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SP loss with strategic cruiser
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4-AcO-DMT
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-07-18 00:36:08 UTC
i heard that when you lose t3 strategic cruisers (tengu, loki, legion, proteus) u also lose SP, is that true ?

how exactly does this work ? both in pvp and pve ? why ??
Master Ventris
Rogue Pioneers
#2 - 2012-07-18 00:51:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Master Ventris
You lose 1 level off a randomly selected skill from the 5 subsystem skills that relate to the ship you lost. (eg caldari subsystem skills when you lose a tengu).

I know it's randomly selected and not the highest trained as my electronics went from 4 to 3 while all the others stayed at 5.

EDIT: yes both pvp and pve. if you are in the ship when it explodes then you lose. Ejecting prevents the loss if you are quick enough to do it.

Why? It's just part of the balancing. Risk vs reward. Use a powerful ship and risk losing skill points (Although they are all rank 1 skills so only take 3-4 days to retrain back to 5)
drdxie
#3 - 2012-07-18 00:54:13 UTC
You lose 1 level of one of the subsystem skills. I had 3 pilots popped in a Tengu's so far and each of them lost a different skill, offensive, electronics and propulsion. It supposed to be random. As to why... because CCP can Blink but its only 3-5 days to get it back.

Caldari Loving needed.. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1608277&#post1608277
Bill Serkoff2
Tachyon Technology
#4 - 2012-07-18 01:57:37 UTC
Not enough of a penalty, I say. Nerf it to the ground!

"The Cyclone and the Drake are two ships which will basically never be good for shield tanking, primarily because they have almost no lowslots in addition to shield tanking bonuses. " -Iam Widdershins
Annabell Ood
Ood Mineral Resources Management
#5 - 2012-07-18 02:37:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Annabell Ood
Bill Serkoff2 wrote:
Not enough of a penalty, I say. Nerf it to the ground!


Starting next patch any pilot useing a Tengu will no longer be able to train any skills Shocked











































after getting into a Tengu, there is no need to train anymoreBlink
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#6 - 2012-07-18 08:21:24 UTC
:golfclap:

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-07-18 18:46:08 UTC
Bill Serkoff2 wrote:
Not enough of a penalty, I say. Nerf it to the ground!


And you fly what?
IGNATIUS HOOD
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2012-07-18 20:25:49 UTC
drdxie wrote:
You lose 1 level of one of the subsystem skills. I had 3 pilots popped in a Tengu's so far and each of them lost a different skill, offensive, electronics and propulsion. It supposed to be random. As to why... because CCP can Blink but its only 3-5 days to get it back.


More of an annoyance really. Although losing Engineering 5 would suck hugely. My poor Covert Legion needs every second of Cap and every MW of grid in my current fit. Twisted

AWU 5 can't happen soon enough.
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Roosterton
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-07-19 00:39:52 UTC
If 3-4 days of lost training time is really that much of a calamity, you can always eject once it becomes evident that you're going to die, and you won't lose any skills.

Of course, this risks giving your enemies a free T3 Big smile
Boomhaur
#10 - 2012-07-19 08:35:54 UTC
Roosterton wrote:
If 3-4 days of lost training time is really that much of a calamity, you can always eject once it becomes evident that you're going to die, and you won't lose any skills.

Of course, this risks giving your enemies a free T3 Big smile


Yup, I personally rather just overheat everything and go down with guns blazing.

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