EVE General Discussion

I agree somewhat with what I think you're trying to say, that being that a lot of the control of an engagement is placed in the hands of a gate camper, but I disagree with your horrible ideas for solving the problem.

The thing with nullsec chokepoints is that they are usually regional gates. Regional gates are big and you will generally jump in and find yourself outside of the range of a single interdictor bubble. Therefore regional gates take somewhat more effort to camp than smaller intra-constellation gates. High traffic systems like EC-P8R will frequently be 'rapecaged' with many anchorable bubbles. Very often, due to this tactic, if you want to kill anything coming through the gate you will have to place your ship inside the warp bubble too, which means that if anything comes through which you can't handle you either have to get out of the bubble or crash the gate.

I don't like your ideas for arbitrary damage reductions around these gates, or anything else. The solution is and always has been to just create more alternate routes around easily camped starsystems.

Confirming plenty of derp in this thread.

I think youre missing the point. If you want to et into low/null you have to organised. Either you go in solo and at times and places where you avoid the camps OR you make friends and go break the camps.

No, Null is for:

Solo Players (new or old) with problem solving skills

or

Anyone (new or old) with social skills (ie they made freinds, friends with GUNS).

If the "new blood" isn't smart enough to adapt to the above conditions, there are plenty of themepark "hold your hand" games that they are more suited for.

Yes!, Because jumping blindly into LOWSEC should be rewarded. Make 1 freind who can fly a shuttle to scout for you = problem solved.

I think these old geezers are more against allowing everyone and his dog to roam around the space they work to protect/control. If you want to explore the game the focus should be to make friends and work as a team to do that. Isn't that what the campers have done to get to that position in the first place?

As far as low is concerned, it's the shoot everything in the face that moves mentality. That and it's horribly laid out, serves no purpose other than to shoot faces or host a bunch of ****-stars beccause that's pretty much all that's there. Industry is a waste of time there as the rewards aren't worth the risk. As soon as someone discovers an indy corp there, expect constant harrassment until they end up moving back out. It's not only the few denizens, they call themselves pirates, that live there but any highsec wardeccing corp of size that likes to roam the area as well. Then of course there are the lowsec systems anywhere near a null entrance, avoid at all costs if you're a small corp as you'll be curbstomped, especially if the nearby null blocs have a moon harvesting array in the system. They don't care if you're simply living in an npc station and exploiting the belts or planetary resources, they don't want you there.

Then of course there's the displaced, recently or otherwise, null corps/alliances that crash your party because they're looking for a new home and are a bit moody. As someone that's been fed up with highsec for a long time, moving to lowsec has been a bigger pain in the ass than null. In null, it's possible to get "10 jumps in" and noone give a damn that you're there or even notice. It's possible to go days without seeing a soul. Try that in lowsec, it won't happen because the layout of space for most regions sucks. Lowsec is so bad, CCP had to move L5's and FW there just to get people to go. Missions and ratting really don't pay much more than highsec and it's the same crap loot and salvage anyway.

The constant threat of being roflstomped at any moment and the rewards there do not scale. I move around fairly well in lowsec, never been caught but had a few close calls. I've never lost a ship there either, missioned, ninja mining ops, been living there for a while, still not worth the trouble. I find myself asking why I even bother risking it, it doesn't make any sense to live there. I guess because I'm stubborn and really wanted to make it work. Trouble is, it's really hard to justify even as stubborn as I am.

Exactly.

As Thor said.

Also, is this thread related to the other one "Pay to win" ? The two could be merged into one thread.

All gates can be moved through with a few specialized fittings/skills.

How about you find some friends instead and go start shooting these people ?

Stupid.