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Shield/armor compensation and passive hardeners

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Tenebrae Delucescere
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2011-10-10 23:08:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Tenebrae Delucescere
I feel certain that this question has been asked before, but I couldn't find it in a forum search or on Evelopedia, so I figured I would ask here. =)

The compensation skills say they add 5% per level to their specific tank and type. Is that a direct addition? Like, if I have a passive EM hardner that gives 37.5% out of the box, will training to rank 5 Compensation make it 62.5%? Or rather is it multiplicative, making it (weak math-fu) ~44.5%? I'm assuming it would be multiplicative, but would love to be surprised.

Also in regard to passive hardners, is the stacking penalty the same as it is for active hardeners?

Just for some context, my goal over the next couple months is to get into an Abaddon, and I know they have issues with capacitor usage. With active hardeners giving 50% resistance, it seems to my newbie mind that I could get close to the same out of passive hardeners with skills, and free up more capacitor for pretty lazers. I also feel like I can't be the first person to think of that, and must be missing something. If someone could fill in the pieces I'm missing, I would appreciate it!

Edit: D'oh, must always specify. This would be for Lvl 4 missions, purely PvE. XD
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#2 - 2011-10-11 04:36:29 UTC
Good idea on saving cap fro your abby =D

the bonus is kinda a mix of both the bonus between skill levels is additive and the full bonus is multiplicative onto the things it applies to

so at level 5 its 25% bonus and that applied to 37.5% is now 46.875%

so you were pretty close

T2 active hardeners give 55% bonus though so try looking into faction or deadspace energized membranes to meet on par

(C-types with compensations at 5 gives you 56.375%)

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malaire
#3 - 2011-10-11 09:52:29 UTC
Tenebrae Delucescere wrote:
Also in regard to passive hardners, is the stacking penalty the same as it is for active hardeners?

Stacking penalty works same for all modules/rigs which are penalized.

For hardeners, each damage-type is calculated separately. The module/rig which gives best bonus for that damage-type is not penalized, 2nd best module/rig only gives 86.9% of its bonus, 3rd best gives 57.1% of its bonus, 4th gives 28.2%.

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Tenebrae Delucescere
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2011-10-11 12:44:31 UTC
Thanks for the info! I'll have to toy around with some Abby fittings, and see what I can get out of skilled up energized membranes. I'm sure that C-type membranes will be pretty pricey. While I'm sure I would make it back in missions, coming up with the initial investment might be tough. Overall, I'm hoping that some decent faction/deadspace membranes combined with the Abaddon's natural resistance bonus will get me to enough resists to stay alive and keep the fireworks show going full time.