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nerf solo pcvp

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Nerf Burger
Doomheim
#21 - 2012-07-14 23:44:42 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Torvin Yulus wrote:
if akestrel can kill a raven then something is really wrong
Yes: the pilot of said Raven is awful.

That is a problem with him, not with the game or its balance.

Welcome to EVE. Bigger is not better around here.
Every other (knowledge based) game is utterly and completely irrelevant because they are not EVE.

Also, 0/10.


Fixed for you.

Kisumii
Astral Acquisitions Inc.
#22 - 2012-07-15 00:05:25 UTC
Frigates are low level? Ive been playing this game 6 years and still use frigs every day. Its not the game thats broken, its you.
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#23 - 2012-07-15 00:28:43 UTC
-1/10 too obvious.

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)

seany1212
M Y S T
#24 - 2012-07-15 00:31:49 UTC
I'm going to go with an old skool one:

"Killmail or GTFO"
Garreth Vlox
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2012-07-15 01:41:11 UTC
Torvin Yulus wrote:

i think that there is a fatal balance issue in this game.



So basically what your saying is you have no ******* idea what you are doing and some guy in a kestrel ****** your raven up? Maybe you should learn to play the game.

The LULZ Boat.

Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
#26 - 2012-07-15 03:45:52 UTC
has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
Rath Kelbore
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#27 - 2012-07-15 04:10:47 UTC
Liafcipe9000 wrote:
has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?


Finally some sense ITT

I plan on living forever.......so far, so good.

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#28 - 2012-07-15 04:39:36 UTC
Large Collidable Object wrote:
I wonder how the Kestrel managed to get through the ravens tank.

Also, what does this have to do with solo? OPs problem relates purely to ship sizes...

Otherwise yes - BS could use a little love, with all the new ship classes and everything around them getting buffed, they tend to get the **** end of the stick way too often...

Yeah I do wonder.. maybe it caught someone with rats beating on them?

I'd love to see a kill with something like an Ibis soloing someone with t2 blasters.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Pipa Porto
#29 - 2012-07-15 04:42:58 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Large Collidable Object wrote:
I wonder how the Kestrel managed to get through the ravens tank.

Also, what does this have to do with solo? OPs problem relates purely to ship sizes...

Otherwise yes - BS could use a little love, with all the new ship classes and everything around them getting buffed, they tend to get the **** end of the stick way too often...

Yeah I do wonder.. maybe it caught someone with rats beating on them?

I'd love to see a kill with something like an Ibis soloing someone with t2 blasters.


That Itty V was able to solo the failfit Mega with much less DPS than a Kestrel puts out, so I suspect an extreme lack of competence on the Raven's side.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto

Rain King
Playing Alone Sucks
#30 - 2012-07-15 06:11:46 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Price Check Aisle3 wrote:
I like how you actually explain to this guy how things work before rating him. tbh, he deserved nothing more than "0/10".
It's more a case of a catch-all answer.

My overall attitude is for every actual troll, there will be 10 people who genuinely believe the same thing, so you might as well respond to the trolls seriously and get the message across to the numpties in the process.


Highly optimistic of you.
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2012-07-15 09:30:54 UTC
Can't tell if trolling...

... Or merely dumbass.
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#32 - 2012-07-15 09:49:13 UTC
Torvin Yulus wrote:
solo pvp is overpowerd

did you know tat one guy in a kestrel can kill someone in a battleship because apparantly they can. a battleship in the real world has lots of point defenses and stuff that let it protect itself from the small ships but in eve my battlesjip has no defense against anythng smaller than a battleship!

if akestrel can kill a raven then something is really wrong wth the game because in every other game you cant be killed by people who are a lowr level than you. kestrel is a frigate and frigates are low level ships for new players so why can a kestrel beat a raven I ask you?

i think that there is a fatal balance issue in this game.


Sorry, the problem is not the Kestrel but the awful Raven pilot.

Lately this week saw some full officer fitted Vindicator kill mail killed by a cruiser, again this idiot could perfectly full officer fit his Vindicator with railguns (not the best choice) not fit a single officer web and couldn't afford to put rigs on that Vindicator, even T1 rigs.

