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T2BPO why they should be removed and how.

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Pipa Porto
#721 - 2012-07-19 19:07:02 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Your idiotic assessment of the cost isn't relative to the question. Tell me again how you have to put your BPOs in the POS and require 10.0 Faction standing and 10.0 Sec status to anchor.


No office in NYC = no corp hangar = BPO must be in POS.


When did we start talking about NYC?

An Office in a nice quiet system is like 10m ISK a month.

Just because you've decided to be an idiot doesn't mean you have to put your BPOs in the POS.

And tell me again how you need a 10.0 Faction standing and 10.0 Sec Status to anchor it.

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-RubyPorto
shar'ra matcevsovski
Doomheim
#722 - 2012-07-19 19:11:00 UTC  |  Edited by: shar'ra matcevsovski
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
shar'ra matcevsovski wrote:
that, plus 5000 T2 invul BPOs in the game ade my day, thank youBig smileBig smile


Any reason why I should use something else other than large deathstar/****star in hisec?



How much more does a death star cost than an empty online tower and no mods would cost? what ya think?^^LolLol

its getting better and better...


and yea in High sec a death totally make sense :DDD Christ!

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Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#723 - 2012-07-19 19:14:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Jorma Morkkis
Pipa Porto wrote:
And tell me again how you need a 10.0 Faction standing and 10.0 Sec Status to anchor it.


In 1.0 system you need those.

shar'ra matcevsovski wrote:
and yea in High sec a death totally make sense :DDD Christ!


So, small tower with two guns and as many labs and hangars as possible in 0.5. Should I put all my BPOs there for you to steal?
Pipa Porto
#724 - 2012-07-19 19:17:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Pipa Porto
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
And tell me again how you need a 10.0 Faction standing and 10.0 Sec Status to anchor it.


In 1.0 system you need those.


HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHA

You can't anchor POSes in a 1.0 system. Even if you could, the Sec level of the system doesn't really matter in HS because you need a wardec to reasonably kill a POS.

Tell me again how the BPOs have to go into a POS and how Sec status is at all relevant?
And tell me again how copying a T2 BPO is a worthwhile idea

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-RubyPorto
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#725 - 2012-07-19 19:22:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Jorma Morkkis
Pipa Porto wrote:
Tell me again how the BPOs have to go into a POS and how Sec status is at all relevant?


If POS is in system without stations or CORP DOESN'T have OFFICE in that system, BPOs must be in POS. What part of that you don't understand?

And how there's towers in 0.8 and 0.9 systems then?
Pipa Porto
#726 - 2012-07-19 19:25:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Pipa Porto
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Tell me again how the BPOs have to go into a POS and how Sec status is at all relevant?


If POS is in system without stations or CORP DOESN'T have OFFICE in that system, BPOs must be in POS. What part of that you don't understand?

And how there's towers in 0.8 and 0.9 systems then?



The part where you'd be stupid enough to put yourself in that position.

And there aren't. .5, .6, and .7 can have towers in HS.

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-RubyPorto
shar'ra matcevsovski
Doomheim
#727 - 2012-07-19 19:37:09 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
And tell me again how you need a 10.0 Faction standing and 10.0 Sec Status to anchor it.


In 1.0 system you need those.

shar'ra matcevsovski wrote:
and yea in High sec a death totally make sense :DDD Christ!


So, small tower with two guns and as many labs and hangars as possible in 0.5. Should I put all my BPOs there for you to steal?


-Towers cant be anchored in 1.0 systems
-if wardeced you unanchor it so as less stuff to unachor as better
-if no wardec nobody can engage your POS without getting Concord Aggro
-High sec ganking POSes doesnt exist, and if guns wouldnt do **** cause Concord does it faster anyway
-Fuel Blocks dont care if modules are anchored or not, its always teh SAME DRAIN.
-You have not even basic eve knowledge.




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Lady Naween
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#728 - 2012-07-19 19:40:08 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Tell me again how the BPOs have to go into a POS and how Sec status is at all relevant?


If POS is in system without stations or CORP DOESN'T have OFFICE in that system, BPOs must be in POS. What part of that you don't understand?

And how there's towers in 0.8 and 0.9 systems then?


why on earth did you put a tower in a system with no station? i just spent 10 minutes checking and i found about 14 empty moons in 0.5 and 0.6 systems with stations in them.

and as said, you cant put towers in systems higher then 0.7.

also you seem to be under the misinformed info that the number of mods you have on a tower affect the fuel cost. it doesnt anymore and havent for a while.

shesh...
shar'ra matcevsovski
Doomheim
#729 - 2012-07-19 19:42:15 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Tell me again how the BPOs have to go into a POS and how Sec status is at all relevant?


If POS is in system without stations or CORP DOESN'T have OFFICE in that system, BPOs must be in POS. What part of that you don't understand?

And how there's towers in 0.8 and 0.9 systems then?



OMG have yo uever seen a POS in a 0.8 systems? Or did these guides tell you that?

and why would you not have a corp hangar? everyone can rent one and unless your stupid and take one in a crowded station they cost 10.000 isk per month

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Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#730 - 2012-07-19 19:45:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Jorma Morkkis
Lady Naween wrote:
why on earth did you put a tower in a system with no station?


https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1653133#post1653133

shar'ra matcevsovski wrote:
OMG have yo uever seen a POS in a 0.8 systems? Or did these guides tell you that?


I can see all nearby towers in d-scan. I've also seen few in 0.8 and 0.9 systems just by warping around.
Lady Naween
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#731 - 2012-07-19 19:49:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Lady Naween
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Lady Naween wrote:
why on earth did you put a tower in a system with no station?


https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1653133#post1653133

shar'ra matcevsovski wrote:
OMG have yo uever seen a POS in a 0.8 systems? Or did these guides tell you that?


