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karaky
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2012-07-18 21:36:11 UTC
Traejun DiSanctis wrote:
Mia Restolo wrote:
*shrug* no tricks required for me, shoot rats, use gate, get supervisors... of course I've only done the mission a few times since the change but always gotten the supervisors.


There's always a supervisor in each "base". It just doesn't always have a high bounty or faction. The prevailing thought is that the ones with bounties over 1M isk have a chance to drop faction. The higher the bounty, the higher the chance. At least that's the prevailing belief right now.


Is this something new then? I know for a fact there wasn't Supervisors there everytime a while ago. The frequency of 1+ Million ISK rats is still quite high. Last time I got the mission and farmed 14 pockets I had 6-7 above 1 Million.
Traejun DiSanctis
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#22 - 2012-07-18 21:48:31 UTC
karaky wrote:
Traejun DiSanctis wrote:
Mia Restolo wrote:
*shrug* no tricks required for me, shoot rats, use gate, get supervisors... of course I've only done the mission a few times since the change but always gotten the supervisors.


There's always a supervisor in each "base". It just doesn't always have a high bounty or faction. The prevailing thought is that the ones with bounties over 1M isk have a chance to drop faction. The higher the bounty, the higher the chance. At least that's the prevailing belief right now.


Is this something new then? I know for a fact there wasn't Supervisors there everytime a while ago. The frequency of 1+ Million ISK rats is still quite high. Last time I got the mission and farmed 14 pockets I had 6-7 above 1 Million.


Yes, now there is a Supervisor in each "base" pocket. They just don't always drop faction or have high bounties. Been this way at least since April.

Back in the day, there was a chance at spawning a faction "Overseer". As I remember, there was a chance to spawn it every time someone warped into the pocket. So you would just get a bunch of people in fast aligning and warping frigs and just keep round-tripping into that pocket. On a long enough timeline, you got the overseer. That spawn ALWAYS dropped faction loot, it was just ammo most of the time (in my experience).

As for 1M isk+ bounty rats. There's plenty. Serpentis seem to have the best ones. Sansha is close behind.
karaky
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2012-07-18 21:52:51 UTC
Traejun DiSanctis wrote:
karaky wrote:
Traejun DiSanctis wrote:
Mia Restolo wrote:
*shrug* no tricks required for me, shoot rats, use gate, get supervisors... of course I've only done the mission a few times since the change but always gotten the supervisors.


There's always a supervisor in each "base". It just doesn't always have a high bounty or faction. The prevailing thought is that the ones with bounties over 1M isk have a chance to drop faction. The higher the bounty, the higher the chance. At least that's the prevailing belief right now.


Is this something new then? I know for a fact there wasn't Supervisors there everytime a while ago. The frequency of 1+ Million ISK rats is still quite high. Last time I got the mission and farmed 14 pockets I had 6-7 above 1 Million.


Yes, now there is a Supervisor in each "base" pocket. They just don't always drop faction or have high bounties. Been this way at least since April.

Back in the day, there was a chance at spawning a faction "Overseer". As I remember, there was a chance to spawn it every time someone warped into the pocket. So you would just get a bunch of people in fast aligning and warping frigs and just keep round-tripping into that pocket. On a long enough timeline, you got the overseer. That spawn ALWAYS dropped faction loot, it was just ammo most of the time (in my experience).

As for 1M isk+ bounty rats. There's plenty. Serpentis seem to have the best ones. Sansha is close behind.


Yes, I referred to 1M ISK+ bounty Supervisors. They have all dropped faction loot for me so far. (Mostly ammo though..)
Traejun DiSanctis
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#24 - 2012-07-18 22:03:40 UTC
karaky wrote:
Traejun DiSanctis wrote:
karaky wrote:
Traejun DiSanctis wrote:
Mia Restolo wrote:
*shrug* no tricks required for me, shoot rats, use gate, get supervisors... of course I've only done the mission a few times since the change but always gotten the supervisors.


There's always a supervisor in each "base". It just doesn't always have a high bounty or faction. The prevailing thought is that the ones with bounties over 1M isk have a chance to drop faction. The higher the bounty, the higher the chance. At least that's the prevailing belief right now.


Is this something new then? I know for a fact there wasn't Supervisors there everytime a while ago. The frequency of 1+ Million ISK rats is still quite high. Last time I got the mission and farmed 14 pockets I had 6-7 above 1 Million.


Yes, now there is a Supervisor in each "base" pocket. They just don't always drop faction or have high bounties. Been this way at least since April.

Back in the day, there was a chance at spawning a faction "Overseer". As I remember, there was a chance to spawn it every time someone warped into the pocket. So you would just get a bunch of people in fast aligning and warping frigs and just keep round-tripping into that pocket. On a long enough timeline, you got the overseer. That spawn ALWAYS dropped faction loot, it was just ammo most of the time (in my experience).

As for 1M isk+ bounty rats. There's plenty. Serpentis seem to have the best ones. Sansha is close behind.


Yes, I referred to 1M ISK+ bounty Supervisors. They have all dropped faction loot for me so far. (Mostly ammo though..)


I had a 3M bounty supervisor drop nothing a couple months back. And by nothing, I mean nothing... not even regular meta mods. FML.
Ditra Vorthran
Caldari Imports and Exports
#25 - 2012-07-19 16:49:53 UTC
Traejun DiSanctis wrote:
I had a 3M bounty supervisor drop nothing a couple months back. And by nothing, I mean nothing... not even regular meta mods. FML.


I've run this mission a few times in the last month or so. Had a supervisor every time. Only once did I get loot from the wreck

"Miners mine so I don't have to." ~Metal Icarus
Traejun DiSanctis
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#26 - 2012-07-19 18:06:22 UTC
Ditra Vorthran wrote:
Traejun DiSanctis wrote:
I had a 3M bounty supervisor drop nothing a couple months back. And by nothing, I mean nothing... not even regular meta mods. FML.


I've run this mission a few times in the last month or so. Had a supervisor every time. Only once did I get loot from the wreck


Yeah, as discussed above, the supervisors are there every time. They're just not worth a damn most of the time. I'm in the same boat as you, most of the time the supervisor drops nothing at all. But, then again, most of the time the supervisor is a lower bounty than some of the regular BS rats in the pocket. Especially true for Serpentis/Guristas WC - The Serpentis BS rats are usually 800k-1.2M isk bounty, supervisor is often in the 500k range. fml.
Miriiah
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2012-07-19 19:15:08 UTC
Some agents don't give out certain missions, ran missions for 2-3 months without getting Worlds Collide, Guristas Spies, Guristas Extrav.

Farmed like 2 million LP without getting any of those 3 missions ever and neither did some friend who ran missions there at some point either.

Petitioned it and explained pretty much what I just said above and got the standard crap reply about "it's random bad luck" etc.

And after 2 million LP it certainly isn't just bad luck, not that I wanted Guristas Spies but the other 2 are better than many of the other caldari agent missions!
Traejun DiSanctis
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#28 - 2012-07-19 20:04:07 UTC
Miriiah wrote:
Some agents don't give out certain missions, ran missions for 2-3 months without getting Worlds Collide, Guristas Spies, Guristas Extrav.

Farmed like 2 million LP without getting any of those 3 missions ever and neither did some friend who ran missions there at some point either.

Petitioned it and explained pretty much what I just said above and got the standard crap reply about "it's random bad luck" etc.

And after 2 million LP it certainly isn't just bad luck, not that I wanted Guristas Spies but the other 2 are better than many of the other caldari agent missions!


Worlds Collide and The Blockade are sought after because of the chance at faction drops. The reality is that the time it takes to clear them vs. the extremely low chance at a valuable faction spawn ends up making them fairly poor missions in terms of isk/hour. I understand why people want them, but I don't think people really stop to think about the practical considerations.

I'll take Gone Berserk, Angels Extravaganza and Damsel in Distress any day over those missions.
Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#29 - 2012-07-20 22:36:57 UTC
Playing for isk/hour is fairly poor.............. just saying
Nuela
WoT Misfits
#30 - 2012-07-21 16:38:29 UTC
Zornia Estemaire wrote:
I have done about 70 lvl 4 missions without getting "Worlds Collide" mission yet. I have about 25 lvl 4 mission agents now. What can I do to increase my chances in getting this mission on a regular time frame?


WC is not the best lvl 4 to run, in my opinion. Don't worry about not getting it.
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