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Dueling Button - would you like to see one?

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Ginseng Jita
PAN-EVE TRADING COMPANY
#1 - 2012-07-17 16:49:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Ginseng Jita
OK, just a ideal. I know we can openly duel in EVE under certain circumstances. For instance, two players can drop containers and they loot each others - or you can be in the same corp and duel without interference from Concorde. Dropping containers is so passe and to me an unnecessary prerequisite and joining a corp just to duel is not a very good option either.

I would like a simpler way of going about dueling.

So would anyone be open to the ideal of a "Dueling Button" ? All it would do is flag each participant is an temporary enemy and allow for the players to shoot it out - but only to the point of almost destruction. You can't pod your opponent. Before you can destroy their ship both parties weapons are made inoperable and a winner is declared.

Is this a bad ideal or is it something others would like to see added to the game as a way to practice PvP - without going full on PvP and without all the BS of dropping containers or joining a corp?

If you hate the ideal - tell me to go biomass. Evil
If you like the ideal - tell me you'd love me long time. Big smile

Oh and if this has been brought up in the past, forgive me, I must have missed it.

EDIT: If you do think it is a bad ideal - please explain why - with a good argument and not just - well, it is bad because...give a legit reason as to why it is bad please.
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#2 - 2012-07-17 16:52:49 UTC
This idea is about as out of place in EVE as a "summon magical love ponies" button.
Elvis Fett
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-07-17 16:56:03 UTC
Your idea is not going to be received well. It has been suggested before and shot down before. Arena combat has little place in EVE is the general consensus.

Ginseng Jita
PAN-EVE TRADING COMPANY
#4 - 2012-07-17 16:56:33 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
This idea is about as out of place in EVE as a "summon magical love ponies" button.


Well, how would it be out of place? It is just a consent button that tells Concorde it is a friendly duel. Also, unless I am mistaken, there are many things in EVE that are in the realm of magical ponies. So I don't think it is beyond the game to incorporate something like this.
Thronde
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2012-07-17 16:57:11 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
This idea is about as out of place in EVE as a "summon magical love ponies" button.



That about sums it up. There already is one, it's called Undock.
Ginseng Jita
PAN-EVE TRADING COMPANY
#6 - 2012-07-17 16:57:20 UTC
Elvis Fett wrote:
Your idea is not going to be received well. It has been suggested before and shot down before. Arena combat has little place in EVE is the general consensus.




Why is dueling so bad?
Quaaid
Phoenix Foundry
#7 - 2012-07-17 16:58:13 UTC
I think in a pvp oriented sandbox game it's sinful to not have a mechanic to orchestrate these (and other match type) scenarios at will. All current mechanics that could be attributed to this are flawed as it relies on the integrity of the people involved.

No true testing can occur outside of groups that have earned high levels of trust with each other.
Benjamin Eastwood
#8 - 2012-07-17 16:58:14 UTC
There is nothing in EVE considered to be in the realm of magical ponies, save for Test alliance try-hard space.

"Endless ISK, the sinews of war"

Serena Serene
Heretic University
#9 - 2012-07-17 16:58:28 UTC
I don't think a "hey Concord, it's okay if that guy shoots at me for this duel"-button would be a bad thing.
I don't think it should automatically prevent ship destruction, though.
Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-07-17 17:00:47 UTC
Welp, everybody could install the Sisi client and duke it out as much as they want with zero risk involved.

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.

Emperor Salazar
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#11 - 2012-07-17 17:03:50 UTC
Drop a can.
Smoking Blunts
ZC Omega
#12 - 2012-07-17 17:05:18 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
This idea is about as out of place in EVE as a "summon magical love ponies" button.



i really want this button now, dam you and your magical ponies

OMG when can i get a pic here

Ginseng Jita
PAN-EVE TRADING COMPANY
#13 - 2012-07-17 17:06:35 UTC
Emperor Salazar wrote:
Drop a can.


Really....really...Shocked
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-07-17 17:09:10 UTC
As long as it's restricted to "click butan, get mutual aggression", yes, why not. But no safe zones, no instances, no forced ship or equipment restrictions, no stopping ship destruction, nothing that wouldn't happen in a canflip scenario.
Ginseng Jita
PAN-EVE TRADING COMPANY
#15 - 2012-07-17 17:13:12 UTC
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
As long as it's restricted to "click butan, get mutual aggression", yes, why not. But no safe zones, no instances, no forced ship or equipment restrictions, no stopping ship destruction, nothing that wouldn't happen in a canflip scenario.


Exaclty...nothing special...just mutual aggression - no special room or arena...just start shooting.
Sugar Kyle
Middle Ground
#16 - 2012-07-17 17:13:41 UTC
As a concept I can see the appeal. However, it creates a tiny personal instemce and safety. No more worries about their corp mates. No worry about ship destruction. No chance to screw up with not looting the can at the proper time.

Where is the risk? Next people will want a ranking system and duel reports and then they declare that PvP has no need outside of honorable duels where real people only fight evenly matched foes.

It is too slippery slope.

Member of CSM9 and CSM10.

Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#17 - 2012-07-17 17:15:04 UTC
Ginseng Jita wrote:
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
As long as it's restricted to "click butan, get mutual aggression", yes, why not. But no safe zones, no instances, no forced ship or equipment restrictions, no stopping ship destruction, nothing that wouldn't happen in a canflip scenario.


Exaclty...nothing special...just mutual aggression - no special room or arena...just start shooting.


If all you want is to be able to pewpew without having to deal with ******** game mechanics, you do that by leaving highsec / lowsec, not by introducing more ******** game mechanics.

I spar pretty much every time I log in. Nullsec is nice, no stupidity to stand between you and your fun.
YuuKnow
The Scope
#18 - 2012-07-17 17:16:39 UTC
No.

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THE L0CK
Denying You Access
#19 - 2012-07-17 17:18:49 UTC
Why fix what isn't broke. The can's have worked just as well as your little button for the past decade without the worry of seeing 20 pop ups from the spazmatic wonder over yonder.

Do you smell what the Lock's cooking?

Lord Ryan
True Xero
#20 - 2012-07-17 17:18:57 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
This idea is about as out of place in EVE as a "summon magical love ponies" button.




I want a Magical Love Pony!

Do not assume anything above this line was typed by me. Nerf the Truth, it's inconvenient.

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