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Sitreba Oonchevkii
#1 - 2012-07-12 17:33:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Sitreba Oonchevkii
i think capsuleers are reaching the point where we are more powerful then the four empires in New Eden. we have more sovereignty, more ships and more supercaps. we're immortal, cybernetically enhanced and can inject knowledge into our own minds. Our systems have better ores, planets and moons. all we need to do is get capital ships into hisec and we can conquer New Eden! i think it's time for an uprising. its time to take over New Eden! Twisted

btw this is from a fiction standpoint. something tells me game mechanics wouldn't allow this Cry

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Teinyhr
Ourumur
#2 - 2012-07-12 20:28:42 UTC
They will just batphone to CONCORD and we'll be screwed. :(
Tykari
The Observatory
#3 - 2012-07-12 20:59:49 UTC
Teinyhr wrote:
They will just batphone to CONCORD and we'll be screwed. :(


The Elder Fleet more than proved that CONCORD is not invincible when faced with overwhelming force. Granted game mechanics dictate otherwise, but in terms of the fiction.

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Viktor Fyretracker
Emminent Terraforming
#4 - 2012-07-12 21:45:25 UTC
in terms of fiction I think the empire navies still greatly outnumber us and have way more firepower. Keep in mind for gameplay purposes the NPCs are idiots.

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Che Biko
Alexylva Paradox
#5 - 2012-07-12 22:20:00 UTC
And Kuvakei proved that we are a divided bunch.
And besides, as you mentioned 0.0 is where the riches are, so why bother conquering empire if you could conquer your 0.0 neighbour.

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Sitreba Oonchevkii
#6 - 2012-07-12 22:49:17 UTC
Che Biko wrote:
And Kuvakei proved that we are a divided bunch.
And besides, as you mentioned 0.0 is where the riches are, so why bother conquering empire if you could conquer your 0.0 neighbour.


i wasn't bringing up a logical reason to conquer the empires, i was just explaining that it is possible for capsuleers to do it

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Esna Pitoojee
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#7 - 2012-07-13 00:32:34 UTC
There's also one critical thing, which is that capsuleers do not posses the ability to produce an infinite number of capsules.

So they couldn't take us down in space? Fine. That doesn't change the fact that it would only take one disaffected crew-person to sabotage dozens if not more of the stored capsules capsuleers do have, and if you're talking about attacking the Big 4 and CONCORD, there are going to be a lot of disaffected crew about.
Tavin Aikisen
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#8 - 2012-07-13 01:20:42 UTC
Remember the scale of the population in game is not properly represented. In a world of trillions and trillions of people, we only represent a few ten thousand. Not much at all.

From a metagame standpoint, the Elder fleet really pushed the limits of the fiction.

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AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
#9 - 2012-07-13 10:44:06 UTC
Classic case of someone coming up with an idea for a story, and getting slapped down due to "The Lore" .

Just write it. And keep writing it until YOU are happy with it.

Thanking you in advance for wishing to write a story for the community to read.

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AK

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Evet Morrel
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-07-13 11:49:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Evet Morrel
Sitreba Oonchevkii wrote:
Che Biko wrote:
And Kuvakei proved that we are a divided bunch.
And besides, as you mentioned 0.0 is where the riches are, so why bother conquering empire if you could conquer your 0.0 neighbour.


i wasn't bringing up a logical reason to conquer the empires, i was just explaining that it is possible for capsuleers to do it
What you're hearing is the largely loyalist eve rp cognoscenti. However there's lots of fan fiction that regards the Empires as the distopic hell each one undoubtedly is, and .... that it's the goal of each capsuleer to break free/institute a new vision for the future of mankind - usually equally flawed. This is very fertile ground for fiction; it sharpens the ideological discussions that accompany each and allows the established assumptions to be challenged, reinvigorated, or re-imagined, +1 to the op.
Celeste Lovette
#11 - 2012-07-14 10:47:27 UTC
I think that Empires just rule capsuleers has they want, because clone technologies is in their hands.

If massive forces of podpilots attack Empires they just having to block the habilities jump back in Empire (safe) so is quick death for most of them. Even if some have own stations and Empires of capsuleers, we know that Pod pilots are not united so they will be destroyed.

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Tavin Aikisen
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#12 - 2012-07-14 11:00:20 UTC
Celeste Lovette wrote:
I think that Empires just rule capsuleers has they want, because clone technologies is in their hands.

