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Black OPs and Wormehole enhancement idea

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Zuteh
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2011-09-28 20:07:40 UTC
So I got this idea to enhance the too-expensive-to-be-usefull Black Ops and at the same time give WH life a tad more predictability. I'm not asking for EZ mode for WHs so appropiate restrictions of course.

Black Ops get the ability to fit a Wormehole Generator. The Wormehold Generator can channel the Dark Energy from the W-space surroundings and concentrate it at one point to force a new WH to form.

Some random ideas for features:

  • WH Generator can force a new WH to form at a at random as they do naturally or at selected target region/constellation, maybe with sec restriction
  • WH Generator can act as a Jump Portal, just with WHs, which need a kind of cyno, maybe a group of cynos to properly lock on
  • All the generated WHs can be one way or two way, lots of variations, combine two Black OPs etc
  • Need Dark Matter as fuel, only found in W-space, Sleeper Harvester drones have been observed to mine it



Really lots of combinations to this to make it a little more fun. Comments appreciated.
Solinuas
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2011-09-28 20:50:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Solinuas
OH GOD NO, really, if you want blacops to NOT suck add covops cloak and your done

dont mess WH's up by trying to fix a ship that is an easy fix
Zuteh
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3 - 2011-09-29 00:01:51 UTC
Solinuas wrote:
OH GOD NO, really, if you want blacops to NOT suck add covops cloak and your done

dont mess WH's up by trying to fix a ship that is an easy fix


Easy add cov ops cloak AND Wormehole Generator, with appropriate drawbacks.
Apaco lypse
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2011-09-29 03:10:41 UTC
What about making a WH Generator a POS mod instead that can only be anchored in unknown systems?
Khersei
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2011-09-29 10:39:15 UTC
Not going to happen.

but if it did it would use isogen-5.
Ingvar Angst
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
#6 - 2011-09-29 11:46:22 UTC
The last thing we need in wormholes is nerfing the logistics. It's difficult for a reason. Suck it up or go back to empire.

Six months in the hole... it changes a man.

Zuteh
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#7 - 2011-09-29 23:40:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Zuteh
Ingvar Angst wrote:
The last thing we need in wormholes is nerfing the logistics. It's difficult for a reason. Suck it up or go back to empire.


It's not a nerf by any means if anything it's an upgrade to logistics. It can be difficult at the same as having possibilities for convenience just need proper balancing, it's time to change the reason for it being difficult. Afraid to get your precious hole invaded?

A WH generator on POSes is a good idea too.
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#8 - 2011-09-30 10:45:56 UTC
Zuteh wrote:
Ingvar Angst wrote:
The last thing we need in wormholes is nerfing the logistics. It's difficult for a reason. Suck it up or go back to empire.


It's not a nerf by any means if anything it's an upgrade to logistics. It can be difficult at the same as having possibilities for convenience just need proper balancing, it's time to change the reason for it being difficult. Afraid to get your precious hole invaded?

A WH generator on POSes is a good idea too.


It's only a good idea if everyone who has the ihub upgrade that does exactly this is refunded in full
Jax Mones
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2011-10-10 11:35:28 UTC
Solinuas wrote:
OH GOD NO, really, if you want blacops to NOT suck add covops cloak and your done

dont mess WH's up by trying to fix a ship that is an easy fix


Yea.. Why the Black Ops dosent have covops cloak is beyond me
Stealth Bomber - CovOps
Force Recon - CovOps
Black Ops - ******

Giving Black Ops a CovOps cloak would make a true covert fleet possible
Maybe add cloaking 5 as a requierment to flying it, to compensate for its new style



Adding WH generator would remove some of the nostalgia of a WH
But if they'd want to add it, i'd limit to only be able to create a connection from 1 WH to another
Sir Substance
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2011-10-10 12:21:24 UTC
Zuteh wrote:
Afraid to get your precious hole invaded?


You do understand the concept of supply and demand, yes?

Then can you wrap your head around the market consequences of wormhole living being more predictable and less expensive?

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Di Mulle
#11 - 2011-10-10 14:19:21 UTC
Sir Substance wrote:
Zuteh wrote:
Afraid to get your precious hole invaded?


You do understand the concept of supply and demand, yes?

Then can you wrap your head around the market consequences of wormhole living being more predictable and less expensive?


Still can't see how "concept of supply and demand" says why wormhole living MUST be "more predictable and less expensive". From an abstract point of view it may as well say opposite.
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Ingvar Angst
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
#12 - 2011-10-10 17:21:24 UTC
Wormholes aren't meant to have easy access for massive fleets. This isn't null, this is -1.0. If the challenges of wormhole logistics are too difficult for you then you belong in simpler space.

Six months in the hole... it changes a man.

Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
The Revenant Order
#13 - 2011-10-11 00:06:34 UTC
This is by far the worst of the terribad ideas I've seen yet. Don't make WHS easy to access.

If you want to un**** the Black Ops, add the capability of fitting a Covert Ops Cloaking Device.

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