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IF log in have CAPTCHA (It won't)

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Finde learth
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-07-16 02:03:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Finde learth
SERENITY already have this.

http://i.imgur.com/WjvvO.png

And Horace said Tranquility will have "soon".(I don't have the link because i don't have the microblog account.)

「回复@薛定谔的猫耳朵:1. 欧服会立即启用和国服一样的登陆器,这将是EVE全球统一的登录方式,只不过先在国服上线了;2. 验证码的体验我们近期会修复和优化。」

I have ask Hilmar about this on twitter,still waiting for his response.
https://twitter.com/Finde_learth/status/224528638836604928
Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-07-16 02:05:09 UTC
Finde learth wrote:
SERENITY already have this.

And Horace said Tranquility will have "soon".(I don't have the link because i don't have the microblog account.)

「回复@薛定谔的猫耳朵:1. 欧服会立即启用和国服一样的登陆器,这将是EVE全球统一的登录方式,只不过先在国服上线了;2. 验证码的体验我们近期会修复和优化。」

I have ask Hilmar about this on twitter,still waiting for his response.
https://twitter.com/Finde_learth/status/224528638836604928


now in english?
Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-07-16 02:13:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarsus Zateki
Using two part authentication works really well in Blizzard's line of games. No one that uses an authenticator has been publicly proven to have had their accounts compromised (lots of folks that have lied about having one though and have been hilariously called out by Blizzard GMs after claiming to be hacked). Of course with nearly ten million subscribers to World of Warcraft and several million other players in Diablo 3 there is a huge market for currency and items sourced from stolen accounts. I wonder how large an issue this is in Eve Online.

Either way as a user of an authenticator in my Blizzard games I'd happily support two part authentication in Eve Online, even if it was a just a simple E-Mail code sent to you when you try to log-in through an unfamiliar IP Address and such.

Edit: In before everyone who's afraid of change.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.

Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2012-07-16 02:14:29 UTC
Johan Civire wrote:


now in english?


His post made perfect sense, but if we're being idiots in this thread... you have poor hygiene and dress in a shabby manner.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.

Torneach
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-07-16 02:57:20 UTC
Is it really necessary?
Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-07-16 02:58:32 UTC
That would depend on how frequently Eve-Online accounts are stolen. Up to Screegs really.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.

Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#7 - 2012-07-16 03:01:03 UTC
I'd have no problem with it.

Its not like it would make our lives a frustrating nightmare like the captcha suggestions.

As for when, when CCP thinks it is needed.
Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2012-07-16 03:02:25 UTC
Corina Jarr wrote:

...captcha suggestions...


Careful now, this is CCP we're talking about.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.

Degren
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-07-16 03:11:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Degren
About to leave work, will translate when I get home.

~an hour.

Reserving post, obviously.

Update:

Eh, actually it pretty much just says what OP said. European client will soon use same login system Serenity does, as soon as it's tested and ready for launch.

和国服 - Serenity server/client. @ OP: I'm curious how you would translate Guofu. Or do I have it wrong, is it Heguo meaning serenity server and fu means edition?

Mostly---I'm unfamiliar with the use of Guo in this case.

Hello, hello again.

Viktor Fyretracker
Emminent Terraforming
#10 - 2012-07-16 03:32:55 UTC
Corina Jarr wrote:
I'd have no problem with it.

Its not like it would make our lives a frustrating nightmare like the captcha suggestions.

As for when, when CCP thinks it is needed.



Captcha is a horrible thing. bots still get around it and its scrambled letters can be hard to read.

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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#11 - 2012-07-16 03:45:32 UTC
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
Using two part authentication works really well in Blizzard's line of games. No one that uses an authenticator has been publicly proven to have had their accounts compromised (lots of folks that have lied about having one though and have been hilariously called out by Blizzard GMs after claiming to be hacked).

I lost my Blizzard authenticator, and found it again after about 2 years of playing EVE.

I can vouch that an authenticator is a great way to prevent account access Blink

It is probably 3-5 years old and still works. Good battery.
Degren
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-07-16 04:31:52 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
Using two part authentication works really well in Blizzard's line of games. No one that uses an authenticator has been publicly proven to have had their accounts compromised (lots of folks that have lied about having one though and have been hilariously called out by Blizzard GMs after claiming to be hacked).

I lost my Blizzard authenticator, and found it again after about 2 years of playing EVE.

I can vouch that an authenticator is a great way to prevent account access Blink

It is probably 3-5 years old and still works. Good battery.


Just FYI, the original blizz authenticators were cracked.

Hello, hello again.

Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#13 - 2012-07-16 18:40:28 UTC
Degren wrote:
Just FYI, the original blizz authenticators were cracked.

Not a crack per se, but a man-in-the-middle attack when using a trojan infected key-logging computer, and with a 30 second vulnerability window.

I wonder about people that run random executables, or click on questionable links, or surf without script and pop-up protection, etc.
Finde learth
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2012-07-17 06:20:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Finde learth
http://i.imgur.com/mfr4g.png
XJPNU8 is verified code.

http://i.imgur.com/WjvvO.png

I really don't want see this happen on Tranquility.
Kel Shek
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-07-17 06:56:33 UTC
I think some sorta captcha thing for EVE would be bad and completely unneccessary.

I think an authenticator type deal would be kinda nifty. though realistically, a bit excessive.

if it could be made into a cool keychain though, and no more expensive than the Blizz ones, might be totally worth it.

I mean ultimately there's a lot more at stake in an EVE account than in a WOW account. so it makes a certain amount of sense.
Oberine Noriepa
#16 - 2012-07-17 07:13:10 UTC
Finde learth wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/mfr4g.png
XJPNU8 is verified code.

http://i.imgur.com/WjvvO.png

I really don't want see this happen on Tranquility.

Note that those screenshots feature the launcher and not the client itself. It's not a bad thing in the slightest.

Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#17 - 2012-07-17 07:19:59 UTC
Oberine Noriepa wrote:
Finde learth wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/mfr4g.png
XJPNU8 is verified code.

http://i.imgur.com/WjvvO.png

I really don't want see this happen on Tranquility.

Note that those screenshots feature the launcher and not the client itself. It's not a bad thing in the slightest.


Um, CCP wants to push the login process to the launcher and make the client only character select.

This being a normal thing is a possibility. But I only see it as a bot deterrent for bots that run completely on their own through downtimes too.

The bot users would simply just login manually and let the bot take over form there. It has been said that the Serenity server is over run with bots cause....well we all know the Chinese gold farmer stereotype :3

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Finde learth
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2012-07-17 07:20:58 UTC
Oberine Noriepa wrote:

Note that those screenshots feature the launcher and not the client itself. It's not a bad thing in the slightest.


You can't log in unless you use the launcher log in.
So it means if eve auto restart for any reasons, you need to close the auto restart EVE then use the launcher log in.

That's very annoying.

And the launcher log in won't save your account name.
Vitamin B12
#19 - 2012-07-17 07:50:48 UTC
A feature like this would only harm the normal player.

Bots will simply use a captcha solving service (deathbycaptcha.com for example).

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Chokichi Ozuwara
Perkone
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-07-17 07:56:48 UTC
Captcha does nothing to secure your account. Bots are designed to capture captchas and fire them off to third party solving services (manual and automated) which beat them easily.

Adding this would be stupid. It would be like 2008 all over again.

Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round.

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