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Thanks - Low Sec Roamers

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Xearal
Dead's Prostitutes
The Initiative.
#21 - 2011-10-08 22:27:31 UTC
Yeah,

Flying around in low sec is generally quite fun. I know all of the locals, and they know I'm generally too slippery to get caught, however, a few days ago, while I was taking down a hacking site, a vagabond dropped onto me.

He scammed me, and began opening fire. I was in my drake and kicked in the overheat on my middle rack, setting full power to my inv fields. We had a nice good fight, and I managed to outlast him, and take his shields down before he warped off with his guns burned out.
I didn't have a scram on my myself, as I was busy hacking stuff, but I had a great chatter afterwards.

He was impressed that someone doing hacking sites actually knew a few tricks on how to handle a fight. In all, it was good fun, sadly no kill for me. ( was actually my first 1 vs 1 fight! Before that I was always in fleets either roaming, or defense fleets, and usually I'm in a guardian in those instances as my pew pew is less than optimal, but my tanking and repping skills are quite good. And so is my Ewar )

Does railgun ammunition come in Hollow Point?

Saiyon
R3X.FW
#22 - 2011-10-09 02:06:00 UTC
Drakes are our "no go" ship, we just can't do anything to them with our set-up. Anything that relies on turrets we will have a crack at though.

The Amarr tech 2 frigates don't seem like a valid option for us, maybe this will get fixed as assault ships have been mentioned in the dev blog.

Therefore at the moment we are focusing our skills into cruisers. Also they are the ships we can afford to loose (for the time being).

Question:

Is it possible / viable to roam low sec with 2 or 3 fleet members, or does the risk / reward ratio lean to heavily on "risk"?

Cpt Fina
Perkone
Caldari State
#23 - 2011-10-09 03:52:21 UTC
Saiyon wrote:

Question:

Is it possible / viable to roam low sec with 2 or 3 fleet members, or does the risk / reward ratio lean to heavily on "risk"?



It is both possible and viable.

If you want to profit from pew pew then i recommend going after plex- and mission-runners.
Barakkus
#24 - 2011-10-09 14:57:46 UTC
Saiyon wrote:
Drakes are our "no go" ship, we just can't do anything to them with our set-up. Anything that relies on turrets we will have a crack at though.

The Amarr tech 2 frigates don't seem like a valid option for us, maybe this will get fixed as assault ships have been mentioned in the dev blog.

Therefore at the moment we are focusing our skills into cruisers. Also they are the ships we can afford to loose (for the time being).

Question:

Is it possible / viable to roam low sec with 2 or 3 fleet members, or does the risk / reward ratio lean to heavily on "risk"?




2 or 3 is entirely doable and should be fun, just make sure you scout the neighboring systems to see if your targets have backup waiting. Just jump in and dscan for anyone in range of the gates, check local and see if there is anyone in the same alliance/corp as the people you're hunting before engaging.

Don't be afraid of the drake! Get yourselves into something bigger and kill it with fire (and ecm)! (I hate drakes)

http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc

Kordan Marenus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#25 - 2011-10-09 15:29:46 UTC
I havnt gone into low sec much. but the other day i did go through one low sec to get to another high sec. I didnt take anything i was willing to lose. infact i used my old badger mk 1 instead of my badger mk 2 with rigs. Got killed by a gate camp, didnt take it personal, not like they were after me. i was just the next idiot to jump through the gate. doubt if they even looked at my name lol.

I'm not pirate or ganker, but i like eve because instead of some dumb ai pirates there are real thinking people behind those guns. makes it more exciting and the world more rich that way.
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#26 - 2011-10-09 17:08:32 UTC
I can tell you, roaming low sec is risky. Establishing a foothold out there all the moreso.

But from the events of a few days ago, I can tell you, even when you get into a huge firefight out there, and both sides lose a lot of ships, the "gf" and lols still flow in Local. Even from some of the groups that most people thing are ****heads.

It's part of the reason I keep going back for more.

PvP is one of those things that will always result in losses, no matter how good you are. You will eventually get in over your head. But if the people continue to be cool about it, like they are in most cases, it'll continue being enjoyable. The carebears could learn a lot from PvPers, even pirates about a sense of community. After all, losing ships stimulates the economy in game, thus keeps them gainfully and happily employed. If all PvP stopped, the market would grow stagnant, and they'd be losing profits.

