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New dev blog: Tech is fine l2p

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Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#261 - 2012-07-19 17:59:57 UTC
Terrorfrodo wrote:
Maybe the passive alliance income from moons should be made dependent on player activity. For example, a tech moon will still produce technetium, but the production rate is determined by how many members of the holding alliance are active in the system. A moon in a system where nobody really lives, or where people live who are not members of the moon-owning alliance, would produce less moon goo.

This way there'd still be a strategic incentive for alliances to conquer territory, but the worth of them would be tied to the number and activity of their players. No alliance could rake in trillions by just stomping pos-attackers with their supercap fleet in their otherwise unused systems.


Yes, so instead of fleet battles alliance income would depend on who can choke a system with the most alts. Truly a brilliant idea, you sound just like you already work at CCP.
EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#262 - 2012-07-19 18:00:06 UTC
MeBiatch wrote:

nah i am not poor (well maybe in relation to you but i got my own sc and such that i did 10/10 complexes for so i am middle class?)

you're poor just not wretchedly poor
Hench Tenet
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#263 - 2012-07-19 18:00:46 UTC
I don't understand the crying. People don't dislike tech because it's overpowered or because it's in the north, they don't like it because they don't have it. Whichever resource is the best to have, will be taken by the strongest.

People are literally upset that they're not as good at eve as others.
Magnifikus Erzverwirrer
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
#264 - 2012-07-19 18:02:12 UTC
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
Terrorfrodo wrote:
Maybe the passive alliance income from moons should be made dependent on player activity. For example, a tech moon will still produce technetium, but the production rate is determined by how many members of the holding alliance are active in the system. A moon in a system where nobody really lives, or where people live who are not members of the moon-owning alliance, would produce less moon goo.

This way there'd still be a strategic incentive for alliances to conquer territory, but the worth of them would be tied to the number and activity of their players. No alliance could rake in trillions by just stomping pos-attackers with their supercap fleet in their otherwise unused systems.


Yes, so instead of fleet battles alliance income would depend on who can choke a system with the most alts. Truly a brilliant idea, you sound just like you already work at CCP.



now you know atleast why viking empire bought some space from cfc paying with brilliant and world leading ******* technology ;)
Faife
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#265 - 2012-07-19 18:03:34 UTC
Magnifikus Erzverwirrer wrote:
now you know atleast why viking empire bought some space from cfc paying with brilliant and world leading ******* technology ;)


i don't actually have a reply, i just want to quote it before he can edit it.
Khan Noban
Stars in No Sky
Backward Time in a Strange Land
#266 - 2012-07-19 18:06:22 UTC
inb4 teh gooniez cry moar!!111 :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#267 - 2012-07-19 18:08:32 UTC
Blawrf McTaggart wrote:
looking for a new corporation
…I don't know. I think this might be a scam.
Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#268 - 2012-07-19 18:09:37 UTC
Magnifikus Erzverwirrer wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:

...

As if AAA would let its crappy pet alliance keep a tech moon.


check alliance history if you need to smack


You're only as good as your last fight, and well, it doesn't matter what alliance you were in, you are in Engarde, the renter alliance that the other renter alliances make fun of.

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
Magnifikus Erzverwirrer
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
#269 - 2012-07-19 18:10:55 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:
Magnifikus Erzverwirrer wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:

...

As if AAA would let its crappy pet alliance keep a tech moon.


check alliance history if you need to smack


You're only as good as your last fight, and well, it doesn't matter what alliance you were in, you are in Engarde, the renter alliance that the other renter alliances make fun of.


yeah we have enough of pvp, we retired to mining and sanctum chaining ;)
Khan Noban
Stars in No Sky
Backward Time in a Strange Land
#270 - 2012-07-19 18:11:52 UTC
Magnifikus Erzverwirrer wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:
Magnifikus Erzverwirrer wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:

...

As if AAA would let its crappy pet alliance keep a tech moon.


check alliance history if you need to smack


You're only as good as your last fight, and well, it doesn't matter what alliance you were in, you are in Engarde, the renter alliance that the other renter alliances make fun of.


yeah we have enough of pvp, we retired to mining and sanctum chaining ;)


Retired? I'm sure that's all you did before.
Eternal Error
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#271 - 2012-07-19 18:12:24 UTC
Sorry if this has already been answered somewhere, but is there an ETA on Inferno 1.2?
Aryndel Vyst
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#272 - 2012-07-19 18:12:27 UTC
Magnifikus Erzverwirrer wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:
Magnifikus Erzverwirrer wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:

...

