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Dev response please! Machariel downsized to 1400 meters is a joke!!!

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Carola Kessler
Lost Sisters Of New Eden
#1 - 2012-07-19 12:42:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Carola Kessler
The Machariel has been downsized to 1400 meters somewhat, smaller then Hyperion and Apocalypse, making it a joke against her reputation beeing the biggest BS within the BS sized ship class in Eve....

Dear CCP devs i beg you to take this back and give the Machariel its former size 1920 Meters, let her be still the biggest BS in Eve with his reputation beeing feared by most of the Eve pilots.

Current size doesn't fits to it really, all which think the Same way like me, please raise your hands and vote for giving the MAch back her old size!!

http://game-craft.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/EVE-ships-subcap-Tyrannis.jpg

PLEASE PLEASE take this Change back!!!

sincerly

Carola Kessler Smile
h4kun4
Banana-Republic.
Shadow Cartel
#2 - 2012-07-19 13:02:30 UTC
The Machariel has to be ithe biggest Subcapital in EVE, everytime I undock with my Mach, I think:
lol watch that small Orca down there...
No but seriously, for me its ridiculous to switch the size of ships every 3 Months...first i was like, omg My maelstrom is 600m long...then i was like, wow its 1500m long, and now you wnat the Maelstrom with 1484m to be longer than a machariel?
That is not how i should be...
Nagarythe Tinurandir
Einheit X-6
#3 - 2012-07-19 13:02:53 UTC
they made minmatar frigs and some cruisers giants.
i doubt they will take back any of this. let's just hope some day the sizes of all ships are consistent.
comparing fighters, fighter bombers and frigs is just... :(
Jerick Ludhowe
Internet Tuff Guys
#4 - 2012-07-19 13:30:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Jerick Ludhowe
Mach was the size of a carrier..... Oh and obviously the fastest and most agile BS should be the largestRoll


If you want to complain about the visuals on the mach how about complain about the fail ass turret placement on the ship...


As for ship size's , I'd say that the hype should be a bit smaller, and the rhok should be a bit bigger. Also all the t3s should be reduced in size by like 20% as they are all significantly larger than any of the races cruisers as well as larger than allot of the races BCs... Lets fix that lack of consistency. I'd also argue that BC's across the board should be increased in size as well, putting them somewhere between cruisers and BS rather than just barley bigger than cruisers.
Carola Kessler
Lost Sisters Of New Eden
#5 - 2012-07-19 14:16:26 UTC
Jerick Ludhowe wrote:
Mach was the size of a carrier..... Oh and obviously the fastest and most agile BS should be the largestRoll





If you look at the design from the Machariel and its original lore beeing a hijacked design from Jove and transformed beeing transformed in a BS from Angel Cartel , maybe the size was cause its original intent beeing a Carrier from the Jovians...who knows.....but just look closer, from the middle of the Machariel could have started the figthers or other Drones.
Jerick Ludhowe
Internet Tuff Guys
#6 - 2012-07-19 14:28:41 UTC
Carola Kessler wrote:
Jerick Ludhowe wrote:
Mach was the size of a carrier..... Oh and obviously the fastest and most agile BS should be the largestRoll





If you look at the design from the Machariel and its original lore beeing a hijacked design from Jove and transformed beeing transformed in a BS from Angel Cartel , maybe the size was cause its original intent beeing a Carrier from the Jovians...who knows.....but just look closer, from the middle of the Machariel could have started the figthers or other Drones.


It's not a carrier, it's a fast agile BS. Being the size of a carrier is foolish period. Considering that this game has a habit of contradicting its own contradictions... saying it should be the size of a carrier because it was based off a jove ship that could have been a carrier seems like a rather epic stretch.
h4kun4
Banana-Republic.
Shadow Cartel
#7 - 2012-07-19 14:35:55 UTC
Normally how large a ship is, is completely unimportant for its agility, the only things that matter are Acceleration (Inertia Modifier) and Mass and because the Mass of the Mach is so low and its Intertia modifier is so low for a ship of its type, it just the most agile one. Its a Highjacked Jove Design, so maybe the Jove take ultra light matrial and super efficient thrusters...so its very possible
I just think taht its a Joke to make a ship smaller after a patch...so you go to sleep, 1912m Machariel, you wake up in the Morning...ship shrinked ti 1400m, omgwtflol how unlogical^^
Carola Kessler
Lost Sisters Of New Eden
#8 - 2012-07-19 15:06:53 UTC
Jerick Ludhowe wrote:
Carola Kessler wrote:
Jerick Ludhowe wrote:
Mach was the size of a carrier..... Oh and obviously the fastest and most agile BS should be the largestRoll





If you look at the design from the Machariel and its original lore beeing a hijacked design from Jove and transformed beeing transformed in a BS from Angel Cartel , maybe the size was cause its original intent beeing a Carrier from the Jovians...who knows.....but just look closer, from the middle of the Machariel could have started the figthers or other Drones.


It's not a carrier, it's a fast agile BS. Being the size of a carrier is foolish period. Considering that this game has a habit of contradicting its own contradictions... saying it should be the size of a carrier because it was based off a jove ship that could have been a carrier seems like a rather epic stretch.



