EVE General Discussion

Uh-huh.

D-scan is a game mechanic. Bookmarks a game mechanic. Everybody's favorite insta-intel tool is a mechanic. Being able to warp 500km from an undock point is a mechanic.

Orbiting at optimal range is a tactic and the tutorials teach that. Left-clicking in space to go in a certain direction is a tactic and the tutorials teach that, too, albeit they don't make things like transversal and angle as clear as they should be.

Anyone can figure out how to make money and navigate in this game without tutorials/free ships, it's the pvp aspect that's hard to learn unless another player shows/tells you how to do it.

because real noobs are really noobish..

It's interesting you would make a thread with this heading considering EVE being known to having the steepest learning curve of all MMOs out there.

I don't know how much you play with your alt, but I am still in my starter corp and I keep hearing from newbies in the corp chat all the time that this game is overwhelming and hard.

The problem is that you probably have years of experience and thus - thanks to Long-term potentiation - you do a lot of things merely utilizing your spinal chord whilst a noob struggles to find it in eve's clunky interface.


I did a few tutorial missions when I started my most recent account, and of course they were extremely easy, so I quit after a few since the rewards weren't worth it even for a poor player such as me.

It gives really new players a little kickstart - that's all.

I can understand the OP however - regardless of todays games constantly aiming at tickling peoples nucleus accumbens and force-feeding them victory, some people need a challenge to actually get satisfaction - I guess todays gamers are however spoiled brats in that regard.

Recently got fallout new vegas ultimate on steam - started on hardcore mode, quit because it was boringly easy - downloaded jsawyers mod started on very hard and suddenly, it's fun. Day Z has great gameplay too.

I can undestand CCP making the game easier and easier for noobs in order to retain new subscribers, but I just hope they keep it more 'hardcore' oriented instead of selling out to todays whiny-instant gratification players.

Eve (amongst other things) is a refuge-MMO for old gamers like me (playing computer games for over 30 years) who still like the possibility to lose - would be a shame if it would lose that unique aspect.

Liked just for that.

To OP, it's all knowledge like others have said. When I started my first trial account, I was lost and didn't know what to do. Once starting this account (a few trials and months later), I found it to be too vague information wise and found most information the tutorials give common sense.

This. I remember when I first did the tutorial, I had the constant look of confusion on my face. I invited my friend to join EVE as well, and he is confused as well. It's only easy because you know exactly what you are doing.

Karkaroph is not sure he understands the question.

In nine years he never made it past the second tutorial.




Your obvious skill defeats him.
He bows.

heh a while back I started a new character and wanted to check out the NPE and tbh I thought it was rather easy. tbh it deserved to be a bit easier than when I went through it the first time (although I suppose a friend gave me 500k to grease the wheels a wee bit) then again I suppose I did figure out how to run the blockade in a bantam so I must not have sucked that much!