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Is this even POSSIBLE??
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Peter Raptor
Galactic Hawks
#1 - 2012-07-18 07:19:40 UTC
I'd like to mine with my hulk and use my orca as a hauler, ON ONE ACCOUNT?

Is it possible to park your orca in a quiet system grav site, eject, come back with your hulk from the station, mine and jettison plenty of cans in the process,

after a while, park the hulk in the Orca maintenance bay IN SPACE, get into the Orca , collect everything from the cans, fly home with everythin Bear

Possible? Anyone done it? I am just not sure if an unpiloted Orca will take a Hulk into the maintenance bay.

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Sugar Kyle
Middle Ground
#2 - 2012-07-18 07:51:29 UTC
It is possible. People do it.

Other people steal them. Grand theft orca is a fantastic heist. Or someone may just pop it, but leaving a ship around is an invite to lose said ship into someone elses hanger.

Orcas hold two hulks I have heard. I have not flown or used either so it is pure hearsay.

I will advise, with every bit of my being, not to do this. My corp has picked up its share of orca and hulks this way.

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Aeryn Banks
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-07-18 08:14:12 UTC
Sugar Kyle wrote:
I will advise, with every bit of my being, not to do this.


I second this advice. In fact, I spent considerable effort to open a second account and create an Orca alt on it to rather than leaving it unpiloted somewhere and risk the possible catastrophe of losing an Orca.
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-07-18 08:16:41 UTC
When you go shopping, do you lock your car at the store's parking lot, or do you leave the doors open, the key in the ignition, and all your papers on the driver's seat?
Signal11th
#5 - 2012-07-18 08:34:23 UTC
Get an alt, much easier and alot less risky.

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Vilnius Zar
SDC Multi Ten
#6 - 2012-07-18 08:41:16 UTC
If you target the empty Orca only the last pilot (you) can access it, so if someone enters your mining site and frantically tries to board the Orca that won't happen as long as you have it targeted. The issue ofcourse is that you then have to make a choice, if you switch from the Hulk into the Orca you leave that one behind and if the other guy is paying attention he can board your Hulk before you get the chance to scoop it up. What they can also do is bring an ECM fitted Blackbird, suicide-ECM you so you lose lock and then board the Orca.

In short, it's probably a bad idea.
Tobey Darkness
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-07-18 09:03:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Tobey Darkness
Signal11th wrote:
Get an alt, much easier and alot less risky.

My advice is: Get a friend / corpmate. Much cheaper and alot less boring.

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Peter Raptor
Galactic Hawks
#8 - 2012-07-18 09:12:53 UTC
You'd have to do it in a fairly quite system, and dscan regularly, good to kno it can be done tho. And getting another account is ........pricey Straight

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Sin Pew
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2012-07-18 09:37:37 UTC
Peter Raptor wrote:
come back with your hulk from the station
Why such complications if you have a station nearby? fly the hulk back, bring the orca and scoop. Unpiloted, the orca won't provide any boost and you just leave a 400+mil boat floating unattended. So what would be the point of the process?

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Coral Theisman
Space Ants
Brave Collective
#10 - 2012-07-18 10:05:56 UTC
Hello, what system do you mine in?
Plaude Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-07-18 11:00:43 UTC
Possible? Yes. Unnecessarily risky? Yes.

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Peter Raptor
Galactic Hawks
#12 - 2012-07-18 11:28:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Peter Raptor
Sin Pew wrote:
Peter Raptor wrote:
come back with your hulk from the station
Why such complications if you have a station nearby? fly the hulk back, bring the orca and scoop. Unpiloted, the orca won't provide any boost and you just leave a 400+mil boat floating unattended. So what would be the point of the process?



Well, it just saves time if youre in a quite system. Anyway, thx for the replies guys, quite helpful, see ya in my next thread sometime Bear

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Peter Raptor
Galactic Hawks
#13 - 2012-07-18 11:29:38 UTC
Coral Theisman wrote:
Hello, what system do you mine in?


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highonpop
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#14 - 2012-07-18 14:24:03 UTC
If you do, plan on losing that orca and/or your hulk Pirate

FC, what do?
Gronn
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2012-07-18 14:33:36 UTC
Don't do it, because if I find your ship floating around... It will become mine...
Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
#16 - 2012-07-18 14:52:31 UTC
Do it in a null-sec system your Alliance owns and protects and has cyno jammers on, that doesn't border any contested space.

Don't do this basically anywhere else, people like me train ship skills for ships they have no intention of flying ever just so that we can steal them if they're left in space.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-07-18 22:05:42 UTC
Food for locator agent.

Price of locator agent: 250.000 ISK
Steal orca and sell it: 400mil ISK.

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Cyprus Black
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#18 - 2012-07-19 03:48:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Cyprus Black
Confirming that I too will be adding him to the watch list and running agent locators on him with some frequency.

Orca sell orders are up to almost 700 mil. Enough to cover another month of game time. I predict the OPs next thread will be a rage quit.

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Skeln Thargensen
Doomheim
#19 - 2012-07-19 12:48:11 UTC
Say you mined mission deadspace pockets like this, and you kept a vigilant eye on d-scan for probes. would this not be relatively safe if you warped orca and hulk back to station at the first sign of scanning and shut down the mission site, or can mission sites be scanned down without probes?

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Vilnius Zar
SDC Multi Ten
#20 - 2012-07-19 13:01:22 UTC
Skeln Thargensen wrote:
Say you mined mission deadspace pockets like this, and you kept a vigilant eye on d-scan for probes. would this not be relatively safe if you warped orca and hulk back to station at the first sign of scanning and shut down the mission site, or can mission sites be scanned down without probes?


That would work. The problem is ofcourse that mining is almost by definition done by people who dislike putting in effort and/or have to play in half-afk mode, and thus a solution that requires you to check your Dscanner every 2-5 seconds is probably not logical for players like that. Not saying ALL miners are that way but the vast, VAST majority are.
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