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Low Sec Gate Cans Exploit essentially unenforcable by CCP
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Suqq Madiq
#41 - 2012-07-19 17:50:43 UTC
Lady Spank wrote:
post on your main unless you want to be considered a joke/troll.


What's the difference? You post on your main and you're still considered a joke/troll.
Sorceror Majiir
Doomheim
#42 - 2012-07-19 17:52:30 UTC
lol would you look at all this whiney crap feedback...

eddie: I began play in 2003, seen this many times in the past, first time in recent years tho.

dunan: ""This is in now way an exploit.

Please OP take a moment and think about what you just post. I'll help you be translating it:

" please CCP nerf physics because I'm so aweful at this game even the law of conservations are ******* with me """

And next your going to say you know something about physics? okay lets hear it .. since I do that for a living, this should be really funny.

Stoner: really? you get out much?

Ra Jackson: I answered the relevant posts, just read and you'll see. It's all there. Much of the discussion shifted to "is it an exploit", I answered, yes according to the GM who said it becomes one dependent on number of cans present. Looking through old posts involving similar scenarios, there appeared to be a 6 can limit of dropped cans imposed in the past. Not sure if this is the limit the GM meant though as he did not reveal this magic number.


Anyway folks, I'm done with this thread. Mission was to alert pilots this would affect and that's been done. caio
Angry Onions
League of Angered Gentlemen
#43 - 2012-07-19 17:56:28 UTC
So.... you told the people who would use a tactic that helps them kill better, of which most of them are already aware of it?

S H I T P O S T I N G
Pipa Porto
#44 - 2012-07-19 18:14:29 UTC
Sorceror Majiir wrote:
Ra Jackson: I answered the relevant posts, just read and you'll see. It's all there. Much of the discussion shifted to "is it an exploit", I answered, yes according to the GM who said it becomes one dependent on number of cans present. Looking through old posts involving similar scenarios, there appeared to be a 6 can limit of dropped cans imposed in the past. Not sure if this is the limit the GM meant though as he did not reveal this magic number.


The GMs have been very clear in the past about this. If it causes people to lag out, it's a problem. If it doesn't, it's not a problem.

You stated that you got bounced around. That doesn't sound like you were getting lagged out, it sounds like you bumped into something and got dead.

Please link the post where a GM said there was a 6 can limit.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#45 - 2012-07-19 19:22:58 UTC
Problems with your statement.


1) only if the cans cause lag to the client loading grid is there an exploit (applies to drones, mas dropped shuttles from Orcas, etc).

2) cannot anchor cans very close to gates (and you confirm they are unachored)

3) you CANNOT bump off unanchored objects.


So, in short, not an exploit, and cannot happen the way you describe it.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#46 - 2012-07-19 21:25:34 UTC
Sorceror Majiir wrote:
lol would you look at all this whiney crap feedback...
You mean all the feedback telling you you're wrong?

Correct feedback ≠ whiney crap feeback. Blink

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
StonerPhReaK
Herb Men
#47 - 2012-07-20 01:15:16 UTC
Sorceror Majiir wrote:
lol would you look at all this whiney crap feedback...

Stoner: really? you get out much?



Jus pokin a lil fun. If you thought this was an exploit i'd hate to see what you think of the rest of the game. Also..You did say gate gun camping.. Go look. Its kinda funny.

And yes, i get out of lowsec every day. Never once have i bumped off a can, I may have hit the gate a lil hard or warped inside of it somehow. But since i was paying attention i jus clicked "jump". Guess what happened.







Yep i jumped.

Its ok though. I still love you even though you wont be around to respond to me tryin to get you to lighten up a tad.

Signatures wer cooler when we couldn't remove them completely.
TharOkha
0asis Group
#48 - 2012-07-20 04:48:34 UTC
I can confirm that those cans causing big lag. Last time i traveled throu rancer, there were a sh*tload of cans arround the gate. Lag as hell. (no i didnt lost ship,im old enough (in eve years) to know how to travel throu lowsec)

Now we all know that those cans has a purpose. To catch cloaky ships (all other excuses are just lame and childish). Question is, if it is normal to blob a server database to catch a ships?

I propose that:
-it should be impossible to anchor cans inside gate grids.
-If you shoot ship near the gate, the wreck and cans it drops ,should last only about 1-2 mins, then despawns. So the attacker will have enough time to loot it/ savage it and server database will not suffer.