Again seems you're not getting the point...the MAchariel Lorewise was a Hijacked Jove design...as H4 mentioned like me before, which ofcourse implemtents some Jove technics in its design and technical abilities makes the ship one of the agilest and fastes BS within game breaking this background meants breaking its reputation and history so.....according to that its still a joke and your explanations and points are not valid PERIOD.

sincerly

Carola Kessler Smile
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2012-07-19 15:17:30 UTC
The real limitations on the agility of a ship are structural. Larger ships have to turn slower because inertial dampers can't fully compensate for the rotational acceleration of the ship, so the slower turn rate limits the stresses placed on the structure. Supposedly the Machariel would have superior Jovian construction materials and inertial dampers allowing for a significantly more agile ship.

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Junko Sideswipe
Love Squad
#10 - 2012-07-19 15:25:57 UTC
The thing was as big as a carrier, that's silly.

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Carola Kessler
Lost Sisters Of New Eden
#11 - 2012-07-19 15:34:17 UTC
Junko Sideswipe wrote:
The thing was as big as a carrier, that's silly.



*eyerolls* It is a jovian design supposed beeing a Jovian Carrier maybe....but modified by the Angel Cartel working as Battleship.....so ....with Jovian technologie or some content by it stolen like Sanshas allready did why the heck not!! I don't understand your all negative expressions letting the Machariel be the most agile and fastest ship be in Eve according to its price its allready close to a Carrier or Dreadnaugth!!

Sincerly

Carola Kessler Smile
Junko Sideswipe
Love Squad
#12 - 2012-07-19 15:40:57 UTC
Shrink the maelstrom too, you put that thing next to a chimera and you suddenly don't feel like ever wanting a carrier ever again.

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Ogogov
Arpy Corporation
#13 - 2012-07-19 15:43:48 UTC
-1

Shrink all the battleships or properly scale carriers so that they can fit the volume of assembled ships that they are supposed to.

I simply cannot see how a carrier is supposed to be able to fit two assembled BS in the SMA as it stands. It is utterly ridiculous.
Junko Sideswipe
Love Squad
#14 - 2012-07-19 15:50:51 UTC
Ogogov wrote:

I simply cannot see how a carrier is supposed to be able to fit two assembled BS in the SMA as it stands. It is utterly ridiculous.


It's like that scene in the transformers movie, where they get to the giant cube thing, and they shrink it down to the tiny cube.

PIZZA CEO
Jerick Ludhowe
Internet Tuff Guys
#15 - 2012-07-19 16:06:33 UTC
Carola Kessler wrote:
Jerick Ludhowe wrote:
Carola Kessler wrote:
Jerick Ludhowe wrote:
Mach was the size of a carrier..... Oh and obviously the fastest and most agile BS should be the largestRoll





If you look at the design from the Machariel and its original lore beeing a hijacked design from Jove and transformed beeing transformed in a BS from Angel Cartel , maybe the size was cause its original intent beeing a Carrier from the Jovians...who knows.....but just look closer, from the middle of the Machariel could have started the figthers or other Drones.


It's not a carrier, it's a fast agile BS. Being the size of a carrier is foolish period. Considering that this game has a habit of contradicting its own contradictions... saying it should be the size of a carrier because it was based off a jove ship that could have been a carrier seems like a rather epic stretch.



Again seems you're not getting the point...the MAchariel Lorewise was a Hijacked Jove design...as H4 mentioned like me before, which ofcourse implemtents some Jove technics in its design and technical abilities makes the ship one of the agilest and fastes BS within game breaking this background meants breaking its reputation and history so.....according to that its still a joke and your explanations and points are not valid PERIOD.

sincerly

Carola Kessler Smile


No i get your point, i just think it's mongaloidish as lore has been contradicted so many times it's not even remotely a good argument to stand on. As for the whole carrier thing, keep grasping at straws... The ship looks nothing like a carrier, acts nothing like a carrier... Only similarity was the machs ludacris size... Now that's changing so give the whole "carrier" thing a rest.

Furthermore, if you consider a small change of size to 1 ship that makes it look far less ridiculous "game breaking" then your opinion is by default null and void to begin with.
Aglais
Ice-Storm
#16 - 2012-07-19 16:20:37 UTC
I only support this if the Rifter goes down to 90 meters, the Dram goes to 80, and the Cynabal goes to 450.

As well as fixing the glaring inconsistencies between Hawk, Harpy, Worm and Merlin. The latter two sit at 97 meter long axes, whereas the former two somehow are 88. They're supposed to be based on the same hull.
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#17 - 2012-07-19 21:51:14 UTC
I don't care how Jove that thing was, ti was oversized D:

On the other hand I love her make-over.

The Drake is a Lie
nat longshot
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2012-07-20 00:53:35 UTC
now that ccp has deside to let me speak once again. one the mach was to large was a pain getting hung up and accl gate and other stuff in mission. it need to be resized it still a large ship.

As for the new paint/V3 i love it.

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Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-07-20 03:20:08 UTC
this change is good and long needed.
mach is the fastest, most agile BS with the smallest sig and yet it is 1.5x the size of other BSs....
yeah, THAT makes sense...

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MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2012-07-20 05:38:31 UTC  |  Edited by: MotherMoon
Junko Sideswipe wrote:
Shrink the maelstrom too, you put that thing next to a chimera and you suddenly don't feel like ever wanting a carrier ever again.


THIS

also wtf carriers are WAY to small.

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg
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