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Minmatar vs. Amarr PLEX
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Agent Type
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2012-07-19 00:55:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Agent Type
Hey there,

So as you can see from my corp ticker I am a member of the Amarr militia. Ever since Minmatar managed to hit T5 for the first time I have also had a Minmatar alt farming PLEX to help me earn some extra cash.

On this character, Agent Type, I was fairly quickly able to speed tank and PLEX against the Minmatar militia. I could do Majors, Compounds, Minor Strongholds - anything. Now, after creating my alt on the Minmatar militia I have trained him up to roughly the same skill level (maybe lvl III in some capacitor skills) and I am using nearly the exact same ship (two differences being Damage Control II and Nanofiber II on this character, Meta 4 on the other character)

Despite this, the character in the Minmatar militia cannot even come CLOSE to doing the same PLEX as my Amarr character. Majors should never be attempted, even Minor Strongholds are too much for my Minmatar character to handle. Now, he is not doing Amarr PLEX, he is doing Caldari (since there are way more systems), but I do not understand the huge difference in difficulty between PLEX. What is causing this?

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Edit: I should say, I'm training up my alt for an Incursus anyway, so in a day or two it won't matter, but I would still like to understand the difference.
Suqq Madiq
#2 - 2012-07-19 04:48:45 UTC
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Dan Carter Murray
#3 - 2012-07-19 05:04:24 UTC
Agent Type wrote:
Hey there,

So as you can see from my corp ticker I am a member of the Amarr militia. Ever since Minmatar managed to hit T5 for the first time I have also had a Minmatar alt farming PLEX to help me earn some extra cash.

On this character, Agent Type, I was fairly quickly able to speed tank and PLEX against the Minmatar militia. I could do Majors, Compounds, Minor Strongholds - anything. Now, after creating my alt on the Minmatar militia I have trained him up to roughly the same skill level (maybe lvl III in some capacitor skills) and I am using nearly the exact same ship (two differences being Damage Control II and Nanofiber II on this character, Meta 4 on the other character)

Despite this, the character in the Minmatar militia cannot even come CLOSE to doing the same PLEX as my Amarr character. Majors should never be attempted, even Minor Strongholds are too much for my Minmatar character to handle. Now, he is not doing Amarr PLEX, he is doing Caldari (since there are way more systems), but I do not understand the huge difference in difficulty between PLEX. What is causing this?

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Edit: I should say, I'm training up my alt for an Incursus anyway, so in a day or two it won't matter, but I would still like to understand the difference.


the main issue is that you need to do this: http://i.imgur.com/FIIUH.png

why? because you're full of s*it

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Aurora RedNova
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-07-19 14:32:50 UTC
Sorry but EVERYBODY knows that Caldari and Minmatar Plexes are a LOT harder than Galente and Amarr.
Agent Type
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2012-07-19 15:04:12 UTC
Aurora RedNova wrote:
Sorry but EVERYBODY knows that Caldari and Minmatar Plexes are a LOT harder than Galente and Amarr.


Except me I suppose. Guess I'll just enjoy my shiny new Incursus. Thanks for the help!
Equus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-07-19 16:21:49 UTC
Agent Type wrote:
Hey there,

So as you can see from my corp ticker I am a member of the Amarr militia. Ever since Minmatar managed to hit T5 for the first time I have also had a Minmatar alt farming PLEX to help me earn some extra cash.

On this character, Agent Type, I was fairly quickly able to speed tank and PLEX against the Minmatar militia. I could do Majors, Compounds, Minor Strongholds - anything. Now, after creating my alt on the Minmatar militia I have trained him up to roughly the same skill level (maybe lvl III in some capacitor skills) and I am using nearly the exact same ship (two differences being Damage Control II and Nanofiber II on this character, Meta 4 on the other character)

Despite this, the character in the Minmatar militia cannot even come CLOSE to doing the same PLEX as my Amarr character. Majors should never be attempted, even Minor Strongholds are too much for my Minmatar character to handle. Now, he is not doing Amarr PLEX, he is doing Caldari (since there are way more systems), but I do not understand the huge difference in difficulty between PLEX. What is causing this?

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Edit: I should say, I'm training up my alt for an Incursus anyway, so in a day or two it won't matter, but I would still like to understand the difference.


People like you make me wish I could pop my own militia, well I can, but I don't like that standing hit. Farming alts are a waste of space.
Peteris G
Ophidia in herba
#7 - 2012-07-19 16:27:20 UTC
Agent Type
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2012-07-19 16:56:09 UTC
Equus wrote:
Agent Type wrote:
Hey there,

So as you can see from my corp ticker I am a member of the Amarr militia. Ever since Minmatar managed to hit T5 for the first time I have also had a Minmatar alt farming PLEX to help me earn some extra cash.

