EVE General Discussion

One thing Goons like is newbies. Gotta give them that one wihtout a doubt.

If those newbies banded together they would be a rather frightening force. My first fleet combat action years ago was busting up a 3rd Front Alliance gate camp on the Reblier gate in 6-C. Twenty newbies in frigates most of us didn't have the skills to adequately fly took out a Megathron. The camp scattered leaving five of us still in ships. I had no idea what was going on other than things were exploding and I was orbiting this really big ship and shooting lasers. The exhilaration high afterwards was pretty incredible. Combat results back then were still measured in raw numbers rather that ship values so 3FA chest beat that it was their victory, but two week old newbies in with a fleet worth a fraction of that Megathron held the gate in the end.

I wish we had the fancy killboards we have today back then so that battle could be immortalized.

Newbies when properly motivated and mentored are dangerous, just ask Shrike or Malaku (Kill that rifter! Kill those rifters!). The Eve-Online community at large is too busy spitting on them to see the value of treating newbies respectfully.

Well there's a lot of industry in high-sec, NPC corps, mining corps. I wouldn't say I know of many real PvP corps (except merc corps and RvB with their wargames), because there's no real PvP in high-sec (I don't count suicide jockeys and the wardecs in high-sec as being real PvP, maybe I've seen the wrong war decs). So you expect all the peeps from NPC corps, mining corps, solo corps, industry corps to jump in ships and tackle someone like the Goons and associates. Yeah right keep dreaming.

Is there any corp/alliance big enough to tackle Goons and all their associates now? I doubt it somehow and even if there was would they bother if they're not being bothered.

As for Hulkageddon there's a lot of us in high-sec it does not even effect, which is another reason I can't see high-sec rising up as you would like to see. Sure PvPers would like to see high-sec PvPing but you can't force them too, it's not like the real world when pressure is applied because they always have a choice when it's a game.

This will probably be my only post in this thread because really I need to get back to doing my chemistry labs that are due tomorrow.

I feel this whole post of "newer players can't experience lowsec" is just false. Nullsec seems to require some social networking but lowsec doesn't. I think I first jumped into lowsec with about 1 million SP. I'm not even really sure because I didn't wait for some magic SP number. At any rate not knowing anything about the game or the situation I hopped into lowsec after playing in highsec for about 3 weeks. It was stupid of me to go through the Ossogur -> Amamake gate but I did because I didn't know any better. Luckily enough the gate camp there was pretty crappy as I was able to turn around with my AB on and land back in Ossogur with my rifter in flames. After that I merely docked and found a different route.

Since then I can tell you that the gate camp on that specific gate is only really there about 60% of the time. It can be easily scanned out if you are leaving. Plus there are different routes. For the most part I operate half in lowsec and half in highsec and I've been only playing about a month.

Lowsec is accessible to new players. Especially with faction warfare giving you a reason to actually go there. Now I may not be as effective as a higher SP character in lowsec, but that is true in highsec as well. There is not much a difference to me. The biggest difference is that people shoot at me more often in lowsec than in highsec. Eh whatever.

Funny how you say that given that when they TRIED that in highsec the entire wardec system gets a TOTALLY UNASKED FOR revamp.
Cause fighting back is "too fair"



OR CCP's ability to change it so they CANT

All that does is makes ppl not wanna join player corps cause someone is fairly obviously gaming the system here lol

Yeah, generally anytime Tarsus posts

You know what ? I actually really like this idea - it only makes sense too...

After all, Gates are supposedly connected a quantumn encapsulation/fluid router aren't they ?
If so - the ability to get details from the other side should be possible - after all, it follows the same logic that lets us get 'traffic control' warnings about congested systems and closed gates.

There could even be some science skill, quantum interferometry - level 1 would show you that there are things on the other side of the gate, level 2 might show you an actual average number for the last 15 minutes, up to lvl 5 which would give you a number of ships plus ship class/
The trade off would be that you'd never get political information, so it wouldn't say if it was a red/neutral/npc blob.

It's an interesting thought and something that I think would fit into the current backstory.

Oh dear. Youre clearly a rebel without a cause.

ya then the players will educate then and theyll have GOOD reasons to stay out

As far as I know, there are a number of newbro training programs that get players acclimated to null-sec as soon as they start playing.

I have met members of TEST who have only spent - seriously - an hour or two total in high-sec their entire EVE career. They joined Dreddit after reading about TEST and EVE in general, and after finishing the tutorials podded themselves straight to 1DH/6VDT. If you are a player looking to move into low-sec or null-sec, there are people who will accommodate you. Do current game mechanics make that transition viable for a new player to make on their own? No. Is it possible for anyone with an interest to move out of high-sec with the assistance of others? Absolutely.