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New dev blog: Tech is fine l2p

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EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#181 - 2012-07-19 16:41:08 UTC
let me translate the devblog for you all:

"the entire t2 production system sucks and we hate it and want to rip it out and redo it root and branch. that would take a lot of time, so we are introducing alchemy to stem what those awful goons are doing to you in the meantime"
EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#182 - 2012-07-19 16:41:53 UTC
Hustomte wrote:
Tippia wrote:

In T1 terms, it would be like if you could create Isogen by banging Veldspar and Scordite together really hard, rather than go out and mine Omber. In the end, you just end up with Isogen, and it makes no difference when you build ships from it.


Fozz, can we noobs in highsec PLEASE have alchemy like this! ... Cause right now Caldari space doesn't have access to isogen and zydrine minerals and I am tired of being a low-sec chew-toy to just make T1 frigs.

#AlchemyAllTheThings

let me introduce you to a feature of eve called "buying things on the market"
Terrorfrodo
Interbus Universal
#183 - 2012-07-19 16:42:54 UTC
Great dev blog both content-wise and style-wise Lol

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Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#184 - 2012-07-19 16:43:00 UTC
EvilweaselSA wrote:
let me introduce you to a feature of eve called "buying things on the market"

but that implies spending money, I just want to make things for free!

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat

EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#185 - 2012-07-19 16:43:01 UTC
Dilly Dallyer2 wrote:
This will help a little but does nothing about the remaining static source of isk from Tech that is totaly located in the north. The price of tech will be capped as With Prom and Dysp from the first batch of Alchemy but the prices will remain high.

Out of interest, as you said you have been playing EVE you several years you wouldn't happen to be in the coalition that just concered some of the regions with most of the Cobalt in game would you.

Nothing personal but we're all human and in general humans are the least honest species on the plannet. In the past the big alliances that are friendly with devs, or have devs in them seem to have had crystal balls and been able to gain from updates that the masses (who by the way pay for the game) are not privy to.

there is far too much cobalt in the game to cartel it, and controlling all tech + all cobalt would require us to control half of 0.0 and half of lowsec which is a little absurd
Odracir Atosc
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#186 - 2012-07-19 16:44:31 UTC
Finally !!!
Soto ShinDo
HeroinPixelSpace
#187 - 2012-07-19 16:44:42 UTC
Dilly Dallyer2 wrote:
HurrDurr HerpaDerp


May I point you to my new Tinfoil shop going up shortly in Jita.

20% discount for people buying huge amounts. I think you'll be one of my best customers P
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#188 - 2012-07-19 16:44:42 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Wocka Wocka!

Remember that if you like this change you should hit the "like" button on this post. I need to know if this is the kind of work the community is looking for. ;)


lol so we going to see a special dislike button too so all the Goons can dogpile you? Although after the alchemy system is set in stone I'm sure that it'll end up hurting the little guy while helping the older veterans & the Dislike button then would be removed just like alliance dogpiling was removed as it hurt the Goons Blink
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#189 - 2012-07-19 16:46:02 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
lol so we going to see a special dislike button too so all the Goons can dogpile you?

Yes, we'll dislike it when CCP finally do what we tell them they should've done years ago.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat

Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#190 - 2012-07-19 16:46:09 UTC
Awesome dev blog. I can't wait to see what you choose to do for the collection of "moon goo" in the future!

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.

Hustomte
Veritex Industrial Inc.
#191 - 2012-07-19 16:46:54 UTC
EvilweaselSA wrote:

let me introduce you to a feature of eve called "buying things on the market"


EvilweaselSA = "Buy Tech on the market as well while you're at it, this alchemy thing is silly" ... I see you missed the point of the Devblog and everything else. Blink

...Signature...

Aragnos Katelo
Eagle Delivery Services
#192 - 2012-07-19 16:48:27 UTC
Finally a change towards fixing the imbalanced income up north, maybe while fixing moons you could do something about POS's, their current mechanics are so painfully bad.

Also, with balancing alliance income, how about you fix some of the Null regions which are almost worth not even holding?
Soto ShinDo
HeroinPixelSpace
#193 - 2012-07-19 16:49:13 UTC
Hustomte wrote:
EvilweaselSA wrote:

let me introduce you to a feature of eve called "buying things on the market"


EvilweaselSA = "Buy Tech on the market as well while you're at it, this alchemy thing is silly" ... I see you missed the point of the Devblog and everything else. Blink


OMG ShockedShockedShocked
That much fail in just on post is truely awesome.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#194 - 2012-07-19 16:50:05 UTC
Hustomte wrote:
EvilweaselSA wrote:

let me introduce you to a feature of eve called "buying things on the market"


EvilweaselSA = "Buy Tech on the market as well while you're at it, this alchemy thing is silly" ... I see you missed the point of the Devblog and everything else. Blink

let me introduce you to this concept of "reading quotes". The guy EvilweaselSA was quoting talked about isogen and zydrine, not tech.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat

Soto ShinDo
HeroinPixelSpace
#195 - 2012-07-19 16:51:53 UTC
Aragnos Katelo wrote:

Also, with balancing alliance income, how about you fix some of the Null regions which are almost worth not even holding?


Well, there must be a place for all the fail alliances. If those regions were worth something they'd all be back to empire as somebody just would've roflstomped them already. Pirate
Soto ShinDo
HeroinPixelSpace
#196 - 2012-07-19 16:53:30 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Hustomte wrote:
EvilweaselSA wrote:

let me introduce you to a feature of eve called "buying things on the market"


EvilweaselSA = "Buy Tech on the market as well while you're at it, this alchemy thing is silly" ... I see you missed the point of the Devblog and everything else. Blink

let me introduce you to this concept of "reading quotes". The guy EvilweaselSA was quoting talked about isogen and zydrine, not tech.


You're talking to the guy EvilweaselSA quoted Lol
Rer Eirikr
The Scope
#197 - 2012-07-19 16:55:00 UTC
Hustomte wrote:
EvilweaselSA wrote:

let me introduce you to a feature of eve called "buying things on the market"


EvilweaselSA = "Buy Tech on the market as well while you're at it, this alchemy thing is silly" ... I see you missed the point of the Devblog and everything else. Blink


You *do* realize who you're talking to... right?
EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#198 - 2012-07-19 16:55:07 UTC
Hustomte wrote:
EvilweaselSA wrote:

let me introduce you to a feature of eve called "buying things on the market"


EvilweaselSA = "Buy Tech on the market as well while you're at it, this alchemy thing is silly" ... I see you missed the point of the Devblog and everything else. Blink

boy howdy you're bad at this game

you will still buy tech (well, plat tech) off the market because any efficent production chain relies on division of labor

as a ship manufacturer and miner you would mine what's best for you to mine, sell it for isk, then buy the other minerals you need

anything else is you not understanding what opportunity cost is and being the stereotypical "if i mine it is free" pubbie we all laugh at
EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#199 - 2012-07-19 16:58:42 UTC
seriously we all always laugh at "if i mine it its free" pubbies but its so rare to actually run into one it's always a hoot
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#200 - 2012-07-19 16:59:51 UTC
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