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BolsterBomb
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-07-20 16:54:12 UTC
Question for mining corps

How many belts could you go through in a given day say you have 30 + miners actively mining at any given time period?

Brig General of The Caldari State

"Don" Bolsterbomb

Traitor and Ex Luminaire General of The Gallente Federation
Zera Kerrigan
The 420th Token
#2 - 2012-07-20 17:13:23 UTC
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BolsterBomb
Perkone
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-07-20 17:15:54 UTC
really is that it? I have no idea so I dont know if your being sarcastic or not.

Brig General of The Caldari State

"Don" Bolsterbomb

Traitor and Ex Luminaire General of The Gallente Federation
Vanria Vexed
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-07-20 17:20:45 UTC
A very broad question.

What are the miners piloting; exhumers, mining barges, battleships, cruisers, frigates? How are the mining vessels fit(max yeild, max tank, max cargo)? Do they have orca/roqual support? What kind of belts are they mining?

It takes me about 6 hours with 2 hulks with and average yield of 1400m3/stripper to kill a full belt in a 0.5/0.6 system.

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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#5 - 2012-07-20 17:21:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
With just 2 Hulks I can easily clean a hisec belt myself. I usually take a break after that, assuming it was a decent-sized belt. I'd probably set my limit at 3 a day.

If you cherry-pick, you will need far more belts. I clear everything (slightly OCD).
BolsterBomb
Perkone
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-07-20 17:23:39 UTC
OK : Assuming hulks / covetors with max mining skills, boosted orca /rorqual supprt in .1-.3 low sec systems

Brig General of The Caldari State

"Don" Bolsterbomb

Traitor and Ex Luminaire General of The Gallente Federation
ABRACADABSTRACTART
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-07-20 17:26:46 UTC
BolsterBomb wrote:
in .1-.3 low sec systems

that kind of messes up the equation with warp offs and other hazards.
BolsterBomb
Perkone
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-07-20 17:29:21 UTC
ABRACADABSTRACTART wrote:
BolsterBomb wrote:
in .1-.3 low sec systems

that kind of messes up the equation with warp offs and other hazards.



Claean safe system therotically 100% safe

Brig General of The Caldari State

"Don" Bolsterbomb

Traitor and Ex Luminaire General of The Gallente Federation
Vanria Vexed
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-07-20 17:41:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Vanria Vexed
A Hulk with max skills and with perfect Rorqual support will yield 5459m3/cycle cycling at 119.25sec/cycle giving ~164,800m3/hr. Assuming the volume of static belts to be ~500,000 m3 of ore 3 miners in perfect condition hulks could kill a belt in an hour. (Sorry can't find an hard data on the average volume of static belts)

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Alyssa SaintCroix
Leihkasse Stammheim
#10 - 2012-07-20 17:45:53 UTC
I'd say that it depends on the density of the rocks themselves and the types in the belt. If you've got a ton of veld rocks at 30-40K a piece a team of 3-4 hulks plus an Orca could probably clear it fairly fast but once you start throwing in the high volume ores you start getting less drawn out of the rocks and more time spent in the belt.
Zera Kerrigan
The 420th Token
#11 - 2012-07-20 18:05:25 UTC
Alyssa SaintCroix wrote:
I'd say that it depends on the density of the rocks themselves and the types in the belt.


Ofcourse it depends on the belt etc. It would probably take considerably more time in a lowsec system compared to a highsec system too. But with 30+ miners in mining barges... You would really have a hard time finding belts instead of depleting them.
Zyella Stormborn
Green Seekers
#12 - 2012-07-20 18:39:27 UTC
I can't see having more than 10 Hulk's in an op in a single system. You would wipe out the belts too fast, and be spending more time warping / setting up than you would be mining.

30+ miners in low sec / 0.0, youd be better off hitting 3 systems at a time, and making darn sure you had a LOT of friendly military support around to protect your 40+ billion isk shooting gallery.

Largest op I have ever been in was 14 hulks in .4 space with Orca and 3 indy hauler runners, with 6 pvp ships running screen. We wiped out the entire system (I think it was 8 or 9 belts) in about 6 hours. Had to break and run to station 3x while unfriendlies came in, so there were a couple of delays.

Not sure if that helps or not.

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BolsterBomb
Perkone
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-07-20 18:45:20 UTC  |  Edited by: BolsterBomb
Zyella Stormborn wrote:
I can't see having more than 10 Hulk's in an op in a single system. You would wipe out the belts too fast, and be spending more time warping / setting up than you would be mining.

30+ miners in low sec / 0.0, youd be better off hitting 3 systems at a time, and making darn sure you had a LOT of friendly military support around to protect your 40+ billion isk shooting gallery.

Largest op I have ever been in was 14 hulks in .4 space with Orca and 3 indy hauler runners, with 6 pvp ships running screen. We wiped out the entire system (I think it was 8 or 9 belts) in about 6 hours. Had to break and run to station 3x while unfriendlies came in, so there were a couple of delays.

Not sure if that helps or not.



this does help. Thanks. Whats the respawn on belts?

Brig General of The Caldari State

"Don" Bolsterbomb

Traitor and Ex Luminaire General of The Gallente Federation
Huttan Funaila
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-07-20 18:55:55 UTC
It depends on the size and composition of the rocks in the belt. An interesting pdf that describes the variety of belts one can get in null-sec should give you an idea: http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/1006/Bloodtear_Industy_Index_Report.pdf

Respawn on belts is determined at downtime. Which rocks respawn is based on a game-wide pool according to GM Abraxas.
http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Farming_asteroids
http://eve.wikia.com/wiki/Farming_asteroids
BolsterBomb
Perkone
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-07-20 19:00:01 UTC
IM trying to figure out if I had 30 miners going at all times if they would have enough supply in a 100% safe system. And how many belts they woudl need to keep them mining at their pleasure.

Thats the basis for this question.

Brig General of The Caldari State

"Don" Bolsterbomb

Traitor and Ex Luminaire General of The Gallente Federation
Cap James Tkirk
Baba Yagas
The Initiative.
#16 - 2012-07-20 20:38:31 UTC
with that many miners you will need most likely several systems to satisfy them unless you have 20+ belts and all 30 are not active at once
Victoria Sin
Doomheim
#17 - 2012-07-20 22:06:04 UTC
BolsterBomb wrote:
IM trying to figure out if I had 30 miners going at all times if they would have enough supply in a 100% safe system. And how many belts they woudl need to keep them mining at their pleasure.

Thats the basis for this question.


Two boosted Hulks can strip an entire belt in a couple of hours, assuming the hauling is done by another character. This would be on the first day only. On the second day the stripped belts will re-spawn, but the asteroids won't be "full", so ideally you want to switch systems and let them grow back again over a period of days. For 30 miners it would be very difficult indeed to keep things efficient. You'd probably need a constellation of safe systems.
P3po
Perkone
Caldari State
#18 - 2012-07-21 18:28:22 UTC
Or go to 0.0 and mine gravimetrics. It can support 150 miners in one system if you like :D
Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-07-21 20:28:52 UTC
Pretty sure you can't even mine 1 complete ice belt
P3po
Perkone
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-07-21 21:05:42 UTC
Well, he was asking about ore i believe. Ice belts are "infinite" .... they cant be mined out. Or maybe yes, but you will need few hundreds of macks to do so.
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