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A POS for solo or a small scale corporation. Is it possible?

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Aston Bradley
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2011-10-10 12:57:04 UTC
Very interested in those bubbled stations, but i don't know much about them.

I know that most moons in lowsec are taken, so there is no using a POS for that i guess.

My questions are :

1) Is a POS worth using for solo? Of so how?

2) Can i use a POS to support my corp (Not an industrial corp, we mainly go Incurs and roam PvP)? If so i can it be used? What kind of POS should i go for?>

3) Read about using a POS for solo in WH space. Would like to know how it works.

4) Overall what can i get from building and managing a POS?

I know these a totally noob questions, but i honestly know nothing about POSs aside from the fact that big corporations use them to mine moons and protect their Dreads and titans.

[i]FiS should be the priority, but WiS should not be burried!

Don't encourage CCP to make empty promises or Incarna will happen again![/i]
Louis deGuerre
The Dark Tribe
#2 - 2011-10-10 13:32:04 UTC
1) Not really. It is very expensive to setup and to run, and unless it is a large one, easily destroyed. A large POS takes a little more effort than a normal or small one, but it is not safe either. In highsec killing a POS is a lot of work as no capital ships can be used, but it can be done.

2) There is no point really. In 0.0 your POS will be killed in no time, unless the space owners allow it. In lowsec and highsec you're better of using a regular station.

3) In WH space there are no stations. So you are forced to setup a POS as a base of operations. The alternative is living out of containers. It is possible (once did it for a month in 0.0) but not really realistic as anchorable container cargo volume is tiny.

4) The only reason to set up a POS, unless you want to live in WH space or 0.0 space without a station, would be to set up a small POS for BPO research in highsec. By small POS the tower size is indicated btw.

Some links
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Starbase
http://www.eve-guides.com/poss/FirstPOS.php
Beginners Guide to Starbases (POS)

POS Setups: Jump Bridge/Cyno Jam/Reactions, Moon Mine/Mining, Labs, WH <-- advanced material
Chal0ner
Hideaway Hunters
The Hideaway.
#3 - 2011-10-10 14:25:23 UTC
Louis deGuerre wrote:

4) The only reason to set up a POS, unless you want to live in WH space or 0.0 space without a station, would be to set up a small POS for BPO research in highsec.


This is the only reason I would think of for 1 person or a small corp.
Finding research slots can be a major PITA, so having one for oneself to research bp's is very nice.

I wouldn't put up a one man POS* in low, null or wh-space. The reason being that if someone wants it down, it goes down and you have no chance of stopping it.

* as opposed to as a personal POS in friendly surroundings.
CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
#4 - 2011-10-10 17:33:44 UTC
Hello Aston Bradley,

You ask if a POS can be profitable for solo players. Yes, if you know what you are doing, it can be pretty profitable actually.

You can do blueprint research and sell the researched blueprints for profit, or you can do blueprint copies and sell those copies for profit. If you are a bit more adventurous, you can go to low sec and start doing moon harvesting (the good moons are usually gone or hard to defend as you already mentioned) or moon material reactions - this can be good income.

But you need to know what you are doing, you also need to have the isk to start such a business in the first place. And of course you must know the risks.

But yes, it CAN be profitable to run a POS solo. It would be easier and more fun though if you band together with some friends and do it in a group.

CCP Phantom - Senior Community Developer
Aston Bradley
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2011-10-10 19:35:10 UTC
CCP Phantom wrote:
Hello Aston Bradley,

You ask if a POS can be profitable for solo players. Yes, if you know what you are doing, it can be pretty profitable actually.

You can do blueprint research and sell the researched blueprints for profit, or you can do blueprint copies and sell those copies for profit. If you are a bit more adventurous, you can go to low sec and start doing moon harvesting (the good moons are usually gone or hard to defend as you already mentioned) or moon material reactions - this can be good income.

But you need to know what you are doing, you also need to have the isk to start such a business in the first place. And of course you must know the risks.

But yes, it CAN be profitable to run a POS solo. It would be easier and more fun though if you band together with some friends and do it in a group.


Well yes, i would like to do it with my corp mates, but i am wondering if solo is also an option if they don't feel like doing it.

So i guess the BPO production in highsec is the best option than.

Thank you all for the information.

[i]FiS should be the priority, but WiS should not be burried!

