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Help with EULA, is real money collateral against the rules?
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KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#21 - 2012-07-17 23:32:21 UTC
Plex are technically worth 15 dollars each, and chribba would gladly hold onto them

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Mr Bushar
Doomheim
#22 - 2012-07-18 17:28:44 UTC
Thank you again for all of your help :)
I will not involve any real money with any of my activities (including collaterals)

Fortunately, I have managed to find a few investors who were still willing to trust me
Evelyn Meiyi
Corvidae Trading and Holding
#23 - 2012-07-18 17:35:54 UTC
Mr Bushar wrote:


Would I be paying for a service, if I allow someone to hold real money, and then I receive the full amount back?
Essentially paying $0? (technically not counting time-value of money, if you wanna go that far)


Whether or not omeone makes a profit, you are still conducting a real-money trade. Trying to find away around the rules just makes things worse.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#24 - 2012-07-18 17:44:16 UTC
Not saying you are trying to do this, but...

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Viziam
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2012-07-18 17:47:09 UTC
Mr Bushar wrote:
Thank you again for all of your help :)
I will not involve any real money with any of my activities (including collaterals)

Fortunately, I have managed to find a few investors who were still willing to trust me



Again you can petition the GMs and ask them. That's what they're there for. Anytime you feel there's an uncertainty or ambiguity in the game's rules you can ask the GMs. It even leaves a nice paper trail so your butt is covered.

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Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#26 - 2012-07-18 18:20:05 UTC
Mr Bushar wrote:
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
Just buy a plex and turn it into isk and then you're legal in the sense. They have a section in the EULA about exchanging services in game for real world currency and vice versa.


Would I be paying for a service, if I allow someone to hold real money, and then I receive the full amount back?
Essentially paying $0? (technically not counting time-value of money, if you wanna go that far)

The issue is this can be used to exchange real money for isk. "Oops, the investment failed! The ISK you gave me somehow all got wasted! You get my real money held in escrow."

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