As if AAA would let its crappy pet alliance keep a tech moon.


check alliance history if you need to smack


You're only as good as your last fight, and well, it doesn't matter what alliance you were in, you are in Engarde, the renter alliance that the other renter alliances make fun of.


yeah we have enough of pvp, we retired to mining and sanctum chaining ;)


So not only are you irrelevant, you're worthless too. Got it thanks!
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#273 - 2012-07-19 18:13:59 UTC
Magnifikus Erzverwirrer wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:
Magnifikus Erzverwirrer wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:

...

As if AAA would let its crappy pet alliance keep a tech moon.


check alliance history if you need to smack


You're only as good as your last fight, and well, it doesn't matter what alliance you were in, you are in Engarde, the renter alliance that the other renter alliances make fun of.


yeah we have enough of pvp, we retired to mining and sanctum chaining ;)


back when i was in cow i used to farm sanctums in my 3 thanny's... made sick isk that way... too bad mean old darkside had to ruin my nullbear love nest... :(

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#274 - 2012-07-19 18:14:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Lord Zim
Magnifikus Erzverwirrer wrote:
yeah we have enough of pvp, we retired to mining and sanctum chaining ;)

translation: "playing against other people was too exciting, so we went for the most boring activities in the game, instead. :haw:"

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Magnifikus Erzverwirrer
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
#275 - 2012-07-19 18:14:20 UTC
Khan Noban wrote:
Magnifikus Erzverwirrer wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:
Magnifikus Erzverwirrer wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:

...

As if AAA would let its crappy pet alliance keep a tech moon.


check alliance history if you need to smack


You're only as good as your last fight, and well, it doesn't matter what alliance you were in, you are in Engarde, the renter alliance that the other renter alliances make fun of.


yeah we have enough of pvp, we retired to mining and sanctum chaining ;)


Retired? I'm sure that's all you did before.



btw funny to see that renter mining and santum running alliance has more kills this month than elite legion :D (think evekill counts npc kills too)
Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din
Commonwealth Vanguard
#276 - 2012-07-19 18:14:49 UTC
Lilliana Stelles wrote:
Generating elements from other elements?

Cold fusion, or is spacewizard now a viable profession?



Assumably nanotechnology is beyond you. It is theoretically possible to turn anything into anything else.

Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing.
Zapson
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#277 - 2012-07-19 18:16:07 UTC
Nerfing Technetium because *long game design post* actually nerfing Technetium to kick CFC/Honeybadger arses?
Sorry, can't be true, I must be a total tinfoil hat to believe such extraordinary super strange theory which actually could make sense.
Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#278 - 2012-07-19 18:18:13 UTC
Magnifikus Erzverwirrer wrote:



btw funny to see that renter mining and santum running alliance has more kills this month than elite legion :D (think evekill counts npc kills too)

Remember what you always tell Goon, its not quantity that matters, its quality.

You killed a bunch of drakes, we killed lokis tengus and a nyx. Sorry you can't replace them as fast as the drakes get replaced, maybe soon you'll ease up on the straw and get with the program.

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
Terrorfrodo
Interbus Universal
#279 - 2012-07-19 18:18:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Terrorfrodo
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
Terrorfrodo wrote:
Maybe the passive alliance income from moons should be made dependent on player activity. For example, a tech moon will still produce technetium, but the production rate is determined by how many members of the holding alliance are active in the system. A moon in a system where nobody really lives, or where people live who are not members of the moon-owning alliance, would produce less moon goo.

This way there'd still be a strategic incentive for alliances to conquer territory, but the worth of them would be tied to the number and activity of their players. No alliance could rake in trillions by just stomping pos-attackers with their supercap fleet in their otherwise unused systems.


Yes, so instead of fleet battles alliance income would depend on who can choke a system with the most alts. Truly a brilliant idea, you sound just like you already work at CCP.


That's an obvious danger, yes. I was not thinking "logged in alt" when I said "active members". It would have to be real pilots doing real stuff: Mining, ratting, plexing, pvping. If people want to create and pay new accounts just for creating activity... all the better for CCP.

Measuring this kind of activity may not be easy. Or maybe it is. Why not just count number of pilots undocked, outside of pos shields and uncloaked? That way people couldn't just remain logged-in all day doing nothing just to fake activity.

edit: People in shuttles and noob ships wouldn't count either.

.
Magnifikus Erzverwirrer
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
#280 - 2012-07-19 18:21:11 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:
Magnifikus Erzverwirrer wrote:



btw funny to see that renter mining and santum running alliance has more kills this month than elite legion :D (think evekill counts npc kills too)

Remember what you always tell Goon, its not quantity that matters, its quality.

You killed a bunch of drakes, we killed lokis tengus and a nyx. Sorry you can't replace them as fast as the drakes get replaced, maybe soon you'll ease up on the straw and get with the program.


yeah thats why this noobs still killed 100b more ;)

and talking of quality while shadoo fcs drakefleets is kinda ironic :D