Your Raven has a drone bay, why couldn't you just fit ECM drones gtfo and get back with something pvp fitted to spank his ass?
Probably because you thought that bigger is better, this is so wrong.

brb

Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#33 - 2012-07-15 09:51:19 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Large Collidable Object wrote:
I wonder how the Kestrel managed to get through the ravens tank.

Also, what does this have to do with solo? OPs problem relates purely to ship sizes...

Otherwise yes - BS could use a little love, with all the new ship classes and everything around them getting buffed, they tend to get the **** end of the stick way too often...

Yeah I do wonder.. maybe it caught someone with rats beating on them?

I'd love to see a kill with something like an Ibis soloing someone with t2 blasters.



Officer fitted Velator spits 200dps !! Lol

brb

Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#34 - 2012-07-15 10:01:18 UTC
The problem with solo pvp is that the raven pilot forgot to use a falcon alt.
Really, how are you even supposed to solo pvp without them?

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.

Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#35 - 2012-07-15 10:23:13 UTC
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
The problem with solo pvp is that the raven pilot forgot to use a falcon alt.
Really, how are you even supposed to solo pvp without them?



By flying everywhere else than high sec. Doesn't mean low/null people don't use alts but those are probably sitting at the POS

All OP has to do it spot those alts, buy a couple ships and wait, once they engage someone gank them or simply jam them with a cheapo throwaway T1 cruiser (gank hem is better because usually those dudes are risk averse so they will move on to some other place)

brb

Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#36 - 2012-07-15 10:29:03 UTC
Torvin Yulus wrote:

i think that there is a fatal balance issue in this game.


Actually, a game where a small ship counters a large one, which counters medium ones, who in turn counter small ones, is very nicely balanced. You seem to think larger ships should just be better. That is the very definition of imbalanced.

Big guns for big targets. If a battleship could reliably deal with a frigate, then what would the point of frigates be? Shooting other frigates in a willfully handicapped playstyle? That's plain stupid.

Every ship in EVE has its place. Every ship in EVE is hopelessly vulnerable in at least one situation.
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#37 - 2012-07-15 10:59:10 UTC
Xython wrote:
Can't tell if trolling...

... Or merely dumbass.

I'm going with the latter.
Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#38 - 2012-07-15 11:03:26 UTC
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
The problem with solo pvp is that the raven pilot forgot to use a falcon alt.
Really, how are you even supposed to solo pvp without them?



By flying everywhere else than high sec. Doesn't mean low/null people don't use alts but those are probably sitting at the POS

All OP has to do it spot those alts, buy a couple ships and wait, once they engage someone gank them or simply jam them with a cheapo throwaway T1 cruiser (gank hem is better because usually those dudes are risk averse so they will move on to some other place)


Uhm..yeah.
Thanks for that elaborate answer, Ms. Borovskova.

I am terribly sorry that I always tend to forget how difficult it is to deliver sarcasm over the internet.

Just for the records, wehenver I am saying something incredibly stupid, I am either
a. being sarcastic
b. failing at being sarcastic
c. just dumb
e. failing at trolling
d. drunk
f. just crying for attention because my parents didn't let me keep that puppy when I was little
g. any combination of a-f

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#39 - 2012-07-15 11:04:22 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Torvin Yulus wrote:

i think that there is a fatal balance issue in this game.


Actually, a game where a small ship counters a large one, which counters medium ones, who in turn counter small ones, is very nicely balanced. You seem to think larger ships should just be better. That is the very definition of imbalanced.

Big guns for big targets. If a battleship could reliably deal with a frigate, then what would the point of frigates be? Shooting other frigates in a willfully handicapped playstyle? That's plain stupid.

Every ship in EVE has its place. Every ship in EVE is hopelessly vulnerable in at least one situation.

Titans are different as they are pretty rare, remember.

A coalition might have as many as 50 to 100 titans to call up.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

WonkySplitDemon
Doomheim
#40 - 2012-07-15 11:05:06 UTC
I agree that frigates are not "noob ships" as the OP says. It just so happens that newbies start in frigates. I fly them all the time, frigates are very effective in pvp, especially against bigger, slower targets in swarms.
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