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Minmatar MIlitia @ T5!
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Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#101 - 2012-07-12 17:13:00 UTC
Lyron-Baktos wrote:
Peteris G wrote:
Lyron-Baktos wrote:
is there a way to find out where all the LP stores are in game and what tier that system is?


Shocked

Q: What FW needs to complete current beautiful picture?
A: Rotte Kapelle joining Minmatar militia Lol


that will not happen, lol

but back to my first question, if I have some LP I want to go cash out, how do I find out the best place to do it at? That's what I'm looking for. I know Dal has a store but that's the only one I know of



Look up tribal liberation force and check for the stations they have ....

actually ... here, dotlan works out of game

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/npc/Tribal_Liberation_Force/stations

This link will tell you what you need to know.

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom
Merdaneth
Angel Wing.
Khimi Harar
#102 - 2012-07-12 18:32:14 UTC
Please, no resets: let the victors enjoy the spoils.

Just make it so that the metagame doesn't encourage 'not-winning' and have the war grind to a halt in a weird status quo that is optimized for farming isk. Make the war something that doesn't encourage maximizing the number of low-skilled alts you have on the 'winning side' to partake in farming. Put a counterbalance in it that while giving the winning side some immediate advantages, doesn't lock them into a state of perpetual advantages.

If FW would have been the only available source of say, Amarr Empire starbase charters and Datacores, market mechanism would have been able to compensate for those on the losing side. A compensation that doesn't require a reset, odd metagaming or agreements, but motivates people to fight for the losing side through natural mechanisms.
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#103 - 2012-07-13 13:53:39 UTC
Merdaneth wrote:
Please, no resets: let the victors enjoy the spoils.

Just make it so that the metagame doesn't encourage 'not-winning' and have the war grind to a halt in a weird status quo that is optimized for farming isk. Make the war something that doesn't encourage maximizing the number of low-skilled alts you have on the 'winning side' to partake in farming. Put a counterbalance in it that while giving the winning side some immediate advantages, doesn't lock them into a state of perpetual advantages.

If FW would have been the only available source of say, Amarr Empire starbase charters and Datacores, market mechanism would have been able to compensate for those on the losing side. A compensation that doesn't require a reset, odd metagaming or agreements, but motivates people to fight for the losing side through natural mechanisms.




good post.

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom
Ash Stewart
T.R.I.A.D
Ushra'Khan
#104 - 2012-07-17 11:37:00 UTC
Major Killz wrote:
Maybe CCP should reset Minmatar/Amarr factional warfare. I do believe the goon related manipulation has affected that war in a negative way. Goons were not the only ones btw and those others have seen their profits removed. Forget all that crap.

Once this was all found out by CCP maybe they should have reset the whole thing. Maybe...

- end of transmission



The goon exploit has been given too much credit.

The fact is, we've reached Tier 5 without their help since then, and to be honest, the goons have exploited the situation off the backs of hardworking minmatar officers.

The amarr can fight back if they had the will to do so, and the thinking ability to work out strategic advances.

.................It's the eye of the tiger, it's the thrill of the fight Risin' up to the challenge of our rival And the last known survivor stalks his prey in the night And he's watchin' us all with the eye of the tiger...............
Ash Stewart
T.R.I.A.D
Ushra'Khan
#105 - 2012-07-17 11:47:57 UTC
Pinky Feldman wrote:
Cearain wrote:
Peteris G wrote:
Cearain wrote:
...in amarr's leadership ... pretty bad strategies


Folks, Amarr militia main corps/alliances leaders just need stick together and contact Damar and just ask him for advices what to do... Damar is insane Blink no doubts on that Smile but he also knows plexing war perfectly, he will be able give You right directions easy, perhaps not all his secrets since after all You have well know frog-lovers in Your ranks (I will not point to anybody particular but everybody know who are that brigade Blink ) but still You should be able stomp minnies into mud (if there is such in space) in no time considering that You have 0.0 backup. I still can't imagine how You got in such sad state with r/fw-eddit support (and I assume CVA also?).



I would say our strategies of 1) flipping systems right away, 2) defensive plexing instead of offensive plexing, and 3) only offensive plexing in small areas that the minmatar can easilly cover when they blob around, are well known to be bad strategies. Yet we continue to do this.


