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Grizzwald
Dusk till Dusk
#1 - 2011-10-09 13:54:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Grizzwald
Hi.

I'm just writing this thread to say how disappointing it is that no-one seems to honor 1v1's. I've challenged and have been challenged many times but very rarely, if the opposing party is at risk of losing have they been honoured. I for one will no longer accept any 1v1 offer made because of this constant lack of honor and deception.

I know there are many out there who are brave enough and headstrong enough to go through with their challenge even to the bitter end but I will never get the chance to fight them because of all the lamers.

So basically just wanted to say thx to all the cowards out there who are either too afraid of losing or just plain terrible and unable to get kills by using skill and knowledge as opposed to cheap tactics and for their disregard of what I thought was a pvp'ers unwritten code. But then maybe that's just Eve.

But anyway, it's so long 1v1's!, for me...

Grizz.
Feligast
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2011-10-09 14:13:00 UTC
okay.
Sinnek
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2011-10-09 14:50:24 UTC
Guess it depends on where you are or what you fly.
I just came back after about a year of playing tanks, and I find there's about as many pilots flying around in the minnie/amarr FW zone in frigs and nano boats happily taking on a 1v1 that looks like a good fight, as there ever was.
But if you go around actually asking for one, i suppose you'd get set up a lot.
I just find someone who looks like they're out on the same errand as me (solo brawling), do a little dance to see who will aggress where, overheat all and go for it.


Fly fun o7

awesome spaceship image
Elise Randolph
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#4 - 2011-10-09 14:52:47 UTC
Grizzwald wrote:
Hi.

I'm just writing this thread to say how disappointing it is that no-one seems to honor 1v1's. I've challenged and have been challenged many times but very rarely, if the opposing party is at risk of losing have they been honoured. I for one will no longer accept any 1v1 offer made because of this constant lack of honor and deception.

I know there are many out there who are brave enough and headstrong enough to go through with their challenge even to the bitter end but I will never get the chance to fight them because of all the lamers.

So basically just wanted to say thx to all the cowards out there who are either too afraid of losing or just plain terrible and unable to get kills by using skill and knowledge as opposed to cheap tactics and for their disregard of what I thought was a pvp'ers unwritten code. But then maybe that's just Eve.

But anyway, it's so long 1v1's!, for me...

Grizz.


Sounds to me like you're a coward.

~
Grizzwald
Dusk till Dusk
#5 - 2011-10-09 16:04:44 UTC
Elise Randolph wrote:
Grizzwald wrote:
Hi.

I'm just writing this thread to say how disappointing it is that no-one seems to honor 1v1's. I've challenged and have been challenged many times but very rarely, if the opposing party is at risk of losing have they been honoured. I for one will no longer accept any 1v1 offer made because of this constant lack of honor and deception.

I know there are many out there who are brave enough and headstrong enough to go through with their challenge even to the bitter end but I will never get the chance to fight them because of all the lamers.

So basically just wanted to say thx to all the cowards out there who are either too afraid of losing or just plain terrible and unable to get kills by using skill and knowledge as opposed to cheap tactics and for their disregard of what I thought was a pvp'ers unwritten code. But then maybe that's just Eve.

But anyway, it's so long 1v1's!, for me...

Grizz.


Sounds to me like you're a coward.


You're wrong. Just tired of getting warped to a pos when u offer to join a fleet and fight at a safe. Scared of 1v1'ing? No way. Scared of getting jumped? Not really just getting tired of the same stupid scams being pulled over and over. I will still fight 1v1 anytime I can, just won't by arrangement becoz they're never honored. I could list names but I'm not that low.

Grizz.
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#6 - 2011-10-09 16:47:57 UTC
Hello Grizzwald:

I used to do quite a lot of duels in Empire and lowsec. If you check my killboard data from a few years ago, you will find a lot of cruiser and frigate battles in Amarr, Youl, and the faction warfare zone of Devoid & The Bleak Lands. I speak from experience when I say that there are plenty of people out there who will honour duels. I also speak from experience when I say that there are plenty of people out there who just want to pad their killboard with another easy win. Just accept the fact that you take risk whenever you trust someone. This is true of real life as well as in EVE.