On this character, Agent Type, I was fairly quickly able to speed tank and PLEX against the Minmatar militia. I could do Majors, Compounds, Minor Strongholds - anything. Now, after creating my alt on the Minmatar militia I have trained him up to roughly the same skill level (maybe lvl III in some capacitor skills) and I am using nearly the exact same ship (two differences being Damage Control II and Nanofiber II on this character, Meta 4 on the other character)

Despite this, the character in the Minmatar militia cannot even come CLOSE to doing the same PLEX as my Amarr character. Majors should never be attempted, even Minor Strongholds are too much for my Minmatar character to handle. Now, he is not doing Amarr PLEX, he is doing Caldari (since there are way more systems), but I do not understand the huge difference in difficulty between PLEX. What is causing this?

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Edit: I should say, I'm training up my alt for an Incursus anyway, so in a day or two it won't matter, but I would still like to understand the difference.


People like you make me wish I could pop my own militia, well I can, but I don't like that standing hit. Farming alts are a waste of space.


Are you kidding me?

I enjoy farming PLEX and earning huge amount of ISK from them. I also enjoy my bros in Fweddit and ******* up Minmatar militia. The fact that I do not have to choose which one I have to do is absolutely brilliant. I really have no idea why anyone would not have an alt in Minmatar militia, ESPECIALLY as a player in Amarr FW. Unless of course you already a billionaire.. but even then you can never have enough ISK.
Equus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-07-19 17:24:20 UTC
Agent Type wrote:
Equus wrote:
Agent Type wrote:
Hey there,

So as you can see from my corp ticker I am a member of the Amarr militia. Ever since Minmatar managed to hit T5 for the first time I have also had a Minmatar alt farming PLEX to help me earn some extra cash.

On this character, Agent Type, I was fairly quickly able to speed tank and PLEX against the Minmatar militia. I could do Majors, Compounds, Minor Strongholds - anything. Now, after creating my alt on the Minmatar militia I have trained him up to roughly the same skill level (maybe lvl III in some capacitor skills) and I am using nearly the exact same ship (two differences being Damage Control II and Nanofiber II on this character, Meta 4 on the other character)

Despite this, the character in the Minmatar militia cannot even come CLOSE to doing the same PLEX as my Amarr character. Majors should never be attempted, even Minor Strongholds are too much for my Minmatar character to handle. Now, he is not doing Amarr PLEX, he is doing Caldari (since there are way more systems), but I do not understand the huge difference in difficulty between PLEX. What is causing this?

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Edit: I should say, I'm training up my alt for an Incursus anyway, so in a day or two it won't matter, but I would still like to understand the difference.


People like you make me wish I could pop my own militia, well I can, but I don't like that standing hit. Farming alts are a waste of space.


Are you kidding me?

I enjoy farming PLEX and earning huge amount of ISK from them. I also enjoy my bros in Fweddit and ******* up Minmatar militia. The fact that I do not have to choose which one I have to do is absolutely brilliant. I really have no idea why anyone would not have an alt in Minmatar militia, ESPECIALLY as a player in Amarr FW. Unless of course you already a billionaire.. but even then you can never have enough ISK.


But that there is the problem, you should have to pull your weight a little get your hands on those loyalty points, and no, fitting a fast ship and orbiting a button is not pulling your weight.
Thomas Kreshant
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2012-07-19 17:28:47 UTC
Equus wrote:

But that there is the problem, you should have to pull your weight a little get your hands on those loyalty points, and no, fitting a fast ship and orbiting a button is not pulling your weight.


Terribly old fashioned point of view matey.. FW is the new incursion and milking it while you can is the plan..

lolpvp is exactly that and can wait.
Suqq Madiq
#11 - 2012-07-19 17:47:06 UTC
Thomas Kreshant wrote:
Equus wrote:

But that there is the problem, you should have to pull your weight a little get your hands on those loyalty points, and no, fitting a fast ship and orbiting a button is not pulling your weight.


Terribly old fashioned point of view matey.. FW is the new incursion and milking it while you can is the plan..

lolpvp is exactly that and can wait.


Here. You dropped this.
Thomas Kreshant
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2012-07-19 17:48:20 UTC
Suqq Madiq wrote:
Thomas Kreshant wrote:
Equus wrote:

But that there is the problem, you should have to pull your weight a little get your hands on those loyalty points, and no, fitting a fast ship and orbiting a button is not pulling your weight.


Terribly old fashioned point of view matey.. FW is the new incursion and milking it while you can is the plan..

lolpvp is exactly that and can wait.


Here. You dropped this.


lol thx I wondered where I left it Big smile
Agent Type
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2012-07-19 17:56:43 UTC
Equus wrote:
Agent Type wrote:
Equus wrote:
Agent Type wrote:
Hey there,

So as you can see from my corp ticker I am a member of the Amarr militia. Ever since Minmatar managed to hit T5 for the first time I have also had a Minmatar alt farming PLEX to help me earn some extra cash.

On this character, Agent Type, I was fairly quickly able to speed tank and PLEX against the Minmatar militia. I could do Majors, Compounds, Minor Strongholds - anything. Now, after creating my alt on the Minmatar militia I have trained him up to roughly the same skill level (maybe lvl III in some capacitor skills) and I am using nearly the exact same ship (two differences being Damage Control II and Nanofiber II on this character, Meta 4 on the other character)

Despite this, the character in the Minmatar militia cannot even come CLOSE to doing the same PLEX as my Amarr character. Majors should never be attempted, even Minor Strongholds are too much for my Minmatar character to handle. Now, he is not doing Amarr PLEX, he is doing Caldari (since there are way more systems), but I do not understand the huge difference in difficulty between PLEX. What is causing this?

