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Afk mining - What exactly is there to do while mining?
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Pipa Porto
#101 - 2012-07-19 05:14:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Pipa Porto
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Who is forcing you to mine? And is that the same person forcing you to use a Hulk?

You seem to be confusing your free choice to mine with someone forcing you to do so.


Have you ever tried to build a freighter by using only reprocessed mission loot?
Do you know how many units of tritanium you need to build a freighter?


No I have not. That would be kind of silly. It would be a kind of oddly impressive accomplishment though.
Yes, I do. About 102m units (ME5 Charon BPC). You can buy that amount in Jita off of sell orders for a little under 700m (though you're not likely to make much money if you buy minerals off of sell orders instead of setting up buy orders).

That said, I don't see how this is at all relevant to your refusal to explain who's forcing you to mine and why they also want you in a Hulk.

Oh, and where did I say:
Jorma Morkkis wrote:

First you say hisec miners and mission runners just print isk and don't do anything creative. And it's obviously bad for game.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#102 - 2012-07-19 05:29:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Jorma Morkkis
Pipa Porto wrote:
That said, I don't see how this is at all relevant to your refusal to explain who's forcing you to mine and why they also want you in a Hulk.


It takes around 5 months of mission running to get enough tritanium for Charon if you run missions 6 hours a day and loot everything. Guess how long it takes in Hulk? Want to guess how long it takes in Rifter?

Pipa Porto wrote:
Oh, and where did I say:
Jorma Morkkis wrote:

First you say hisec miners and mission runners just print isk and don't do anything creative. And it's obviously bad for game.


Not you, nullbears.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=101626
Pipa Porto
#103 - 2012-07-19 05:41:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Pipa Porto
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
That said, I don't see how this is at all relevant to your refusal to explain who's forcing you to mine and why they also want you in a Hulk.


It takes around 5 months of mission running to get enough tritanium for Charon if you run missions 6 hours a day and loot everything. Guess how long it takes in Hulk? Want to guess how long it takes in Rifter?


During that 5 months running missions for 6 hours a day, you will, conservatively, make 45 Billion ISK. Surely you can spend some of that on 700m Isk worth of Trit from Jita.

You still haven't shown how anyone's forcing you to mine, let alone forcing you to use a Hulk.

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Pipa Porto wrote:
Oh, and where did I say:
Jorma Morkkis wrote:

First you say hisec miners and mission runners just print isk and don't do anything creative. And it's obviously bad for game.


Not you, nullbears.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=101626


Ah, so when you said "You say Hisec Miners and Mission Runners just print Isk and don't do anything creative" in response to one of my posts, you were lying. Ok. Fair enough.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#104 - 2012-07-19 05:48:15 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
During that 5 months running missions for 6 hours a day, you will, conservatively, make 45 Billion ISK. Surely you can spend some of that on 700m Isk worth of Trit from Jita.

You still haven't shown how anyone's forcing you to mine, let alone forcing you to use a Hulk.


50M/hr is not possible. I've managed 28M/hr and that's only with very good missions. Doesn't happen often.
Pipa Porto
#105 - 2012-07-19 05:59:48 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
During that 5 months running missions for 6 hours a day, you will, conservatively, make 45 Billion ISK. Surely you can spend some of that on 700m Isk worth of Trit from Jita.

You still haven't shown how anyone's forcing you to mine, let alone forcing you to use a Hulk.


50M/hr is not possible. I've managed 28M/hr and that's only with very good missions. Doesn't happen often.


Then you're not counting something or you're doing something silly like going back to loot and salvage... Oh, wait...

Anyway, how is this relevant to who's forcing you to mine, let alone forcing you to use a Hulk?

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#106 - 2012-07-19 06:05:52 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
Then you're not counting something or you're doing something silly like going back to loot and salvage... Oh, wait...


All smart mission runners do it at the same time with shooting stuff.

You forgot how much is it going to cost to run those missions. You know, ammo.
Pipa Porto
#107 - 2012-07-19 06:08:29 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Then you're not counting something or you're doing something silly like going back to loot and salvage... Oh, wait...


All smart mission runners do it at the same time with shooting stuff.

You forgot how much is it going to cost to run those missions. You know, ammo.


No, they don't.

No, I didn't.

Anyway, how is this relevant to who's forcing you to mine, let alone forcing you to use a Hulk?

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#108 - 2012-07-19 06:48:27 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
who's forcing you to mine, let alone forcing you to use a Hulk?


If you want me to quit mining could you tell what's alternative if I want to keep current income.
Pipa Porto
#109 - 2012-07-19 06:52:05 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
who's forcing you to mine, let alone forcing you to use a Hulk?


If you want me to quit mining could you tell what's alternative if I want to keep current income.


When did I say you should quit mining?

I'm just pointing out that miners are choosing to mine, and they are choosing to do so in undefended ships.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#110 - 2012-07-19 06:55:50 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
I'm just pointing out that miners are choosing to mine, and they are choosing to do so in undefended ships.