Specific to EVE you really ought to consider that if you're abandoning something that you prefer to do (honourable 1v1 space combat) because of the actions of others, then you are letting those faceless others ruin your game and dictate to you how you play it. I would humbly suggest that you adopt a different perspective. Rather than assuming that a duel will be honoured and then becoming upset when it is not, go into each duel with the understanding that there's a good chance it will not be honoured and then be pleasantly surprised if it is. Your angst-filled words on the forums will not change things for the better, either in your life or in your game play; but, a conscious choice by you to accept responsibility for your actions and choices can lead to you having a more realistic and positive outlook on the same data.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn
Tamiya Sarossa
Resistance is Character Forming
#7 - 2011-10-09 17:52:20 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Rather than assuming that a duel will be honoured and then becoming upset when it is not, go into each duel with the understanding that there's a good chance it will not be honoured and then be pleasantly surprised if it is. Your angst-filled words on the forums will not change things for the better, either in your life or in your game play; but, a conscious choice by you to accept responsibility for your actions and choices can lead to you having a more realistic and positive outlook on the same data.


Amen. There are few things in EVE as satisfying as turning the tables on a dishonoured 1v1, so see each one as an opportunity for a goodfite if honored, or a chance to get some extra kills if it's not. If you aren't packing backup to deal with the inevitable dis~honour~, than do your best to ensure you can disengage. Often those intending to dishonor 1v1's will call in backup early or otherwise signal their intentions while you still have time to GTFO.

And always use common sense- if they're eager to 1v1 in lowsec or null, insist on a fleet with the two of you in separate squads in *your* safe. If they aren't willing to agree to this, there's usually dishonor intended, and if you see them dropping fleet you at least have some warning.
Mara Abraham
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2011-10-09 18:18:03 UTC
Good day, Grizzwald:

Unless someone knows you, they don't know if you will be the one dishonoring a 1v1.

Personally, I follow and respect The Tusker Code where we don't accept 1v1's or offer them. That does not mean we don't solo, but we would rather find or be found for the fight.

That stated, getting solo fights depends a lot on what you are flying.

Last night I was in an Incursus, and a Dramiel pilot was complaining that Tuskers don't solo because I would not engage.

Thank you.

--- Mara Abraham

  • http://www.factionalwarfare.info/
  • http://evepiratelife.com/
Mystical Might
Eclipse Pulsar
Fraternity.
#9 - 2011-10-09 18:37:31 UTC
I honour 1vs1's.

Come find me some time if you want one ;P
Mara Abraham
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2011-10-09 19:03:40 UTC
Good day:

Just a confirmation that if you specifically ask (extremely key) Mystical Might for a 1v1 and he specifically answers (also key) directly, he will honor 1v1's.

The main reason for stating "specifically" is that Mystical Might does have friends he flies with on a very regular basis; and often times, those friends may need reminding not to join in.

Mystical Might is en extremely solid pilot, so do expect an extremely good fight from him; and if your skills (not talking skill points, but more piloting skills) are below average, it will be an extremely quick death.

Mystical Might typically flies in the Amarr and Minmatar low security space area if you want to find him. It is common to see him in a super pimped Cynabal or a super pimped Tengu; though occasionally, he flies a pimped Imperial Navy Slicer or Dramiel.

Thank you.

--- Mara Abraham

  • http://www.factionalwarfare.info/
  • http://evepiratelife.com/
Mystical Might
Eclipse Pulsar
Fraternity.
#11 - 2011-10-09 19:25:44 UTC
Mara Abraham wrote:
Good day:

Just a confirmation that if you specifically ask (extremely key) Mystical Might for a 1v1 and he specifically answers (also key) directly, he will honor 1v1's.

The main reason for stating "specifically" is that Mystical Might does have friends he flies with on a very regular basis; and often times, those friends may need reminding not to join in.

Mystical Might is en extremely solid pilot, so do expect an extremely good fight from him; and if your skills (not talking skill points, but more piloting skills) are below average, it will be an extremely quick death.

Mystical Might typically flies in the Amarr and Minmatar low security space area if you want to find him. It is common to see him in a super pimped Cynabal or a super pimped Tengu; though occasionally, he flies a pimped Imperial Navy Slicer or Vengeance.

Thank you.



Fixed that for you, and thanks for confirming that I honour. ;P.
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#12 - 2011-10-09 20:24:05 UTC
Elise Randolph wrote:
Sounds to me like you're a coward.

Sounds to me like the OP doesn't have any friends.
YesI'mWatching
Cool4Cats
#13 - 2011-10-09 21:05:46 UTC  |  Edited by: YesI'mWatching
I don't often ask for 1 v 1 anymore, i get angry when it's dishonoured, I am in nulsec (delve currently).. even here where large fleets are fighting over sov i do still find pilots willing to take a chance on a solo encounter, I always assume it's bait and work on the idea that i might kill him before gang arrives.

