EVE General Discussion

Personally, in my case, it's a matter of training. I wish to train up more combat skills before I jump into low/null sec. And secondly, a matter of training for my corporation. We have quite a few new members and we're bringing them up to speed. But training does take time.

So in the meantime, we mine ore and ice in high sec, work the PI angle as well and basically shoot the bull in corp chat. We'll move to lowsec when we're damn good and ready and not a moment before nor at the behest of folks who think we should do it right friggin' now.

And to be honest, I don't give a rat's rear end about Dust. I don't play console games, I've always thought PC's offered superior control. And I definitely don't like associating with foul mouthed 12 year-olds, which is another reason I'm not a console gamer. If Dust fails, I honestly could care less, so long as Eve continues to function.

One of our corp officers has a frigate (forget the type) with four warp core stabilizers installed and a cloak. He calls it his BPO runner. :)

and here i was playing the game the way i wanted to - how stupid of me. then, pray tell, why was high sec even created? please step down from your throne before you answer.

Me too, not facts, not substantiated by any evidence, just opinions pure and simple.

I agree with your opinion as well.

Just so happens more agree with mine

who cares about the choice of ore. you mine what gives the most isk/hr, sell what you don't need and buy what you do need. mining the minerals you need is stupid, mine for isk/hr always. and with scordite being the 3rd most lucrative ore in the game high sec mining ain't so bad, especially when you consider mercoxit is one of the ores ranked above scordite.

low sec just doesn't offer any additional isk/hour and simply puts you in harms way. that's the real issue. more risk, more logistics problems and for what? the exact same isk/hour as high sec. you're giving up concord and easy access to market hubs for 0 gain.

nullsec mining dosn't mean you *have* to give up 20m bounty ticks; if you can't make 20m bounty ticks you're not giving them up.
what refinery losses? even at a 40% station i get lossless refinery. factor in losing a hauler? are you bad at eve? if your blockade runner gets caught then you're an absolute mong for not reading intel channels and jumping in to red systems. when i was in nullsec it was costing me exactly 3.75k isk/unit of mineral i shipped to jita. 3.75 isk on minerals ranging from 900 isk-7k isk... broker fees and taxes were costing me more than the logistics of moving it to high sec.
also in null sec you're more likely to have access to fleet bonuses which means A) you get bonuses, or B) the char you use to give yourself bonuses can be mining making you more isk.
another note to add is grav sites are so much safer; if some one wants to get the drop on you then they have to scan you down, by which time you can be in warp to the safe pos/station/safe spot/whatever.

if you want to mine there's no doubt that null is the place to be, with high sec really not being that far behind. low sec however is just poor due to the fact that low sec ores yield less isk/hour than high sec ores and you have the innate risks of being in low sec.

See that's my problem right there. Nullsec quickly turns into another job.. I don't play a game because I want another job..

fixed that for you

No suicide ganking there?

100% of the rest of your post is 100% dumb as a doorstop, but I agree with this. Security status penalties put off newer players from getting into. PvP, since they don't know how to operate in 0.0 and often can't risk having their source of income, usually in highsec, cut off.

That said, there should still be a way to go -10.0 for the flashyred-showy aspect of it. Podding would be a good way to do this.