If ganking Hulks gets boring you can always gank my Damnation. Just prepare to lose few Tornadoes.
Pipa Porto
#111 - 2012-07-19 07:13:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Pipa Porto
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
I'm just pointing out that miners are choosing to mine, and they are choosing to do so in undefended ships.


If ganking Hulks gets boring you can always gank my Damnation. Just prepare to lose few Tornadoes.


You see. We agree. Nobody's forcing anyone to mine in anything less tanky than your Damnation.

So, they're choosing to mine in undefended ships.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Amenotep Polo
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#112 - 2012-07-19 10:16:32 UTC
I love how my humble thread, aimed at people who whine over afk mining, turned out.
Nayl Mkoll
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#113 - 2012-07-19 18:55:43 UTC
Amenotep Polo wrote:
People seem to not have understood the point of my post.

I posted this because i keep reading people complaining about afk mining, and honestly i don't see what all the fuss is about.

I love mining. It's a profitable activity and it alows me to do other stuff while i play. What i don't seem to get though is what all the fuss is about, considering afk mining.



explain exactly who makes a fuss about afk mining..... its not the people shooting these things. we love you afk miners keep at it you only prove darwin was right. Generally the only "fuss" made is when retards who max yeild /cargo tank their hulk, go afk and then cry that they lost their hulk to some mean cyber bully and why wasnt concord their to blow them up the minute that mean ganker yellow boxed him. I dont get the point of your post period. are you trying to defend afk mining?


oh and if you really wanna say hull mining with cargo maxed protects your money more than can mining..... may i ask where you mine?
Dave stark
#114 - 2012-07-19 18:58:24 UTC
Nayl Mkoll wrote:
oh and if you really wanna say hull mining with cargo maxed protects your money more than can mining..... may i ask where you mine?


doesn't matter where they mine, the most lucrative ore in the game is less than 10m per jetcan atm, any ship above a retriever is worth more than your jetcan.

i'd rather be can flipped than suicide ganked any day of the week because 1 jetcan of ore is worth a pittance in comparison to the value of my ship.
Jim Roebuck
State War Academy
Caldari State
#115 - 2012-07-19 20:32:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Jim Roebuck
Watch some pr0nz.

Literally

When Bon Scott died and he appeared before St. Peter at the gates of Heaven, St. Peter looked at his record and told him he couldn't get in. Just then, God screams at Peter, "Let him in, Karen Carpenter is driving me nuts. I want to hear some music with balls. We'll haggle over the paperwork later." At least I hope that's what happened.
MunnyRabbit
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#116 - 2012-07-19 21:30:09 UTC
I don't really know what happened to this thread but i enjoyed reading it even though i have no clue why that many posts needed to happen.

Anyways im going to mine in my mining ship for non free ore that i choose to fly because i want to get the isk that my mining ship will give me that i choose to mine... to get isk.
CorInaXeraL
The Dresdeneers
#117 - 2012-07-19 21:47:04 UTC
MunnyRabbit wrote:
I don't really know what happened to this thread but i enjoyed reading it even though i have no clue why that many posts needed to happen.

Anyways im going to mine in my mining ship for non free ore that i choose to fly because i want to get the isk that my mining ship will give me that i choose to mine... to get isk.



Can I shoot at you in a vastly cheaper ship and steal all your dropped modules? Because that is something that seems like a fun thing to do because I can.
MunnyRabbit
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#118 - 2012-07-19 22:06:35 UTC
CorInaXeraL wrote:
MunnyRabbit wrote:
I don't really know what happened to this thread but i enjoyed reading it even though i have no clue why that many posts needed to happen.

Anyways im going to mine in my mining ship for non free ore that i choose to fly because i want to get the isk that my mining ship will give me that i choose to mine... to get isk.



Can I shoot at you in a vastly cheaper ship and steal all your dropped modules? Because that is something that seems like a fun thing to do because I can.


As we are playing eve i am assuming the risk of mining in a very weak EHP and i cannot stop you from shooting me in a vastly cheaper ship if that is your choice to do so and you enjoy it.

Pandas
Aeryn Banks
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#119 - 2012-07-20 01:41:04 UTC
MunnyRabbit wrote:
As we are playing eve i am assuming the risk of mining in a very weak EHP and i cannot stop you from shooting me in a vastly cheaper ship if that is your choice to do so and you enjoy it.

Pandas


May I respectfully suggest you refrain from using your mining ship with very weak EHP and instead utilize a sturdier non-mining ship with substantially strong EHP to mine ore to get your ISK?

Aardvarks.
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#120 - 2012-07-20 01:44:38 UTC
Aeryn Banks wrote:
May I respectfully suggest you refrain from using your mining ship with very weak EHP and instead utilize a sturdier non-mining ship with substantially strong EHP to mine ore to get your ISK?


Try mining with three Rokhs for 3 hours and then tell us how did it go. And more importantly would you do it again?