orbiting i will be a nice lad and contract you a new retriever in Jita after downtime! Maybe i will even toss in a nice set of +3s to speed up your training as your pod was empty with the exception of a few teeth! See it as a learning lesson.

Besides the imagination of doing lvl3s in a Caracal just gives me Nightmares...someone has to stop this madness! Ugh
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#18 - 2012-07-22 13:05:46 UTC
you can not really tank mining ship enough to avoid player kills.

CCP is bringing some changes for mining ships and after that it is possible to tank better with some mining ships.
Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#19 - 2012-07-22 14:34:24 UTC
Yuri Nimirov wrote:
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14085416

lost pod.

how can fit ship for more defensive?

it dumb die fast with repair on ship


2/10

If not troll, biomass...

...

Pipa Porto
#20 - 2012-07-22 19:08:07 UTC
Bad Messenger wrote:
you can not really tank mining ship enough to avoid player kills.

CCP is bringing some changes for mining ships and after that it is possible to tank better with some mining ships.


You can tank a Hulk to make it unprofitable to gank it.

The rest can be flown aligned (in a group with webs, it's even easier).

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto

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