I can see all nearby towers in d-scan. I've also seen few in 0.8 and 0.9 systems just by warping around.



yes because that totally wasnt a TROLLPOST!!! and the poster even admitted it a few posts further down!

and no you havent. picture proof or STFU! unless you are talking about the NPC towers in some missions

oh and.. just for you http://xcc.xanga.com/d64f913a57135264685908/w211047782.png
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
#732 - 2012-07-19 19:50:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Akita T
You can only anchor towers in a system of up to 0.7 listed sec status.
You need 5.00[..]01 faction for anchoring in 0.5, 6.00[..]01 for 0.6 and 7.00[..]01 for 0.7.
YOU CAN NOT anchor one in a 1.0, 0.9 nor 0.8 sec. It just won't let you, regardless of faction standings.

You only need the faction standings to ANCHOR a tower, everything else can be done without faction standings.
Security status does not matter, like almost anything else.
You can buy corps setup for standings of your choosing for under 0.2 bil ISK.

NOT renting an office in whatever system you put the POS up is bordering on totally stupid, especially since (if you spend more than a few minutes looking for it) you can relatively easily find a system with empty moons, available office space AND cheap rental bills.

Ever since the switch to fuel blocks, a tower always consumes the same amount of resources regardless of what's online or offline on it.
A large tower costs more like 0.6 bil ISK/month to run, not 1 bil.
For copy, invention and manufacture jobs a MEDIUM tower will more than suffice for a single user (and in most circumstances be enough for quite a few extra users on "rotation" schedules), and it should only cost ~0.3 bil ISK/month to run... and even a FREAKING SMALL ONE will do just fine for an entire corp, ESPECIALLY if its main use will be manufacture of modules instead of the entire copy-invent-manufacture cycle (because you can buy T1 BPCs from contracts at quite attractive prices and run invention in NPC slots, of which there's enough available in most of highsec).

There were only a bit over 10k T2 BPOs in the entire game near the end of the lottery, and some were lost since then.
There's MOST LIKELY around 40 units of Invul Field II BPOs, probably even less than that, and certainly not over 80.
The total daily production from even 80 of them (which I'm completely sure do not exist) in POS rapid assembly arrays would be about 1,376 units/day. Guess how many are actually traded on a daily basis across the entire game ? Here's a hint : a lot more. Jita could maybe at best represent half of daily universal trade, probably noticeably less.

Jorma Morkkis wrote:
I can see all nearby towers in d-scan. I've also seen few in 0.8 and 0.9 systems just by warping around.

Are you sure you were actually in a 0.9 system ?
Are you sure they're actually ANCHORED PLAYER-OWNED towers ?
Are you sure you're not just plain ole' lying through your teeth right now, if you're completely sure about both of the above ?

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shar'ra matcevsovski
Doomheim
#733 - 2012-07-19 19:54:35 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Lady Naween wrote:
why on earth did you put a tower in a system with no station?


https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1653133#post1653133

shar'ra matcevsovski wrote:
OMG have yo uever seen a POS in a 0.8 systems? Or did these guides tell you that?


I can see all nearby towers in d-scan. I've also seen few in 0.8 and 0.9 systems just by warping around.



well how about I give you 1 billion if u find one? just give me a location...


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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
#734 - 2012-07-19 19:57:20 UTC
Wouldn't it be funny if somebody actually launched a tower in a 0.9 system and just left it there thinking it's anchored and this guy flew past one without just picking it up for quick cash ?

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Lady Naween
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#735 - 2012-07-19 20:00:32 UTC
Akita T wrote:
Wouldn't it be funny if somebody actually launched a tower in a 0.9 system and just left it there thinking it's anchored and this guy flew past one without just picking it up for quick cash ?


^^ yes it would be.. hmm makes you wonder how often people do that.
shar'ra matcevsovski
Doomheim
#736 - 2012-07-19 20:02:28 UTC
Akita T wrote:
Wouldn't it be funny if somebody actually launched a tower in a 0.9 system and just left it there thinking it's anchored and this guy flew past one without just picking it up for quick cash ?


hehe thats what I thought when i asked for the locations :p

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Lady Naween
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#737 - 2012-07-19 20:05:02 UTC
judging by his post history, all his posts are pure troll :) so our first guesses where right.. troll. but then again there are plenty of not too clever people in this game.
Pipa Porto
#738 - 2012-07-19 20:12:22 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Lady Naween wrote:
why on earth did you put a tower in a system with no station?


https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1653133#post1653133


https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1653262#post1653262

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shar'ra matcevsovski wrote:
OMG have yo uever seen a POS in a 0.8 systems? Or did these guides tell you that?


I can see all nearby towers in d-scan. I've also seen few in 0.8 and 0.9 systems just by warping around.


I'll second the offer of 1b for the location of an Anchored POS in a .8 or .9 system.

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-RubyPorto
shar'ra matcevsovski
Doomheim
#739 - 2012-07-19 21:12:16 UTC
Lady Naween wrote:
judging by his post history, all his posts are pure troll :) so our first guesses where right.. troll. but then again there are plenty of not too clever people in this game.


cripes...yea ur right... he was actually just playing brewlar and I feel rly dumb now for not seeing that earlier :(

well played, Jorma Morkkis

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Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
#740 - 2012-07-19 21:13:39 UTC
I'd be happy if invention was buffed beyond T2BP or if invention actually made items beyond T2 ie T2-B items that had slightly better stats or fitting requirements than current T2. This would allow bitter vets to keep their free hand out while making them irrelevant for inventors.