If you're an industrialist, thank a pirate.

I am the One who exists in Shadow. I am the Devil your parents warned you about.

||CEO: Order of the Shadow||Executor: The Revenant Order||Creator: Bowhead||

Andrea Skye
Rico's Roughnecks.
#27 - 2011-10-09 22:06:22 UTC
I have given true newbies isk and advice after I killed them. Why? because I want them to come back to low sec and try again...

You can nearly always tell who is a true newbie and who isnt, most of the time before the fight even starts.

But thats not to say I'm a nice guy. Most of the time I the biggest smacktard in local.
Vricrolatious
HIgh Sec Care Bears
Brothers of Tangra
#28 - 2011-10-10 02:44:43 UTC
Like someone above brought up... shocked there's no trolls here (not going to be the first.)

Based in nullsec, but have never had more fun than wandering around lowsec looking for fights. You're right, most of the people you find there are decent people. It's not their fault they had to turn to a life of piracy to make a living Pirate

When my first trip to null failed (the alliance I had joined fell apart a week after I joined, I swear I had nothing to do with it,) me and a mate moved back to lowsec to fly with our former alliance in lowsec and I still haven't found many fights that were better than the ones we got in a couple of a AF's in Min lowsec.

Keep flying, keep shooting and keep having fun, because that's what EVE is.. a game to have fun in.

Good hunting o7

WIDot, Best Dot, Even Sans Dot! -Vric

Zoe Alarhun
The Proactive Reappropriation Corporation
#29 - 2011-10-10 07:41:15 UTC
I get pewed as often as I pew. I love low sec.
Zixie Draco
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#30 - 2011-10-10 14:17:42 UTC

Confirming that every now and then, it just feels good to go roam with a group of friends and diaf gloriously :)

Would you like a kitten?

Saiyon
R3X.FW
#31 - 2011-10-10 14:59:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Saiyon
Quote:

Question:

Is it possible / viable to roam low sec with 2 or 3 fleet members, or does the risk / reward ratio lean to heavily on "risk"?



The question should have read null-sec instead of low-sec, doh!
Comy 1
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#32 - 2011-10-10 15:17:15 UTC
New players with a good attitude is something most players appreciate.

I'm not really into the low sec scene myself but I tend to do quite some wormhole ganking with my alts. As someone said earlier it's pretty easy to spot the new players on their behavior and I have been happy to help these guys out with advice should they be willing to listen.

I specifically remember a poor soul that just had moved in to a C3 wormhole and was in the middle of running his first wormhole anomaly ever in a Typhoon. To get this story into context I'm just going to say that me and a friend clear one of those sites in something like 4-5 minutes (long time since I timed, but i believe it's arround that). This poor guy had spent 3 hours finishing it.

Evil as we are we warped in and grabbed him just as he was about to start salvaging (in the same Typhoon) and ransomed his pod for an outrageous ammount of isk and stole his salvage/loot. When we actually realized from looking at NPC kill statistics and looking at his actual Typhoon fit we realized he couldn't have done this for long, and after starting a convo with him we realized that it was infact his first anomaly ever.

Felt so sorry for him we replaced all his isk and spent a long time guiding him.

For some reason the harshest internet spaceship living conditions has made me into a softie. Sad
Johnny Punisher
Avanto
Hole Control
#33 - 2011-10-10 15:22:27 UTC
Your maller, arbi, punisher fleet is good imo. Maller as bait to tank dps and arbi as neuting and punisher as tackle. Only problem is that they dont have that good ability to gtfo when things go sour, maller and arbi are kinda slow.

Btw you aaalmost got my vengeance down, was gf :)
Sutskop
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2011-10-10 15:25:49 UTC
Saiyon wrote:
Quote:

Question:

Is it possible / viable to roam low sec with 2 or 3 fleet members, or does the risk / reward ratio lean to heavily on "risk"?



The question should have read null-sec instead of low-sec, doh!


Roaming nulsec with 3 is viable too, but maybe not in Cruisers but something faster. Missing gateguns means that frigate sized hulls are much more viable. With enough patience you could take down the odd ratting battleship which are much more common in nulsec than lowsec.
Barakkus
#35 - 2011-10-10 15:30:27 UTC
Comy 1 wrote:
New players with a good attitude is something most players appreciate.