Don't encourage CCP to make empty promises or Incarna will happen again![/i]
Martyr Theos
The NecroMonger Faith
#6 - 2011-10-14 02:53:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Martyr Theos
Aston Bradley wrote:
CCP Phantom wrote:
Hello Aston Bradley,

You ask if a POS can be profitable for solo players. Yes, if you know what you are doing, it can be pretty profitable actually.

You can do blueprint research and sell the researched blueprints for profit, or you can do blueprint copies and sell those copies for profit. If you are a bit more adventurous, you can go to low sec and start doing moon harvesting (the good moons are usually gone or hard to defend as you already mentioned) or moon material reactions - this can be good income.

But you need to know what you are doing, you also need to have the isk to start such a business in the first place. And of course you must know the risks.

But yes, it CAN be profitable to run a POS solo. It would be easier and more fun though if you band together with some friends and do it in a group.


Well yes, i would like to do it with my corp mates, but i am wondering if solo is also an option if they don't feel like doing it.

So i guess the BPO production in highsec is the best option than.

Thank you all for the information.



Don't waste your time and isk on POS in lowsec/zero as a small Corp. You are dead and lost the day you set it up.. you just don't know it yet. On the other hand, if your Corp is joining an alliance that has several hundred pilots in it, you may last a few days. I'm not sure even then why anyone would want to do it, since in order to do so you will have to pay the alliance a ridiculous amount of rent and that pretty much renders your Corp nothing but slaves on a plantation. Of course the Plantation owners will tell you all kinds of tales of fortunes to be made... anything to get you to join their cannon fodder ranks to defend their turf while they pocket all the mining revenue from the moons. Beware the advice of Devs.
Toshiro GreyHawk
#7 - 2011-10-14 08:00:01 UTC

Wellll ... it's like this ...

Is there any one who could run a POS by themselves - yeah - I'm sure there is. Note Phantom's remark about ... if you really know what you're doing ...

Could you or I do it ... probably not.

Suppose ... for example ... that your job was to play EVE ... that you got paid to log in every day and play this game. Well ... yeah ... if you'd been at it for five or six years and had set up lots of POS's, and blown them up ... you might well have enough experience to ... really know what you're doing.

Plus ... there could be some players out there who ... really know what they're doing ... and maybe they could do it ...

The thing is - you don't just set up a POS - you have to supply it ...

Look up what it takes to keep one running - and then envision yourself doing all that - by your self.



Now ... if you want to give it a try - go to Singularity the Test Server - and build one (things are really cheap on the test server) - then see what's involved in keeping it running. Gain some experience and then - come back and you'll at least be able to tell the other guys in your corporation ... how to do it and what it's good for. You may well not be able to find a use for one ... but - you'll have learned something and ... later on when you might really have a use for a POS - that experience might come in handy.

Just ... be aware ... that all this fooling around with POS's is apt to use up a good chunk of your time. Just using the test server is it's own little can of worms ...

But if you're really interested ... it's something you could do.




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KrakizBad
Section 8.
#8 - 2011-10-14 08:15:01 UTC
Toshiro GreyHawk wrote:
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O.o Wow that was painful.

Anyway, it is not hard for a single person to run a single POS, or for that matter, multiple POS's in hisec. Each tower has the fuel bay to hold 2 weeks worth of fuel more or less, so a few hours a month with a hauler (freighter if possible) will keep them well fed and active. Fuel is expensive though, so have a good profit potential from your POS mapped out before you do it.

Setting them up is a royal pain, but once up, they don't take much to keep going, and unless you're really unlucky, few people care enough to wardec you to take out your POS in hisec.
pussnheels
Viziam
#9 - 2011-10-14 10:07:13 UTC
i guess as a temporary support base even in low sec yes probably safer than getting camped in a npc station
And with some good defences yes ifit is only temporary
in high sec your corp need a faction standing of atleast 5.0

But think on the costs of buying the pos and module and also the logistic it needs fuel , lots of it and that can be costy
plus you need to take it down and haul it each time you move ,
Last time i erected a medium pos for research it took me 4 hours just to anchor and online the pos and all the modules

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David Grogan
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2011-10-14 13:12:57 UTC  |  Edited by: David Grogan
right now running any pos is gonna be too expensive to make it worthwhile (thanks to goons and their campaign to kill all miners)

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KrakizBad
Section 8.
#11 - 2011-10-17 01:41:54 UTC
David Grogan wrote:
right now running any pos is gonna be too expensive to make it worthwhile (thanks to goons and their campaign to kill all miners)


This is not the case, and absolutely why you should run your own numbers before making up your mind. Listening to hyperbole is also ill advised.