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Many dead in shooting at Batman premier in Denver...
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rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#41 - 2012-07-21 02:35:59 UTC
^ The are ending the series with this one.

Though I imagine over the years, they might form a new team to make new batman movies.

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Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#42 - 2012-07-21 02:41:11 UTC
Would you like assault rifle or explosive charges for your change sir?

Meh give me both...

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Because >>I is too hard
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#43 - 2012-07-21 02:41:21 UTC
Oh dear Cinemark had a no guns allowed policy


So tell me, imagine if no weapons were allowed in high sec, such that you could not enter through a get or undock with weapons and perhaps even armor, but any ship in an Orca hull or coming in via WH could, and there was no "instant police"...


Yeah, that's what a gun free zone is like.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
#44 - 2012-07-21 03:18:33 UTC
The numbers vary between news sites. From the OP's link: "police say 70 people were wounded".

With my respect to the dead....

The .223 round really sucks that much? No wonder we are still stuck in the middle east. We are under-gunned. Any ex-military here could shed some light as per why so many survived?

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Pulgy
Doomheim
#45 - 2012-07-21 03:33:27 UTC
Shameless Avenger wrote:

The .223 round really sucks that much? No wonder we are still stuck in the middle east. We are under-gunned. Any ex-military here could shed some light as per why so many survived?


really?
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Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
#46 - 2012-07-21 03:44:01 UTC
Pulgy wrote:
Shameless Avenger wrote:

The .223 round really sucks that much? No wonder we are still stuck in the middle east. We are under-gunned. Any ex-military here could shed some light as per why so many survived?


really?


It seems most of the fatalities were from the .40 handgun and the shotgun. If that's the case, restrictions on assault rifles are meaningless and William Hughes had it all wrong.

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Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#47 - 2012-07-21 04:12:06 UTC
Shameless Avenger wrote:
Pulgy wrote:
Shameless Avenger wrote:

The .223 round really sucks that much? No wonder we are still stuck in the middle east. We are under-gunned. Any ex-military here could shed some light as per why so many survived?


really?


It seems most of the fatalities were from the .40 handgun and the shotgun. If that's the case, restrictions on assault rifles are meaningless and William Hughes had it all wrong.


Getting mostly wounded is the norm with personal firearms. Wounding isn't all bad though, since the level of wounding takes the guy out of combat duty, treating wounded ties up valuable resources on the other side and takes even more people off the front line(Medical personel/equipment and soldiers/vehicles to transport them. Killing the guy removes 1 soldier from direct combat, wounding him removes the victim and 2-4 others+vehicle+resources temporarily) and having badly mutilated people is bad for enemy morale. Also with personal armor being widely available and taking in to account normal fighting distances of infantry combat, weapons like shotguns and pistols are at a clear disadvantage.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#48 - 2012-07-21 04:15:51 UTC
Destination SkillQueue wrote:
Shameless Avenger wrote:
Pulgy wrote:
Shameless Avenger wrote:

The .223 round really sucks that much? No wonder we are still stuck in the middle east. We are under-gunned. Any ex-military here could shed some light as per why so many survived?


really?


It seems most of the fatalities were from the .40 handgun and the shotgun. If that's the case, restrictions on assault rifles are meaningless and William Hughes had it all wrong.


Getting mostly wounded is the norm with personal firearms. Wounding isn't all bad though, since the level of wounding takes the guy out of combat duty, treating wounded ties up valuable resources on the other side and takes even more people off the front line(Medical personel/equipment and soldiers/vehicles to transport them. Killing the guy removes 1 soldier from direct combat, wounding him removes the victim and 2-4 others+vehicle+resources temporarily) and having badly mutilated people is bad for enemy morale. Also with personal armor being widely available and taking in to account normal fighting distances of infantry combat, weapons like shotguns and pistols are at a clear disadvantage.


Nonsence. I had a shotgun in battlefield BC2 that could be used as a sniper.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#49 - 2012-07-21 04:22:28 UTC
Oh noes! Teh TSA going to fondle me to go see movies Cry

http://news.yahoo.com/security-increased-movies-following-shootings-163023597.html

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Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
#50 - 2012-07-21 04:26:19 UTC
*Applies for TSA Fondling Specialist position*

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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#51 - 2012-07-21 04:27:07 UTC
Shameless Avenger wrote:
*Applies for TSA Fondling Specialist position*


http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzi8dbBvQk1r0b5veo1_500.png

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rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#52 - 2012-07-21 05:30:02 UTC
He might have been spraying the AR, while the shotgun and handgun are sometimes harder to spray them. Yeah spray would kill less and injure more, but at the same time, you won't be overwhelmed by the tons of people.