I'm not really into the low sec scene myself but I tend to do quite some wormhole ganking with my alts. As someone said earlier it's pretty easy to spot the new players on their behavior and I have been happy to help these guys out with advice should they be willing to listen.

I specifically remember a poor soul that just had moved in to a C3 wormhole and was in the middle of running his first wormhole anomaly ever in a Typhoon. To get this story into context I'm just going to say that me and a friend clear one of those sites in something like 4-5 minutes (long time since I timed, but i believe it's arround that). This poor guy had spent 3 hours finishing it.

Evil as we are we warped in and grabbed him just as he was about to start salvaging (in the same Typhoon) and ransomed his pod for an outrageous ammount of isk and stole his salvage/loot. When we actually realized from looking at NPC kill statistics and looking at his actual Typhoon fit we realized he couldn't have done this for long, and after starting a convo with him we realized that it was infact his first anomaly ever.

Felt so sorry for him we replaced all his isk and spent a long time guiding him.

For some reason the harshest internet spaceship living conditions has made me into a softie. Sad


I caught a complete n00b mining in lowsec in his only cruiser once, I blew him up. He was pretty kewl about it, and he shot back ...turned out he was like a little kid so I gave him enough isk to replace it and his mods and told him where to find semi decent ore to mine without getting shot...

http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc

Saiyon
R3X.FW
#36 - 2011-10-10 15:31:29 UTC
It was a great fight last night, I think we enjoyed that one more than our kill (still our only one to date Sad). The Vagabond ecm drones knocked me out of the fight and saved your bacon!

Strange thing though... those losses last night actually gave us a lot more confidence!

We where soo close to getting the Vengeance and we walked away from that fight with a lot of belief that the kills will start coming soon!

In fact, by the time I got back to to high sec the other 2 fleet members where shipped up and ready to go out again, which we did. Then "Bros with Frozs" who had killed us earlier in the week started to set-up a gate camp for us (BS's and BC's), but this time we spotted the signs much earlier and got away from them with no losses.

Vricrolatious
HIgh Sec Care Bears
Brothers of Tangra
#37 - 2011-10-10 15:32:44 UTC
Sutskop wrote:
Saiyon wrote:
Quote:

Question:

Is it possible / viable to roam low sec with 2 or 3 fleet members, or does the risk / reward ratio lean to heavily on "risk"?



The question should have read null-sec instead of low-sec, doh!


Roaming nulsec with 3 is viable too, but maybe not in Cruisers but something faster. Missing gateguns means that frigate sized hulls are much more viable. With enough patience you could take down the odd ratting battleship which are much more common in nulsec than lowsec.


All we ask in null is that if you're going to wander in frigate hulls, don't use bombers... complete and total pain to catch, lol

Wandering low or null in small groups of two to five is actually a lot of fun and you can pick some decent fights. Yeah, you'll run into the occasional fleet of 50 to 200, but even then you might pick off a straggler if they (or the FC) are terrible.

Going back to your Drake comment above, use EM based damaged on them and they'll melt or better yet, if one of you train to at least fly a Blackbird and slap a Caldari jammer or two on there and problem solved since they can't shoot you if they can't target you.

WIDot, Best Dot, Even Sans Dot! -Vric

Barakkus
#38 - 2011-10-10 15:36:49 UTC
Vricrolatious wrote:

All we ask in null is that if you're going to wander in frigate hulls, don't use bombers... complete and total pain to catch, lol


And when you move up to better ships, for god's sake don't self destruct just to deny someone a km, had a tengu do that to me once, it's really annoying.

http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc

Phero77
Holdings incorporated
#39 - 2011-10-10 15:42:47 UTC
Awesome reading! glad you enjoy eve, ;) In probaly the coolest aspect of the game.

I dropped you some stuff Saiyon it should be in your contracts if you take a look.
from my alt.

Keep on doing what you like and keep practising,

Best regards Phero77 / V V V
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#40 - 2011-10-10 20:12:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Vimsy Vortis
If you want to shoot at well adjusted, friendly people I warn you: Do not ever get involved in highsec PVP.

Up here we all have gigantic egos, anti-social personality disorders and severe anger mangement problems. Its not just the griefers either, you'll never see a more unintelligible, hate landen string of profanity than one that comes out of a mission runner when you blow up his ship.

That and everyone is alts of alts of alts.