Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I will get alot of flak for these comments and trolling. I know this and expect it.

I believe that the roles of Wormholes to players and CCP is greatly looked down upon (most of you will be thinking 'well duh') when it shouldn't be.

Alot of you will be thinking that you make alot of money in wormholes and is no reason to change it. Well I say you are wrong. Yes you can make some money but that is the same anywhere in eve. You can make some money but in Wormholes like null there is alot of risk. In null you can see people that enter your system and hide in a station and or more likely pull in a huge fleet using the gate or a jump gate or even a cyno. Or you can use a jump clone to run away or bring in a super carrier or titan. Hell you own the system so again you can just stay in your station and laugh at the people while you work on orders to send to low or high sec.

In the wormhole you can do none of this.

If you 'find' another person either from them showing up and shooting you or seeing them on Dscan because the wormhole they entered was close or seeing their probes on dscan. When this happens the first thing you do regardless of what was happening is "Run back to the PoS". You could have a fleet of 30 people (which is a decent size for a wormhole) and still be mostly hiding in your PoS. Because when they cloak you cant find them. You cant even see who they are if they are cloaked. You basically have to quickly find their hole and find out who they are which can be a trap or do everything you can to close the hole asap. And worst of all is Anomalies spawn very very slowly as well as no rare drops or even rare spawns or bounties.

I am not wanting a major overhaul. Or even much power in wormholes. All I ask is for a semi sovereignty of sorts. At least a way to drop a "outpost" which is similar to a station but smaller. This would be very nice so people have a place to actually go! That is unless PoS's are actually turned into these things so we can dock into them and actually repackage things and access all the PoS items instead of going to each one or getting stuck in-between the modules when you warp in.

If you do the separate outpost thing then maybe a way to stabilize a wormhole temporarily lets say 24 hours using fuel maybe even fuel from a moon we can finally use. with a cooldown of 12 hours.

Example: You stabilize a WH leading into a null for the purpose of hauling things in or out or attacking. Because it is stabilized it now registers on anyone who turns on their scanner ie looking for anomalies. So they can warp to it and potentially attack you. you see this attack so you turn it off. Well you still have to wait a few hours till it actually goes down. So the enemy can bring in more ships even carriers.

The bright side to this I hope would be the ability to put up defenses and or allow us to build super carrier (NO TITANS) in wormholes! Really there is no real reason why we shouldn't be able to build them other then people crying that its to powerful. Well if you can temporarily stabilize a hole to allow a lot of ships in or out then it should even out.

This should also give the ability to then have some fun with DUST players when it goes active.

If nothing else please at the very very least allow us to use jump clones!! and or ice fields. Seriously this makes no sense at all! One because if you die in a wormhole you pop up in a station so why cant the reverse happen. Sorry to say but logic fails to make sense of this. Also ice fields exist everywhere in the universe its just how it works if anything make them very small. You can also make it random too. You might claim that this would make WH people self sufficient well I call BS because you could easily make it where its a "weak" ice or small ice fields where it might feed a PoS or two maybe three but spawns slowly or let it be equal but spawn slower (saying this hurts because WH spawns are so painfully slow) and allow us to have that as our "rare drop".

I know I will get alot of you yelling at me so, ok flame away.

Oh god please no.

As for outposts I reccomend you hold off till the POS overhaul and see what happens then.

Wormholes are currently one of the only balanced things in the game. They work. Why change it?

Considering how much of the rest of the game needs balancing and adding to I sincerely hope you're ignored (as it appears you are being).

If you're having problems with WHs head back to high sec until you've worked it out. I've been living in WHs for over a year now and they're the best thing in the game for small corps/alliances.

What's unbalanced about wormholes? Who is the unbalance biassed towards and how?

EDIT - If memory serves, the reason there's no ice in WHs is that they weren't originally meant to be permanent residences. Ice was intentionally left out so people would have to remain connected to K-space. As I said, I've been living in WHs and have had no problem with ICE but then I prepared by making more than 12 months of POS fuel before I moved in. I also nip out for a day or two to mine ice, make more fuel and head back in. I've never found it to be a problem. Yes, it's not right where I am but nothing in EvE is easy. Making POS fuel is one of the easier things and transporting it isn't a problem so I really don't see the need for it to be in WHs. I'd like it if it was but it's not traumatic that it isn't.

The reason you can't have sov is because WH's aren't "owned" space. There are none of the sov based things in WHs so no point in adding Sov as it would give you nothing. Also, I remember reading somewhere that CCP aren't intending to add sov to WHs although I can't find the reference.

There are no outposts purely because WHs are meant to be transitory exploration based areas and outposts don't conform to that paradigm.

As for nothing special about WHs, you're clearly doing it wrong. The fact that you can only make tech III cruisers out of materials garnered within WHs is special enough. Tech III ships are arguably the best ships in the game for a lot of things so saying you want something special from WHs and ignoring tech III materials is somewhat ludicrous.

If you're simply waiting for things to spawn in your WH you're doing it wrong. This is the precise reason why they're not supposed to be lived in (the fact they are lived in is because people like me have worked out how to do it rather than complaining on the forums that it can't be done). To actually live in a WH you shouldn't be aiming to farm your WH but the WHs that are temporarily connected to it. These rotate and can be forced to rotate so you can generally, with a bit of effort, get yourself one that has loads of anoms and sites.

As for jump clones, simply put.... no. There is a very good reason that jump clones aren't allowed. If they were allowed a resident corp could have one person active in a WH but jump clones and ships for all the rest of their corp. If their WH pos got attacked there would be no logistics necessary to immediately field a defence fleet. This completely removes one of the best parts of WHs from solo and small corps, namely that the playing field in WHs is much more even for solo and small corps. For massive corps/alliances there is a logistical nightmare for them to field serious fleets into a WH. WHat you're asking is to remove that.

As I previously said, WHs are well balanced. They're currently the end game exploration and small corp content. Your requested changes would unbalance this.

more loot.