EVE General Discussion

I have a petition which was filed on July 1st.
I did the Certificate Missions for the three Amarr Solar Systems described in the official Eve wiki on Datacentres.
I received no standings increases per the wiki.
Furthermore theere was a minor glitch with the Minmatar one in that one of the signed certificates was not consumed.
The GM who eventually researched this, GM *snip* (who took it overr from GM *snip*) actually found that only one facton and it's corps had standing changes (positive ones), which he reversed out!! WTF!!!! Despite me asking him repeatedly to document in the petition what he did - with numbers for the faction/corps, it has fallen on deaf ears.
He is giving me no option other than to redo missions. I'm paying for monthly subscription. Sounds like I'm paying to be a damned tester.
To resolve this satisfactorily I want the standings transactions added and not redo missions.
If I do redo - offer some form of compensation. An extra day to subscription renewal to go to other side of space and redo the msssions. A generous amount of ISK or something. After all there are far more lucrative missions I could now be running close to hand where I am.
Please someone review this case. I've asked for the petition to be handed over to a more senior GM, but it's just sat there, with no action being taken. Totally unacceptable.
The clock is ticking and I am trying to improve my Minmatar standings to run their Epic Arc. I need the extra bit of Amarr standings boost so I don't have to divert training to something like Diplomacy/Connections 5.
We need a standings fix program ASAP that a GM can run. Look at Rules Engines devs - so GM's can calculate standings changes manually if need be. Or have code modularly written so mainline code and patch program can share it!

Sorry, but it´s not allowed to post the names of the GM´s who dealed with your petition.
I´ve fixed this small point for you.

ISD Dosnix

As Destination SkillQueue said:

Escalate the Petition to a senior GM...
Posting on the Forum is not a good idea.
I wish/hope your problem will get fixed soon...

Have a nice day
ISD Dosnix

Well first of all, GL on your petition. But posting on the forums isnt going to get it sorted faster, and CCP isn't know to hand out ISK based on the argument "I could be doing something more profitable now" and im pretty sure CCP doesn't give out extra subscription, ever, and if they do they wont bother with something as trivial as a day more

Is there a way of doing this without requesting it of the GM in question? Only he is just sitting on it and doing jack ****!
Only, I heard you weren't supposed to raise duplicate petitions.

Well the GM has confirmed and agreed that something definitely went awry, so there is nothing to 'assume' . It's a fact.
And, yes. I am a new player myself.
When the GM tells me to redo stuff I've already done., those immortal words Al Pacino utters in H.E.A.T are ringing in my ears "Don't waste my mother f*ing time!"
CCP is providing a paid service right? If there is admittance of an error , good customer service would mean doing right by the person.

I'm thinking, sh*t, this guy is still trying to discredit my words.
Well seeing as you can't attach screenshots to forum posts, it's kind of hard to substantiate stuff.
So, I took another approach and Googled it on the term 'eve choonka' - one of the Agents you deal with around the time of doing the circle Agent repair plan for Amarr - per the official Eve wiki. Guess what. Someone else has a similar issue.:
http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=800614
Still a 'doubting Thomas' now?
Please give people the benefit of the doubt, before jumping to conclusions.
My beef is I did not get the standings increases documented on the wiki page and wasted valuable time not achieving the specific target I was aiming for.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Data_Centers#Amarr_Empire_and_Ammatar_Mandate

Happy to to announce that a more senior GM did finally add a day to subscription renewal.
He indicated that the missions I did have standings incresses, but they appear to be Agents for the Khanid/Ammatar factions.
Not the Amarr as the wiki indicated. Which had been the whole point of doing missions, as my Amarr standings had waned the most.
Still no wiser as to the specific quantifiable numbers in standings original guy took off and were purportedly added back again, despite asking for it to be documented though.

I'm glad your issue was resolved, and more importantly a minor inconsistancy in the Wiki was revealed... which will cause less confusion for other players.

Interesting twist to the thread.

Tech II BPO's can be purchased by anyone, and often can be found for sale.
Production rate from Tech II BPO's is very, very low compared to what can be done in the invention system. You can churn out a few items each month and make a bit higher profit per item, but in no way can the output of a Tech II BPO match the volume and overall profits possible through invention (although they do serve to help keep prices from skyrocketing). They certainly are not in the same league as the revenue generated by running level 4 missions or Incursions.


The old training skills were removed due to demand from newer players, and all stats were boosted to the point where all players have (in essence) the equivalent of level 5 training skills by default. Implants aside, we all train as if we had devoted the time into maxing out training skills.

The old timers only have two advantages over newer players.

First they can do a wider variety of things than a newer player, but thanks to the level 5 cap on all skills they really can't do any of those things (skill wise) "better" than a newer player.

Second, and most importantly, they have the benefit of actual experience in the best ways to play game... and likely better connections with a wider variety of players. Both of which are "advantages" that rightfully SHOULD come with having played the game longer, since they are not advantages granted artificially granted by the rule set of the game... and in both cases are not automatically gained. Yes, there are many older players who play like noobs and also completely fail at working with others to attain their goals.

Bottom line, your success or failure in this game is solely dependent on you... not anything or anyone else. Attempts to blame any setbacks you may experience on other players or game mechanics is simply mental masturbati0n.