Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Hey all,
Now, during the last Fanfest CCP said that they were returning to the more important part of EVE, Internet Spaceships. While I applaud them on their efforts so far, there is still a lot of work to be done in order to make EVE a prettier and more playable game overall.

One of the main things that is bugging me right now is the hulls. There are several hulls that desperately need a model overhaul in a very big way. There have been many MANY threads posting about this, but I think that it's about time something got done about it. So, I'm going to be listing some hull classes that need a model overhaul as well as some suggestions about them. I'd also like the contribution of others that agree that some of the hulls need work.

So far I'm quite happy with the Amarr lineup, they fit the lore and the general Amarrian look. The Minmatar update that came with Inferno 1.1 fixed all my problems with the Minmatar lineup, so hooray for that.

Gallente:

Atron Class Frigate:
This ship is lopsided and I think the big, chunky whateverthehell it is on its starboard side looks horrible. I think that it would look better if the ship were more symmetrical, replace the starboard side with a wing, similar to the port side. The only good thing that I can say about the starboard side is the thruster module half way down the wing. If this were replicated on both sides and was an active thruster this would add a lot more appeal to the ship.

Incursus Class Frigate:
Not a lot can be said about this ship really. The one gripe that I have with it is that the bottom stabilizers have been skinned in such a way that when weapons are mounted on them, the plating doesn't match where the turrets are mounted. If the stabilizers were centered on the mounts so that the turrets were in the middle of the plating that'd look a lot better.

Imicus Class Frigate:
The idea that I have for this ship is very simple, if the main section of the ship were straight as opposed to bent and its port wing replicated on the starboard side that'd make the ship look better. Easy as that.

Exequror Class Cruiser:
The top thruster sections should be of equal size. The bottom starboard thruster section should be replicated on the port side.

Celestis Class Cruiser:
This is pretty much the Gallente's Moa. It's ugly, it needs a serious model overhaul.

Caldari:

Bantam Class Frigate:
Needs a module update. I remember the same model when I started EVE 5 years ago.

Griffin Class Frigate:
The frigate Moa, it's ugly and needs a model overhaul. Also, whats the point of having thrusters either side pointing outward?

Kestrel Class Frigate:
Though the texture has been updated, the model hasn't been touched in years. That needs to change. It's as blocky as the first day I saw it. It needs to be updated.

Merlin Class Frigate:
Just needs a model update because it's still quite blocky. Not a big issue, but it'd be nice to have a prettier EVE.

Other than that, because I really cannot be bothered going through all the Caldari ships, the ships that haven't had their models redone, they need an update. They're blocky and unsightly and just need to be brought forward as far as their models go. The one big one is the Moa Class Cruiser. It's incredibly ugly, and as you've made the other ships prettier, the Moa looks increasingly unsightly. It should be top priority for it to be overhauled.

Also, the Angel Cartel ships need their graphics updated because they were left behind in Inferno 1.1, which is a shame.

As usual, constructive comments would be appreciated, trolls will be reported. If a Dev or GM could have a look at this it would be much appreciated.

JD

I was using it as contrast as its one of the (if not, the) ugliest ships in EVE.

I'd love to see Eve get more symmetrical. Raven, Moa, Griffin, Kestrel, Bantam, Celestis, Tempest, and Blackbird are the ones I'd like to see changed. Some of the current designs would completely spin out of control if the thrusters actually put out the force the plumes indicate. I realize the dev's wanted to be different, but sometimes different isn't good.

Maybe there could be the option to make V2 hulls with symmetry and leave V1 hulls in for those preferring the original designs. Same stats, just different graphic.

Fortunately it's only a mild case. It's bad enough I sold a tempest after flying it one time but I've managed to hold on to my Raven. I do love the new Scorpion though.

CCP knows full well that many of the older models are horrors to behold. its no accident that all of the ships they've added or remodeled over the past couple years are almost completely symmetrical. EVE has long suffered from the "designed by art department" syndrome. Super-advanced technology cannot explain the bizarre designs of many things in this game, esp. stations. As Ruareve stated, the configurations of most ships wouldn't even allow them fly in a straight line. I'm sure a dash of technobabble could explain this away, but why not simply make them look believable? Hey, maybe ugraded models could even accommodate believable placement of weapons!

The only model I think needs to be changed is the Geddon (and variants).

Not much. But, when active the Mega Pulses hang off the sides of the top... looks rather unfinished.


Oh and the Imicus needs to be smashed into little pieces.

Afterburners- Gives a boost to the maximum velocity of the ship when activated. The thrust that boosts the ship, and the corresponding maximum velocity bonus, are limited by the mass of the ship that uses this module.

100mn version Thrust
150,000,000 N

MWD- Massive boost to speed for a very short time. The thrust that boosts the ship, and the corresponding maximum velocity bonus, are limited by the mass of the ship that uses this module. The sheer amount of energy needed to power this system means that it must use part of the capacitor output and the shield just to maintain the integrity of its warp containment field.

100mn version Thrust
150,000,000 N


Pretty sure the N there stands for Newtons.

So yes they use thrusters, and yes the current design is completely out of line with the method of propulsion indicated in the game.

It's rather hard to have a consistent canon when your physics model makes no sense whatsoever.

OP wonders why the Griffin has side thrusters; he should really be wondering why every other ship doesn't have them, and top/bottom thrusters as well--or maybe he should ask why ships lean into turns, or why railguns don't have ranges measured in AU, if not LY.

EDIT: Also, no touching the Exequror hull.