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New dev blog: Tech is fine l2p

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Kyle Ward
Doomheim
#41 - 2012-07-19 14:37:33 UTC
Nominating for best devBlog Title of the year.

The Sandbox, you're playing it wrong!
Vile rat
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#42 - 2012-07-19 14:39:30 UTC
Looks like we might have to scale back our Machariel reimbursements slightly!
Demption
Yeet or Be Yeeten
#43 - 2012-07-19 14:40:58 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Remember that if you like this change you should hit the "like" button on this post. I need to know if this is the kind of work the community is looking for. ;)

How are you going to find out if people dislike it though, there's no dislike button.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#44 - 2012-07-19 14:41:30 UTC
Katrina Bekers wrote:
Cobalt already skyrocketed. Jita is dry. Time to change the reaction components, CCP...

Please, please, please! This! It would be hilarious! Big smile
Lilliana Stelles
#45 - 2012-07-19 14:41:35 UTC
Another missed chance to invest thanks to being at work =/.

Not a forum alt. 
Gumpy Nighthawk
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#46 - 2012-07-19 14:42:27 UTC
Quote:
Ahahaha just kidding moongoo is completely broken and we’re going to fix that starting in Inferno 1.2.


No you won't, just like alchemy was supposed to be the holy grail, as you guys tried to tell us, it never really was.

Also if this means that you guys are going to manipulate the market then well you might as well remove the complete economy.....
saaraa
The Fated
#47 - 2012-07-19 14:44:24 UTC
mercuryyy wrote:
If the numbers in the blog are real

--
100 Cobalt and 100 Platinum
reacts into
1 Unrefined Platinum Technite
refines into
10 Platinum Technite
and
95 Platinum
-

you basically use 100 Cobalt and 5 Platinum to get just 10 Platinum Technite per reaction cycle (= POS Cycle = 1 hour, i take it).
At current values, you would be loosing money not only on the pure reaction, but also on the fuel needed for that reactor/refineries bzw refining taxes etc.
To break even, the Tech Price (and with that the Platinum Technite price) would have to at least rise by 500% to make it worthwile to do this alchemy reaction.. This surely isnt a way to force prices down, if thats at all necessary.



100 cobalt = 78,000
5 platinum = 10.000 = 10 platinum technite = 88.000 = 8.800 pu without fuels
on a large tower u can place 2 reactors with silos so 20 platium technite pr hr.
Running cost for a large pos is aprox 900.000 pr hr so u add about 45.000 to price pu

8.800 + 45.000 gives us about 53.000 wich is much better then current price...

Another idea is to add a alchemy reactors with much less cpu use so fuels doesnt effect the price in such a large scale

my 2 isk...
Magic Crisp
Amarrian Micro Devices
#48 - 2012-07-19 14:44:29 UTC
I like it, though i think a lot more variance should be available. People can still poke around with multiple mats, manipulate them. Making alternatives even with alchemy would be better addressing future manipulations, i think.

and there should be some kind of reaction for all mats. Currently technetium itself is not a catalyzator for anything, which also should be.

otherwise it sounds fun :)
Cathrine Kenchov
Ice Cold Ellites
#49 - 2012-07-19 14:44:53 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
We have a lot of data about what happens when you release 20/1 alchemy, so we started there.


You should release a skill, or a exploration drop that reduces the ratio. Suddenly more buff to exploration!
Illectroculus Defined
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#50 - 2012-07-19 14:46:02 UTC
Good thing that I rushed through that OTEC commercial while it was still relevant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSsTxJCyCpM
CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
#51 - 2012-07-19 14:46:41 UTC
Gumpy Nighthawk wrote:
Quote:
Ahahaha just kidding moongoo is completely broken and we’re going to fix that starting in Inferno 1.2.


No you won't, just like alchemy was supposed to be the holy grail, as you guys tried to tell us, it never really was.


I completely agree that alchemy is no holy grail. It is simply a start to the process.

Alchemy has the dual benefits of being quick enough to implement right away and having a moderating influence on the market that will make phase two much easier and safer for the eve economy.

Game Designer | Team Five-0

Twitter: @CCP_Fozzie
Twitch chat: ccp_fozzie
Djakku
U Subbed M8
#52 - 2012-07-19 14:47:06 UTC
CCP is it true that Thulium is gonna be a major component in constructing DUST 514 items? I heard it is!
Mikron Alexarr
New Age Solutions
#53 - 2012-07-19 14:48:02 UTC
Fozzie, I don't know you yet, but my first impression is excellent ^.^ Keep up the good work. Thank you for not being that dev we the players have to say, "l2p tech is broken" to :)

I also approve of your presentation style %10000. Welcome.
Cahvus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#54 - 2012-07-19 14:48:05 UTC
Didn't even wait to get home from work to like this! Congrats on the first dev blog Fozzie and keep up the good work! Look forward to hearing more from you in the future.

PS give the dev responsible for live community events a friendly syringe full of adreniline for me! We need more of those awesome events!
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#55 - 2012-07-19 14:48:49 UTC
Illectroculus Defined wrote:
Good thing that I rushed through that OTEC commercial while it was still relevant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSsTxJCyCpM
To be fair, now it actually makes sense: buy genuine OTEC-brand tech rather than this horrible synthetic ersatz stuff. Blink
Gilbaron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#56 - 2012-07-19 14:49:28 UTC
interesting changes, i would love to hear more about the grand scheme of things Big smile
CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#57 - 2012-07-19 14:49:48 UTC
Cahvus wrote:
Didn't even wait to get home from work to like this! Congrats on the first dev blog Fozzie and keep up the good work! Look forward to hearing more from you in the future.

PS give the dev responsible for live community events a friendly syringe full of adreniline for me! We need more of those awesome events!


NO ADRENALINE! Shocked

Noted though. I want to get some going too, and we are working on some cool ideas.

Fozzie - great first devblog! Also excellent likewhoring Roll

CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath
Xenermorph
Cutting Edge Incorporated
#58 - 2012-07-19 14:50:19 UTC
Cobalt is the new technetium.

Jita literally just ran out of cobalt because of this post.

CCP, messing with markets since '97.
Elecktra Blue
Perkone
Caldari State
#59 - 2012-07-19 14:50:48 UTC
"The end goal is for the materials for tech two production to come from player activities that require group gameplay and risk taking, and that provide appropriate rewards."

Yes not like a group of players took the time to grind sov, place towers, keep up the logistics of said towers, and defended them.

Miniluv Minister
Nevigrofnu Mrots
Goonswarm Federation
#60 - 2012-07-19 14:51:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Nevigrofnu Mrots
cobalt moons:

Period Basis 163
Querious 358

its like we had a vision...

so we just conquered the new tec lands, lol

thanks CPP

PS: Catch 434... NEXT

Big smile