If massive forces of podpilots attack Empires they just having to block the habilities jump back in Empire (safe) so is quick death for most of them. Even if some have own stations and Empires of capsuleers, we know that Pod pilots are not united so they will be destroyed.


Pretty much. And this is also to justify the game mechanics of why we can't just take over the in-game world.

But at the same time nothing is entirely impossible. Just come up with clever ways to do it when you write. Don't just write it for the sake of writing it either.

We saw a Gallente super-carrier collide with a station. Yet in-game mechanics prevent this. Station shield codes and collision detection all prevent this and are justified with lore. BUT we saw it in some fiction to a certain extent. It didn't give an excuse for EVERYONE to do it (that'd unbalance the lore and the game). But it was enough for us to get a sense of what something radical would be like. :)

"Remember this. Trust your eyes, you will kill each other. Trust your veins, you can all go home."

-Cold Wind
Evet Morrel
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-07-14 12:56:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Evet Morrel
Conventions are there to be bent out of shape a little, take a prolific/great fan fic writer like Kirith Kodachi. In his Fiction Friday he had a pilgrim cyno an Archon into an Empire system, Shocked- and it really upsets your legitimate expectation highening the dramatic impact of the event very effectively. I was incensed but enjoyed the whole thing thoroughly Big smile.

nb. The objection always raised is clone tec, (medical clones) but it didn't prevent Sansha Kuvakei to name but one. You see it's happened already, and will no doubt continue to happen.
Che Biko
Alexylva Paradox
#14 - 2012-07-14 19:26:07 UTC
Oh, I guess I did not get the OP. I didn't read it as an idea for a story, but as a possible scenario supported by arguments. Therefor I brought forth counter-arguments. And I still consider my arguments to have a negative effect on the possibility of this scenario taking place.

It is not my intention to discourage someone from writing any story, it's not like I have to read them, after all.
If this was indeed an idea for a story, consider my statements something to consider when writing.
For all I know, CONCORD could very well do something to unite the capsuleers against it, and I think that would make a better story than just outright ignoring my arguments altogether and magically make all capsuleers band together and conquer empire for no reason but that they can.

I think motive is an important aspect in stories, and this has nothing to do with 'Lore Loyalism'.

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Benjamin Eastwood
#15 - 2012-07-14 20:34:00 UTC
If every corporate force in null sec, and every capsuleer in high sec, descended on empire space, it would be a mess, but eventually, they'd be driven back. That's not to say it wouldn't be a battle of epic and ground breaking proportions.

But what would unite all the capsuleer pilots in such a way as to progress to such events?

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Evet Morrel
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-07-15 08:22:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Evet Morrel
Che Biko wrote:
...
My comment concerning the incursions wasn't a snipe or directed at your contribution, honestly. I think the comments you made 'were' pretty neutral. Of course my own stories are overtly critical of empire - that's bound to give a certain flavour to my perspective ... However, I wouldn't underestimate the power of lore loyalism, especially amongst predominantly male obsessive compulsives Smile I guess you may have been addressing AlleyKat in any case.
Evet Morrel
Doomheim
#17 - 2012-07-15 17:29:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Evet Morrel
Celeste Lovette wrote:
I think that Empires just rule capsuleers has they want, because clone technologies is in their hands....
I wrote:
nb. The objection always raised is clone tec, (medical clones) but it didn't prevent Sansha Kuvakei to name but one. You see it's happened already, and will no doubt continue to happen.
Looks like this is about to change with clone blue prints?
Flair Tachyon
Toon Invasion Terror Squad
#18 - 2012-07-16 14:27:32 UTC
Cloneing technology has not been a concord or even empire monopoly for nearly as long as there are capsuleers.

There are public cloning services on many pirate faction stations, and of corse the private nullsec outposts.

Also it is debateble if the ship based cloning facilitys are "jump clone only" for gameplay reasons or if they may even hold medical clones lore wise.

The most likely reason why there is no organised capsuleer invasion into the empires is probably because no one is paying us for burning them down like they do with the pirates/sleepers/incursions. If the proper incentive arises the empires may be hard pressed to keep operational fleets in the long run.
And of corse it remains to be seen how loyal the nullsec personel on all non empire assets is to their owners.
Telegram Sam
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2012-07-17 12:51:32 UTC
On the other hand, in this EVE chronicle a capsuleer and his corp force an entire Gallente planet to do their will: Xenocracy. That story makes one wonder how much effective control the four states really have over their planets.