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Problem with super nerf - super caps are committed for 23 hours and die if the subcap fleet welps
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xxxak
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2011-10-10 18:12:05 UTC  |  Edited by: xxxak
This nerf = Lose Subcap battle, lose all supers on the field.

So with this nerf, supers can no longer defend themselves from subcaps, so now supers are committed for 23 hours once they cyno in if they lose the subcap battle.

Hypothetically, this means that if you have a 15 man super fleet (mid size alliance), plus 120 sub caps (mid size alliance), and lose the subcap battle, you also just lost all your supers.

Kthxbai. No way a sane super pilot will commit now unless they are 150% sure that they have a winning fleet. EVE is dead.

[u]The nerfs to supercaps will cause more super pilots to join the largest alliances who can properly "support" their deployment, further concentrating firepower/wealth in EVE. The end result will be fewer "fun" fights, and will hurt EVE in the long run.[/u]
Gogurt
#2 - 2011-10-10 18:12:32 UTC
He is so mad...
xxxak
Perkone
Caldari State
#3 - 2011-10-10 18:13:04 UTC
Gogurt wrote:
He is so mad...


I hope, at the very least, my tears fuel you.

[u]The nerfs to supercaps will cause more super pilots to join the largest alliances who can properly "support" their deployment, further concentrating firepower/wealth in EVE. The end result will be fewer "fun" fights, and will hurt EVE in the long run.[/u]
Rens Cheque
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2011-10-10 18:15:05 UTC
xxxak wrote:
This nerf = Lose Subcap battle, lose all supers on the field.

So with this nerf, supers can no longer defend themselves from subcaps, and are committed for 23 hours once they cyno in if they lose the subcap battle.

That means that if you have a 15 man super fleet (mid size alliance), plus 120 sub caps (mid size alliance), and lose the subcap battle, you also just lost 15 supers.

None of this sounds bad to me.
Brynhilda
Chimp Hoons Export and Expo Service
Scary Wormhole People
#5 - 2011-10-10 18:15:05 UTC
Oh noes.

The Nullsec Lords can no longer instant win.

Quick! To the Egg Beater Mobile!

How may I drug you with drugs?
Gogurt
#6 - 2011-10-10 18:15:06 UTC
xxxak wrote:
Gogurt wrote:
He is so mad...


I hope, at the very least, my tears fuel you.


Thank you I will keep them in a special bottle to use at the right moment
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2011-10-10 18:15:17 UTC
lets see

remote ECM to jam those pesky enemy support ships
RR
fighters still hurt sub caps they just dont roflstomp.
neuts?
titans can still DD dreads/carriers.
carriers can now be used as anti support ships instead of just RR.
Boseo
Azure Horizon
#8 - 2011-10-10 18:15:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Boseo
xxxak wrote:
stuff ......... EVE is dead.


If I had a penny for every time I read that (or variant) on here ....I would not be able to move around my house any more.

Sorry but file “forumsig.GIF” is currently unavailable please come back later…… like in a year or so.
Reeno Coleman
#9 - 2011-10-10 18:22:37 UTC
Shocking. You can lose your stuff.

Welcome to EVE.
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#10 - 2011-10-10 18:24:25 UTC
This will be an interesting winter Big smile


Slade
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#11 - 2011-10-10 18:25:07 UTC
Fight smarter not die harder.

Dust 514's CPM 1 Iron Wolf Saber Eve mail me about Dust 514 issues.
Just Another Toon
Doomheim
#12 - 2011-10-10 18:30:08 UTC
Yep and so it should be...you commit your supers and cant defend them ..tough....the log offski was a joke...
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#13 - 2011-10-10 18:31:53 UTC
Rens Cheque wrote:
None of this sounds bad to me.
FeralShadow
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2011-10-10 18:33:47 UTC
boseo wrote:
xxxak wrote:
stuff ......... EVE is dead.


If I had a penny for every time I read that (or variant) on here ....I would not be able to move around my house any more.



I lol'd because it's true.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
EI Digin
irc.zulusquad.org
#15 - 2011-10-10 19:00:48 UTC
Consequences? For your actions??

It's now more likely than you think.
Fix Lag
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2011-10-10 19:05:55 UTC
xxxak wrote:
This nerf = Lose Subcap battle, lose all supers on the field.

So with this nerf, supers can no longer defend themselves from subcaps, so now supers are committed for 23 hours once they cyno in if they lose the subcap battle.

Hypothetically, this means that if you have a 15 man super fleet (mid size alliance), plus 120 sub caps (mid size alliance), and lose the subcap battle, you also just lost all your supers.


That's the point.

CCP mostly sucks at their job, but Veritas is a pretty cool dude.
miningtool
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2011-10-10 19:09:18 UTC
supers were in no shape or form instant win. no one is willing to drop supers on goons and test fleets for a reason we eat them with subcaps now they will just be useless ships that cant hold enough drones
Barakkus
#18 - 2011-10-10 19:11:08 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Rens Cheque wrote:
None of this sounds bad to me.

http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc
Anachronic
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2011-10-10 19:11:28 UTC
OP...you so mad it's ceased to be funny.

but really, all of the things you are complaining about are the whole reason for the nerf. If you have a fleet fight with a bunch of sub and super cap ships and you fail to gain superiority in the subcap arena then it affects the supercaps, versus before where you could just run around with a mess of super caps and take on sub caps without really caring one way or the other as long as the other supercaps died. Just deal with it mmmkay?
Jooce McNasty
Islefive Consulting
#20 - 2011-10-10 19:14:19 UTC
Change your tactics, don't just drop your supers on a blob.

Drop them off grid somewhere else in system. Don't drop them all in one place. Make sure you have Cap and Sub cap support. Use the clone vat and carry fit ships for people to reship quick.

If your a 1 trick super blob pony you deserve to die.

You should never have ever seen Supers on field without, caps and sub caps, the fact that you did shows you how bad that CCP ****** up when they re-balanced supers.
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