That is why I almost question whether some in the amarr leadership actually want minmatar to remain dominant. But really I think its just that no one really wants to do pve and plexing is pve.


Bro, no offense to you, but I haven't seen you in any of the leadership channels or in any of the discussions on the future of Amarr militia. You can criticize strategies all you want, but at the end of the day you're just playing armchair General. Saying that something is a good tactic with no understanding of how feasible it is or if its even been tried under the current circumstances is just ignorant. Stop lumping the entire Amarr militia together as a whole, most of the current groups doing anything weren't even around pre-Inferno.


So WHAT are you doing guys?? :P

I kinda agree with the guy's assessment!

Clearly, whatever strategies you are cooking up in your leadership round-table discussions isn't exactly working for you. So I suggest you look at upcoming talent such as the guy above and recruit him!

Perhaps THEN we can get some real action around here!

.................It's the eye of the tiger, it's the thrill of the fight Risin' up to the challenge of our rival And the last known survivor stalks his prey in the night And he's watchin' us all with the eye of the tiger...............
Ash Stewart
T.R.I.A.D
Ushra'Khan
#106 - 2012-07-17 11:55:48 UTC
Kuehnelt wrote:
Ninlarra wrote:
You can not take from us the victory of completly, totally, encompassing, and positively destroying you and your ****** faction.


Gains achieved during the era when plexing was meaningless, when it took one TZ to seize a system, when one frigate could take an entire system by himself, were retained in the transition to the new (heavily incentivized) system in which it takes five times as long to take a system. So no, you never got a chance to completely, totally, encompassing(?), positively destroy the Amarr. You won the game on day zero. As much as you're frothing at the mouth, I guess you'd wanted a real victory after a real war, one that you could be proud of and one that others - even your enemies - would respect you for having achieved. Well, that's just too bad. I would've liked some kind of 'faction war' as well.

-snip-

Profanity in quote.

ISD Tyrozan


Something you could have done at the time too............ your arguments are meaningless and irrelevant!

.................It's the eye of the tiger, it's the thrill of the fight Risin' up to the challenge of our rival And the last known survivor stalks his prey in the night And he's watchin' us all with the eye of the tiger...............
Lyskal Oskold
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#107 - 2012-07-18 00:13:33 UTC
Didn't you guys hear? The Amarr are "losing on purpose". We've lost, they just won't plex, oh no. They really got us now.

*rolls eyes and cashes in more T5*

"Love is just a chemical, no matter the origin. We give it meaning by choice." - Eleanor Lamb
sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade
Ghost Legion.
#108 - 2012-07-18 01:12:04 UTC
Lyskal Oskold wrote:
Didn't you guys hear? The Amarr are "losing on purpose". We've lost, they just won't plex, oh no. They really got us now.

*rolls eyes and cashes in more T5*



You and most of us too.

Don't ask about Italics, just tilt your head.
Lyskal Oskold
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#109 - 2012-07-18 09:04:49 UTC
sYnc Vir wrote:
Lyskal Oskold wrote:
Didn't you guys hear? The Amarr are "losing on purpose". We've lost, they just won't plex, oh no. They really got us now.

*rolls eyes and cashes in more T5*



You and most of us too.


"There are two rules to killing someone. 1: You never kill someone without a reason. 2: You can always find a reason to kill someone." Saren Arterius.

If it truly does stagnant I think most Minnie alliances have back up plans, I know of a few that do. We'll just leave, wait for the Amarr to fatten up then come back if it gets really bad.