PS.: If you want to catch cloakies, find another way, 5-10 pilots orbiting the gate at 15km should be enought. Lagging the server is not the solution.

CODE. Venture hunt contest in a nutshell
Pipa Porto
#49 - 2012-07-20 05:53:47 UTC
TharOkha wrote:
I can confirm that those cans causing big lag. Last time i traveled throu rancer, there were a sh*tload of cans arround the gate. Lag as hell. (no i didnt lost ship,im old enough (in eve years) to know how to travel throu lowsec)

Now we all know that those cans has a purpose. To catch cloaky ships (all other excuses are just lame and childish). Question is, if it is normal to blob a server database to catch a ships?

I propose that:
-it should be impossible to anchor cans inside gate grids.
-If you shoot ship near the gate, the wreck and cans it drops ,should last only about 1-2 mins, then despawns. So the attacker will have enough time to loot it/ savage it and server database will not suffer.

PS.: If you want to catch cloakies, find another way, 5-10 pilots orbiting the gate at 15km should be enought. Lagging the server is not the solution.


Hey, guess what. If there are enough cans (or other objects) to cause lag, you can petition it and have them removed.

The OP was not talking about that though. He bumped into something and got mad.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Astroniomix
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#50 - 2012-07-20 08:25:11 UTC
TharOkha wrote:
I can confirm that those cans causing big lag. Last time i traveled throu rancer, there were a sh*tload of cans arround the gate. Lag as hell. (no i didnt lost ship,im old enough (in eve years) to know how to travel throu lowsec)

Now we all know that those cans has a purpose. To catch cloaky ships (all other excuses are just lame and childish). Question is, if it is normal to blob a server database to catch a ships?

I propose that:
-it should be impossible to anchor cans inside gate grids.
-If you shoot ship near the gate, the wreck and cans it drops ,should last only about 1-2 mins, then despawns. So the attacker will have enough time to loot it/ savage it and server database will not suffer.

PS.: If you want to catch cloakies, find another way, 5-10 pilots orbiting the gate at 15km should be enought. Lagging the server is not the solution.

If you were in rancer there is a good chance that was negative ten's doing. Equal chance that it was a result of their permacamp or inentional.
sup holmes
Order of the Void Logistics
#51 - 2012-08-13 13:08:37 UTC
The rule about the cans is that if you go into TI-DI while loading grid or loading grid when jumping in they will take it away, nothing else will get them taken away
Michael Harari
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
#52 - 2012-08-13 19:09:31 UTC
sup holmes wrote:
The rule about the cans is that if you go into TI-DI while loading grid or loading grid when jumping in they will take it away, nothing else will get them taken away


This is not the rule because tidi is cluster wide, not for particular players or grids.
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#53 - 2012-08-13 19:27:33 UTC
sup holmes wrote:
The rule about the cans is that if you go into TI-DI while loading grid or loading grid when jumping in they will take it away, nothing else will get them taken away

Why!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why did you necro!!!!

Lol
eddie valvetino
Victory or Whatever
Nourv Gate Security Commission
#54 - 2012-08-13 21:02:39 UTC
Sorceror Majiir wrote:
lol would you look at all this whiney crap feedback...

eddie: I began play in 2003, seen this many times in the past, first time in recent years tho.

dunan: ""This is in now way an exploit.

Please OP take a moment and think about what you just post. I'll help you be translating it:

" please CCP nerf physics because I'm so aweful at this game even the law of conservations are ******* with me """

And next your going to say you know something about physics? okay lets hear it .. since I do that for a living, this should be really funny.

Stoner: really? you get out much?

Ra Jackson: I answered the relevant posts, just read and you'll see. It's all there. Much of the discussion shifted to "is it an exploit", I answered, yes according to the GM who said it becomes one dependent on number of cans present. Looking through old posts involving similar scenarios, there appeared to be a 6 can limit of dropped cans imposed in the past. Not sure if this is the limit the GM meant though as he did not reveal this magic number.


Anyway folks, I'm done with this thread. Mission was to alert pilots this would affect and that's been done. caio




only thing I can say to that...

honestly, i'm so sorry for doubting your skill and doing physics for a living is sooo cool, i wish i was you.

also

umad bro?
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