Just poison tip them next time.

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Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#53 - 2012-07-21 06:24:14 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Shameless Avenger wrote:
*Applies for TSA Fondling Specialist position*


http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzi8dbBvQk1r0b5veo1_500.png



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snrjwjXfQPs

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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#54 - 2012-07-21 06:35:18 UTC
rodyas wrote:
He might have been spraying the AR, while the shotgun and handgun are sometimes harder to spray them. Yeah spray would kill less and injure more, but at the same time, you won't be overwhelmed by the tons of people.

Just poison tip them next time.


Sold out movie theater... 1 12 gauge round would take out 2-3 people a shot, also panicked civilians don't try to overwhelm the attacker. They run or pretend to be dead like they should be for being incompetent and complacent

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Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#55 - 2012-07-21 06:40:25 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
rodyas wrote:
He might have been spraying the AR, while the shotgun and handgun are sometimes harder to spray them. Yeah spray would kill less and injure more, but at the same time, you won't be overwhelmed by the tons of people.

Just poison tip them next time.


Sold out movie theater... 1 12 gauge round would take out 2-3 people a shot, also panicked civilians don't try to overwhelm the attacker. They run or pretend to be dead like they should be for being incompetent and complacent


And before people try to make snarky comebacks about running at a man with a gun, yes there are articles where this happens.

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Whang'Lo
Cosmically Irrelevant
#56 - 2012-07-21 08:04:52 UTC
Amend the constitution of the united states, to make it no longer legal to own firearms. Since I know there
are like a gazillion gun nuts out there I will make a quick FAQ here, so I don't have to keep posting.

Gun nut FAQ:

1. It's my constitutional right to bears arms.

This is true. But it's also true that the constitution is a living document and can be amended. For instance slavery
was abolished by an amendment to the constitution.

2. If people can't bear arms then only the criminals will have firearms.

There are roughly 300 or so cases each year in the united states of self defense resulting in death that are ruled
"justifiable". The chances of you owning a gun and using that gun in self defense and it being ruled "justified" is
almost none.

3. If I don't have a gun then someone can break into my house and I can't defend myself.

Generally speaking people don't break into your house when your home. Contrary to popular belief occupied home
invasions are extremely rare. Since people break into your house when your not home that nice new shiny hand cannon
you bought is stolen and is now used to further crime not prevent it.

4. Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

No actually guns kill people.

5. If citizens are not armed then the government can take over!

Lets see, Tanks, Air Force, Professional Army, Cruise Missles, Predator Drones, etc etc versus Small Arms.






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Kurfin
Kippers and Jam Developments
#57 - 2012-07-21 09:08:15 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Marconus Orion wrote:

Most likely they will hone in on the entertainment industry as a whole. They always do. You know because crazy people did not exist before film, music and video games... right??


Looking back through history I cannot think of a single event where people went mad and killed lots of others. It cannot be a coincidence that the first world war happened not long after movies were invented.


Probably has more to do with weapons technology, the reload time on a musket rules out a one man rampage.
Jada Maroo
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#58 - 2012-07-21 10:11:24 UTC
Whang'Lo wrote:
spew




No one cares what you think.
Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
#59 - 2012-07-21 10:22:00 UTC
Whang'Lo wrote:

2. If people can't bear arms then only the criminals will have firearms.

There are roughly 300 or so cases each year in the united states of self defense resulting in death that are ruled
"justifiable". The chances of you owning a gun and using that gun in self defense and it being ruled "justified" is
almost none.


Working as intended. Deterrence is a good thing.

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Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
#60 - 2012-07-21 10:23:53 UTC
Whang'Lo wrote:

3. If I don't have a gun then someone can break into my house and I can't defend myself.

Generally speaking people don't break into your house when your home. Contrary to popular belief occupied home
invasions are extremely rare. Since people break into your house when your not home that nice new shiny hand cannon
you bought is stolen and is now used to further crime not prevent it.


Probably because the home owner might have a gun? Again... working as intended. Deterrance is a good thing.

"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro"