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New dev blog: Tech is fine l2p

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Rer Eirikr
The Scope
#161 - 2012-07-19 16:20:46 UTC
R0ot wrote:
So am I the only one around here that thinks it would just be infinitely easier to randomize the moons again and spread Tech moons around all regions instead of limited to one particular "area".

Good Idea / Bad Idea?


Doublepost spotted! AttentionBlink
Spurty
#162 - 2012-07-19 16:21:45 UTC
Soto ShinDo wrote:
Spurty wrote:
Soto ShinDo wrote:
Spurty wrote:
Jarin Arenos wrote:
Out of curiosity, when was the last time someone actually threatened CFC's tech sov? Like... legitimately, not just trolling.

rabblerabble


LOL - NCDot. member whining about OTEC. Hilarious!


more rabblerabble


You DO realize that your own alliance is part of OTEC? Roll
Why don't you leave it if you don't like it?


Hey Sherlock Holmes has returned!

Wait .. you're not that clever, you must be Dr Watson then.

Yes, sure I should drift around in space shooting NPCs solo in an MMO.

Why don't *you* do something about it and suggest a solution that doesn't involve people having to stop flying with their buddies?

Because, being a dolt on forums is about your level. Observation noted.

There are good ships,

And wood ships,

And ships that sail the sea

But the best ships are Spaceships

Built by CCP

Hakaru Ishiwara
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#163 - 2012-07-19 16:22:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Hakaru Ishiwara
Aprudena Gist wrote:
R0ot wrote:
So am I the only one around here that thinks it would just be infinitely easier to randomize the moons again and spread Tech moons around all regions instead of limited to one particular "area".

Good Idea / Bad Idea?

Yes because scanning every single moon in the game again sounds like good gameplay design.
Why not? If CCP can royally screw over one of the basic features of gameplay with the inventory UI re-do, then why not re-jigger moons? Then CCP can spend the six months following the change acting like heroes fixing what need not be broken in the first place.

+++++++ I have never shed a tear for a fellow EVE player until now. Mark “Seleene” Heard's Blog Honoring Sean "Vile Rat" Smith.

Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#164 - 2012-07-19 16:22:26 UTC
Aprudena Gist wrote:
R0ot wrote:
So am I the only one around here that thinks it would just be infinitely easier to randomize the moons again and spread Tech moons around all regions instead of limited to one particular "area".

Good Idea / Bad Idea?

Yes because scanning every single moon in the game again sounds like good gameplay design.

ooh oooh ooh I know I know I know the solution let's make all moon content rotate every 3 months it'll be awesome and it'll create fights come on guys it'll be awesome

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat

Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc.
Hard Knocks Citizens
#165 - 2012-07-19 16:25:35 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Wocka Wocka!

Remember that if you like this change you should hit the "like" button on this post. I need to know if this is the kind of work the community is looking for. ;)


Attaboy
Soto ShinDo
HeroinPixelSpace
#166 - 2012-07-19 16:27:05 UTC
Spurty wrote:


Yes, sure I should drift around in space shooting NPCs solo in an MMO.


Hypocrisy thy name is spurty. Roll

Spurty wrote:
Why don't *you* do something about it and suggest a solution that doesn't involve people having to stop flying with their buddies?



Why should I? I don't have a problem with OTEC.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#167 - 2012-07-19 16:27:16 UTC
GRIEV3R wrote:
Oh man, OTEC is probably going to QQ pretty hard at this.
QQing over something they've been advocating? That doesn't make much sense…

Quote:
on a semi-related note, wouldn't it be spiffy if, in the real world, if we don't like OPEC having a monopoly on virtually all the oil on Earth, we could just "tweak" the laws of chemistry and physics so anyone can make a replacement for oil in their basement?
We kind of can. It's just not worth the effort, though.
DJ P0N-3
Table Flippendeavors
#168 - 2012-07-19 16:27:18 UTC
Soto ShinDo wrote:
What would be the alchemy reaction for TINFOIL?

Reading the last few pages I could make a fortune in EVE by selling it Lol

edit: typo


100 Popcorn and 100 Player Tears reacts into 1 Unrefined Tinfoil refines into 10 Tinfoil and 95 Popcorn.
Elise Randolph
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#169 - 2012-07-19 16:27:48 UTC
A fantastically written devblog. The dream is to temper the Tech prices and spawn conflict in lowsec like Alchemy 1.0. Here's hoping~

~

EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#170 - 2012-07-19 16:28:22 UTC
Tippia wrote:
EvilweaselSA wrote:
yeah we got the inside scoop on this weeks ago

you know, when soundwave posted it on these forums
Hmm… was that before or after he said it to everyone present (and watching the stream) at fanfest?

before

given his post it was really obvious what was going to happen so we threw preparations for the nerf into high gear (as long as the nerf was ringmining it was a winter-at-the-earliest thing but once they said alchemize everything, well you can do that in an afternoon)
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#171 - 2012-07-19 16:28:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Nicolo da'Vicenza
Yeep wrote:
Yes, because a system where 90% of the population get shat on to finance the fun of the other 10% sounds like a great way to keep people playing. Theres a reason the feudal system almost died out and it has very little to do with Tech.

Actually it's entirely to do with tech. The "traditional system" advocated by the FCON guy that he insists CCP must preserve, minus tech and plus NRDS, would be indistinguishable from the CVA style of coalition management both in appearance and levels of success.
EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#172 - 2012-07-19 16:29:25 UTC
Hakaru Ishiwara wrote:
EvilweaselSA wrote:
Fiberton wrote:
Wait so head of CSM would not give his Alliance an edge by accepting certain persons who use to work for said maker of game into into his alliance for full future intels ? Of course he would not he is TOP legit guy.

yeah we got the inside scoop on this weeks ago

you know, when soundwaffe posted it on the goon high-command forums
Fixed that for you.

our high command, including me, does luv2post on these forums but they're not really our high-command forums given how much navigator likes deleting our posts :smith:
Rer Eirikr
The Scope
#173 - 2012-07-19 16:30:02 UTC
Elise Randolph wrote:
A fantastically written devblog. The dream is to temper the Tech prices and spawn conflict in lowsec like Alchemy 1.0. Here's hoping~


Nope clearly you had insider intel and just want to has all the spacemonies, you bad CSM you.
EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#174 - 2012-07-19 16:30:37 UTC
Elise Randolph wrote:
A fantastically written devblog. The dream is to temper the Tech prices and spawn conflict in lowsec like Alchemy 1.0. Here's hoping~

there's too much cobalt in the game to spawn conflict over it

in two months you will have no trouble finding a free cobalt moon

what fights will be over is systems with a station and a high amount of cobalt moons, since you can then do alchemy en masse and get economics of scale to make it worth doing
Marconus Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#175 - 2012-07-19 16:33:00 UTC
Anyone who names themselves after one of the Muppets is fine by me. Cool
Mechael
Tribal Liberation Distribution and Retail
#176 - 2012-07-19 16:35:36 UTC
Hell, it's about time.

Whether or not you win the game matters not.  It's if you bought it.

Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
#177 - 2012-07-19 16:35:38 UTC
Three years too late if you ask me. Should have been explored in earnest the second PI was released .. speaking of which .. why not add some of the intermediate reaction products to specific planets to buffer supply even further?

It would fit in ever so nicely with player owned POCO's and could be used as very effective way to boost the elephant in the room (ie. Low-sec) with the said specific planets mainly existing in that most wanting yet perpetually ignored area of Eve.
Combine that with a nerf to supers when operating in Empire and you have the makings of epic sub-capital brawls over resources in low as well as null and give fledgling alliances/corps, who are unwilling to accept the ball'n'chain of null slavery, the chance to make their mark (read: low-sec Empires).

Looking forward to steps 2-10 in the war against the great ISK printing machine known as moon-goo (you get extra points for making grown men cry in public!).
EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#178 - 2012-07-19 16:36:49 UTC
Veshta Yoshida wrote:
Three years too late if you ask me. Should have been explored in earnest the second PI was released .. speaking of which .. why not add some of the intermediate reaction products to specific planets to buffer supply even further?

It would fit in ever so nicely with player owned POCO's and could be used as very effective way to boost the elephant in the room (ie. Low-sec) with the said specific planets mainly existing in that most wanting yet perpetually ignored area of Eve.
Combine that with a nerf to supers when operating in Empire and you have the makings of epic sub-capital brawls over resources in low as well as null and give fledgling alliances/corps, who are unwilling to accept the ball'n'chain of null slavery, the chance to make their mark (read: low-sec Empires).

Looking forward to steps 2-10 in the war against the great ISK printing machine known as moon-goo (you get extra points for making grown men cry in public!).

to answer for ccp "because that's a lot of work so it would wait for a content patch"
Dilly Dallyer2
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#179 - 2012-07-19 16:40:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Dilly Dallyer2
This will help a little but does nothing about the remaining static source of isk from Tech that is totaly located in the north. The price of tech will be capped as With Prom and Dysp from the first batch of Alchemy but the prices will remain high.

Out of interest, as you said you have been playing EVE you several years you wouldn't happen to be in the coalition that just concered some of the regions with most of the Cobalt in game would you.

Nothing personal but we're all human and in general humans are the least honest species on the plannet. In the past the big alliances that are friendly with devs, or have devs in them seem to have had crystal balls and been able to gain from updates that the masses (who by the way pay for the game) are not privy to.

In reality there is nothing that you can do to fix the game, this change has come about fat too late, no matter what is done if a new region of space is made very profitable the CFC with thei stupid amounts of isk they have amassed in the Tech "oversight" will just go and take that space,

ALL point sources of isk need to be removed to fix this BUT CCP have already stated they want there to be things for people to fight over so this will never happen.
Hustomte
Veritex Industrial Inc.
#180 - 2012-07-19 16:40:18 UTC
Tippia wrote:

In T1 terms, it would be like if you could create Isogen by banging Veldspar and Scordite together really hard, rather than go out and mine Omber. In the end, you just end up with Isogen, and it makes no difference when you build ships from it.


Fozz, can we noobs in highsec PLEASE have alchemy like this! ... Cause right now Caldari space doesn't have access to isogen and zydrine minerals and I am tired of being a low-sec chew-toy to just make T1 frigs.

#AlchemyAllTheThings

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