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Edit: I should say, I'm training up my alt for an Incursus anyway, so in a day or two it won't matter, but I would still like to understand the difference.


People like you make me wish I could pop my own militia, well I can, but I don't like that standing hit. Farming alts are a waste of space.


Are you kidding me?

I enjoy farming PLEX and earning huge amount of ISK from them. I also enjoy my bros in Fweddit and ******* up Minmatar militia. The fact that I do not have to choose which one I have to do is absolutely brilliant. I really have no idea why anyone would not have an alt in Minmatar militia, ESPECIALLY as a player in Amarr FW. Unless of course you already a billionaire.. but even then you can never have enough ISK.


But that there is the problem, you should have to pull your weight a little get your hands on those loyalty points, and no, fitting a fast ship and orbiting a button is not pulling your weight.


Never claimed I was pulling my weight. Simply taking advantage of well-known mechanics before they are fixed by CCP and making boat loads of ISK. If you're not because of some misguided sense of "e-honor" then yikes.
Airto TLA
Acorn's Wonder Bars
#14 - 2012-07-19 18:09:33 UTC
Not to be a snot, but some times wondered if players like the OP were banned, if the game would be better.

So many people try so hard to win the META game, they forget all about the GAME.
Agent Type
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2012-07-19 18:51:05 UTC
Airto TLA wrote:
Not to be a snot, but some times wondered if players like the OP were banned, if the game would be better.

So many people try so hard to win the META game, they forget all about the GAME.


What?

I'm playing the game the way I want - not the way you feel I should play it.

I am trying to earn ISK the easiest way I know, while it is available, so that I am able to have more fun blowing up ships and upgrading what I am currently flying.
Mutnin
SQUIDS.
#16 - 2012-07-19 19:28:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Mutnin
Agent Type wrote:
Airto TLA wrote:
Not to be a snot, but some times wondered if players like the OP were banned, if the game would be better.

So many people try so hard to win the META game, they forget all about the GAME.


What?

I'm playing the game the way I want - not the way you feel I should play it.

I am trying to earn ISK the easiest way I know, while it is available, so that I am able to have more fun blowing up ships and upgrading what I am currently flying.


This is why Amarr is in the state it is today.. Instead of trying to work your way out of the situation you are in and try to win you guys just roll over and do nothing to help your Militia.

Instead you also put alts in the opposing Militia and now tell us you are farming Caldari plexes because you are too lazy to figure out how to do Minmatar plexes. At the very least you could have just stuck your alt in Caldari instead of Minmatar. Instead you are too lazy to even do that.

I realize you are too lazy or just too dumb to figure it out, but a 3 day old alt in a Arti Thrasher can run any minor plex in the game including Minmatar. Merlins & Incursus can do their Meds.. Meaning you can run plexes for Amarr it's just you are too useless to put the effort in taking back systems to make your LP worthwhile.
Agent Type
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2012-07-19 19:33:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Agent Type
Mutnin wrote:
Agent Type wrote:
Airto TLA wrote:
Not to be a snot, but some times wondered if players like the OP were banned, if the game would be better.

So many people try so hard to win the META game, they forget all about the GAME.


What?

I'm playing the game the way I want - not the way you feel I should play it.

I am trying to earn ISK the easiest way I know, while it is available, so that I am able to have more fun blowing up ships and upgrading what I am currently flying.


This is why Amarr is in the state it is today.. Instead of trying to work your way out of the situation you are in and try to win you guys just roll over and do nothing to help your Militia.

Instead you also put alts in the opposing Militia and now tell us you are farming Caldari plexes because you are too lazy to figure out how to do Minmatar plexes. At the very least you could have just stuck your alt in Caldari instead of Minmatar. Instead you are too lazy to even do that.

I realize you are too lazy or just too dumb to figure it out, but a 3 day old alt in a Arti Thrasher can run any minor plex in the game including Minmatar. Merlins & Incursus can do their Meds.. Meaning you can run plexes for Amarr it's just you are too useless to put the effort in taking back systems to make your LP worthwhile.


Alright, I'm going to try one more civil response before I'm done with this thread.


Where did I ever say that I stopped doing PLEX on my Amarr characters? The answer is no where. I still run PLEX on my Amarr characters.

Second, did you know that you can run PLEX in a system that is already vulnerable? Since damn near every Caldari system already is vulnerable, its pretty damn easy.

So, not only am I still helping my own faction by blowing up Minmatar and taking their PLEX, I am not hurting my allied faction by doing PLEX in systems that are already vulnerable.

There is so much hostility in this thread it is insane.
Mutnin
SQUIDS.
#18 - 2012-07-19 19:36:33 UTC
Agent Type wrote:


Umad?


You fail at EVE, why should I be mad?