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Tagmail Whorin
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-07-21 05:45:17 UTC
Someone told me that if your WH is in for example region 10 and you had an alt in all other WH's of the same class in region 10 you could initiate warps to the sites to force them to despawn if not used and respawn in another WH of that class in the same region.

Confirm/deny?
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#2 - 2012-07-21 06:01:44 UTC
Tagmail Whorin wrote:
Someone told me that if your WH is in for example region 10 and you had an alt in all other WH's of the same class in region 10 you could initiate warps to the sites to force them to despawn if not used and respawn in another WH of that class in the same region.

Confirm/deny?


Once you have run a site in a certain class, it can show up again in any other hole of the same class, regardless of region. Constellations and regions in wormhole space do not work the same way as k-space. Hope that helps.

ISD Dorrim Barstorlode

Senior Lead

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Interstellar Services Department
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-07-21 10:49:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Miton
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:
Tagmail Whorin wrote:
Someone told me that if your WH is in for example region 10 and you had an alt in all other WH's of the same class in region 10 you could initiate warps to the sites to force them to despawn if not used and respawn in another WH of that class in the same region.

Confirm/deny?


Once you have run a site in a certain class, it can show up again in any other hole of the same class, regardless of region. Constellations and regions in wormhole space do not work the same way as k-space. Hope that helps.


^most WH people will disagree with this, just saying.
it's neither confirmed nor refuted by CCP and ive never seen sufficient testing done on it to say either way and frankly, who cares.

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Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#4 - 2012-07-21 14:23:54 UTC
Short of a Dev confirming it I don't think anyone knows for certain.

I had a go at monitoring it for awhile but its a colossal task and got very varied results. Theme seemed to be:

Anoms bounce region (but I can't discount them bouncing all of the same class)
Ladar/Grav and Profs seem to bounce constellation.

There definitely seems to be a correlation between the ladar sites in our WH and ladar sites in the other WHs in the same constellation (a much easier one to monitor).
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-07-21 22:47:40 UTC
Rroff wrote:
Anoms bounce region (but I can't discount them bouncing all of the same class)


considering anoms are class specific they obviously stay to the same class.
considering how many systems are in each region, youre never going to get any good results on that front so really the only relevant attribute is constellation.

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Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-07-21 22:54:29 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
Rroff wrote:
Anoms bounce region (but I can't discount them bouncing all of the same class)


considering anoms are class specific they obviously stay to the same class.


Well, the big question with this (which I don't know if anyone knows the answer) is whether site respawns are that specific or also random.

IE. Does running a Frontier Barracks cause another Frontier Barracks somewhere else. Or does it just spawn another random anom somewhere else. If it is random, it could be that a C3 site could spawn a random anom in any system within the constellation and hence could, in theory spawn a new C1 anom somewhere else.
Tarunik Raqalth'Qui
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-07-22 00:02:43 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Jack Miton wrote:
Rroff wrote:
Anoms bounce region (but I can't discount them bouncing all of the same class)


considering anoms are class specific they obviously stay to the same class.


Well, the big question with this (which I don't know if anyone knows the answer) is whether site respawns are that specific or also random.

IE. Does running a Frontier Barracks cause another Frontier Barracks somewhere else. Or does it just spawn another random anom somewhere else. If it is random, it could be that a C3 site could spawn a random anom in any system within the constellation and hence could, in theory spawn a new C1 anom somewhere else.


There are no mixed-class constellations (or regions for that matter).
Svodola Darkfury
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-07-22 18:31:19 UTC
Tarunik Raqalth'Qui wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Jack Miton wrote:
Rroff wrote:
Anoms bounce region (but I can't discount them bouncing all of the same class)


considering anoms are class specific they obviously stay to the same class.


Well, the big question with this (which I don't know if anyone knows the answer) is whether site respawns are that specific or also random.

IE. Does running a Frontier Barracks cause another Frontier Barracks somewhere else. Or does it just spawn another random anom somewhere else. If it is random, it could be that a C3 site could spawn a random anom in any system within the constellation and hence could, in theory spawn a new C1 anom somewhere else.


There are no mixed-class constellations (or regions for that matter).


Correct. The op of this block quote was saying region or all regions containing that class, not that there were mixed regions or that it bounced out of class.

Director of Frozen Corpse Industries.
Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#9 - 2012-07-25 00:59:17 UTC
This is an issue that always leads to debate ... including some well thought through opinions and some dross / trolls. The reason it always causes debate is because it has not been 'proven' one way or another. I've read claims that it has been proven, but never anything that actually proves the issue.

Having said that there are large experienced w-space groups that have gone to a lot of effort to inhabit all the systems in their constellation, believing that this allows them to despawn sites in the other systems and thereby 'direct' them towards their main home system(s).

It doesn't make a lot of difference to my w-space ops but I am happy to believe that despawned sites respawn elsewhere in your constellation, with the actual 'where' depending on a cyber dice roll. I have no need to 'defend' that stance, but it seems to make sense to me and fits with my own limited direct observations.

I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. I build and sell many things, including large collections of bookmarks.
Callduron
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#10 - 2012-07-25 05:54:22 UTC
I live in a constellation which I believe is uninhabited and it seems that once a sig site is cleared it generally doesn't get replaced.

I get new anoms every few day or two.

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Svodola Darkfury
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-07-25 08:03:39 UTC
Callduron wrote:
I live in a constellation which I believe is uninhabited and it seems that once a sig site is cleared it generally doesn't get replaced.

I get new anoms every few day or two.



I've noticed similarly that if there aren't many kills in my constellation or region we don't see many respawns. However, the other day we had 8 anomalies pop up in 2 hours, I checked the constellation and it had quite a few kills, so did the region (several systems in the 100s of npcs killed).

It's at least plausible.

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joes Bazooka
Doomheim
#12 - 2012-07-25 09:04:57 UTC
Svodola Darkfury wrote:
Callduron wrote:
I live in a constellation which I believe is uninhabited and it seems that once a sig site is cleared it generally doesn't get replaced.

I get new anoms every few day or two.



I've noticed similarly that if there aren't many kills in my constellation or region we don't see many respawns. However, the other day we had 8 anomalies pop up in 2 hours, I checked the constellation and it had quite a few kills, so did the region (several systems in the 100s of npcs killed).

It's at least plausible.



Where do you look this up? Dotlan is just a one line squashed mess.