I only fly frig hulls, the bigger the ship the less chance you have of finding the fights you want.

Don't give up though, just accept you won't always get the fight you wan't, you just might get a better one.
Mfume Apocal
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2011-10-10 00:10:50 UTC
in a game that advertised corp theft as a feature, you're surprised at the lack of honor? seriously?
Avernus Ravenwing
State War Academy
Caldari State
#15 - 2011-10-10 07:30:05 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Hello Grizzwald:

I used to do quite a lot of duels in Empire and lowsec. If you check my killboard data from a few years ago, you will find a lot of cruiser and frigate battles in Amarr, Youl, and the faction warfare zone of Devoid & The Bleak Lands. I speak from experience when I say that there are plenty of people out there who will honour duels. I also speak from experience when I say that there are plenty of people out there who just want to pad their killboard with another easy win. Just accept the fact that you take risk whenever you trust someone. This is true of real life as well as in EVE.

Specific to EVE you really ought to consider that if you're abandoning something that you prefer to do (honourable 1v1 space combat) because of the actions of others, then you are letting those faceless others ruin your game and dictate to you how you play it. I would humbly suggest that you adopt a different perspective. Rather than assuming that a duel will be honoured and then becoming upset when it is not, go into each duel with the understanding that there's a good chance it will not be honoured and then be pleasantly surprised if it is. Your angst-filled words on the forums will not change things for the better, either in your life or in your game play; but, a conscious choice by you to accept responsibility for your actions and choices can lead to you having a more realistic and positive outlook on the same data.


wow a goon who isnt hate trolling, i am pleasantly surprised. +1
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#16 - 2011-10-10 20:18:46 UTC
I too used to do allot of arranged 1v1s. I don't think a single one was ever dishonored. Although there have been times when people scanned us down and broke up the fight. Never really happened in my favor but I know the other side didn't do it intentionally.

Just make sure you know the rules. For example I always duel where it is acceptable to warp out if the other guy is "winning" but can't hold a point. I think that is typically how it is done, for good reason.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#17 - 2011-10-10 21:29:44 UTC

I 1v1 all the time... and have lots of fun doing it. Here's a couple pointers on how I find quality 1v1's:

1.) In my experience, while requesting a 1v1 will get you the occassional solo fight, most 1v1's just happen. In quick fights (frig vs frig), travelling to a location where the fight will be over before help can arrive is the best method! I like to pull fast tackle a full system or more ahead of their fleet... gank them on the outgoing gate, and then warp off to safety before help can land.

2.) 80% of eve will call for backup if they think they have a risk of losing. The easiest way to get someone to agree to a 1v1 is to attack them as an underdog. Bringing a cruiser to a frigate battle will net you no fights, bringing a frigate to a cruiser battle will get you significantly more fights.

3.) Agreeing to a 1v1 prior to a fight is the ONLY way to let your opponent know your not playing cat and mouse, but top dog. Note: Until a target agrees to the 1v1, its NOT a 1v1.

4.) About 25% of eve have no qualms breaking their word to get a killmail, so asking for a 1v1 opens you up to trickery. If you fly blingy or if you win alot, your much more likely you are to have your 1v1's violated.

5.) Fights in populated systems (especially hi-sec) are plagued with people using fleet bonuses and expensive implants to get a significant advantage. For "fair" fights, you should try to move the fight into an unpopulated system.

Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#18 - 2011-10-10 21:52:13 UTC
Quite often someone who's been spending the last half an hour in local spamming requests for 1v1s will go red to me even though I already told him that I'm not going to honor a 1v1.

I can't understand why they then get mad when a corpy in a faction battleship logs in and pops him while he's engaging me.

What part of "I'm busy padding my KB with noob kills, I'm not interested in honor duels, go away." don't people understand?
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2011-10-10 22:30:59 UTC
E-honour is silly

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Duke Thunderhorse
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#20 - 2011-10-11 05:54:45 UTC
I'm not big on arranging 1v1s. I prefer to just let them happen naturally. Of course that leaves the door open for engaging bait and becoming a victim of a ganking. It is very disappointing when what seems to be a 1v1 turns into something else. There is no doubt about that. When you embark on a career as a solo pilot I have found it does wonders to forget about KB stats and just enjoy each fight you get. If the fight turns into a blob then so be it. You can rest assured that you were the best pilot on grid. Re-ship and move on.

Any Black Rebel will give you a honored 1v1. Pirate
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