"Love is just a chemical, no matter the origin. We give it meaning by choice." - Eleanor Lamb
Amymuffmuff
Hostile.
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#110 - 2012-07-18 10:21:17 UTC
the amarr/minm warzone generally has times where it bounces back and forwards to who is actually dominating to some extent. the only thing is now with the warzone control as it stands most people hop to the minmatar side to get on the LP whoring bandwagon.

it may seem like we are easily "winning the war" but we aren't. the fact that we apparently out number the amarr so easily also isn't exactly so. organisation and a willingness to unite is just what is needed. we simply thought that with inferno that we were going to lose our **** if we didn't act so we started to push even more than normally.

i personally loved all of the action we got around kourm pre-patch and we have still had some great fights since then just not to the same scale. we have had people join the amarr to help the under dogs and people join the minmatar to reap the benefits of our combined efforts.

just to touch on the goons apparently winning it for us. it was still us that pushed the systems so we had enough to get t5 in the first place. it doesn't matter who is the one who decides to push for the t5 push as all it involves in poking the rest of the militia to chuck LP into the i-hubs at the same time.

the thing with the warzone is that is constantly changing and fluctuating and has been since i joined 3 years ago. at this point we hold the main dominance but there has been times in the past where we were unable to undock without fear of getting completely smashed into the ground but we just gritted our teeth, got more organised and fought harder and changed it around. there was a point where the amarr completely dominated in all BS engagements and it took us a couple of fights to change that around. starting with one in sifilar.

things change and eventually it will again. i just hope we can all continue to have fun doing so. at the end of the day i still respect and like the majority of the amarr and caldari and everyone else we face. we wouldn't be good enemies if we couldn't have a laugh at hope for some victories for the opposing side without it. without you guys doing what you do we would have no fun at all.

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Thomas Kreshant
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#111 - 2012-07-18 11:11:26 UTC
Lyskal Oskold wrote:
sYnc Vir wrote:
Lyskal Oskold wrote:
Didn't you guys hear? The Amarr are "losing on purpose". We've lost, they just won't plex, oh no. They really got us now.

*rolls eyes and cashes in more T5*



You and most of us too.


"There are two rules to killing someone. 1: You never kill someone without a reason. 2: You can always find a reason to kill someone." Saren Arterius.

If it truly does stagnant I think most Minnie alliances have back up plans, I know of a few that do. We'll just leave, wait for the Amarr to fatten up then come back if it gets really bad.



Really shouldn't confuse PVP with ISK making.

Currently FW is a gold mine with the changes in Inferno that made it hugely profitable for almost zero effort and people should rinse it while they can.



Dan Carter Murray
#112 - 2012-07-18 12:15:48 UTC
Amymuffmuff wrote:

things change and eventually it will again. i just hope we can all continue to have fun doing so. at the end of the day i still respect and like the majority of the amarr and caldari and everyone else we face. we wouldn't be good enemies if we couldn't have a laugh at hope for some victories for the opposing side without it. without you guys doing what you do we would have no fun at all.


stop undocking your mega-no-way-we-can't-lose-a-ship-with-these-numbers-plus-we-gots-to-haiz-dat-e-c-m-for-zee-icing-on-dat-phat-guaranteed-field-loot-cake and your hope for victories for the opposing side may come true.

At least that was my experience on the Amarr side in late USTZ.

As for when I was minmatar..."they have 3 amarr wt, in med plex...let's bring everyone" in comms

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Amymuffmuff
Hostile.
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#113 - 2012-07-18 12:23:51 UTC
lol.

unfortunately the less amarr around the more likely the ones who are out and looking for pew is going to draw everyone

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Private Pineapple
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#114 - 2012-07-18 12:27:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Private Pineapple
Dan Carter Murray wrote:
Amymuffmuff wrote:

things change and eventually it will again. i just hope we can all continue to have fun doing so. at the end of the day i still respect and like the majority of the amarr and caldari and everyone else we face. we wouldn't be good enemies if we couldn't have a laugh at hope for some victories for the opposing side without it. without you guys doing what you do we would have no fun at all.


stop undocking your mega-no-way-we-can't-lose-a-ship-with-these-numbers-plus-we-gots-to-haiz-dat-e-c-m-for-zee-icing-on-dat-phat-guaranteed-field-loot-cake and your hope for victories for the opposing side may come true.

At least that was my experience on the Amarr side in late USTZ.

As for when I was minmatar..."they have 3 amarr wt, in med plex...let's bring everyone" in comms


Psh, you squids do the same thing. Even when I login, Flyingleanpocket will notice that I'm online and find whatever system I'm in and then tell everyone to come to that system so I don't plex. I'm surprised he is this persistent despite not catching me at all.

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