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How Tier 3 Battlecruisers Killed EVE PVP
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Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#81 - 2012-07-14 21:41:23 UTC
JC Anderson wrote:
Because of falcon.


I notice a severe lack of likes on this joke.

R.I.P "Because of Falcon".

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.
Viktor Fyretracker
Emminent Terraforming
#82 - 2012-07-14 21:56:21 UTC
on top of station invulnerability you can build instant jump BMs off stations. second you undock right click on space and warp to your bookmark its instant warp. if you place it just far enough off the station you will be outside kill range or lock range.

EVE is like swimming on a beach in shark infested waters,  There is however a catch...  The EVE Beach you also have to wonder which fellow swimmer will try and eat you before the sharks.
Nerf Burger
Doomheim
#83 - 2012-07-14 22:33:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Nerf Burger
PVP in EVE has always been much more about knowledge and # of accounts than skill. Gain the intelligence you need before undocking and you won't ever have this problem. If it weren't for awful CoD rejects and horrible RTS players, EVE would prob have a lot less "PvPers".
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#84 - 2012-07-14 22:44:07 UTC
Renan Ruivo wrote:
JC Anderson wrote:
Because of falcon.


I notice a severe lack of likes on this joke.

R.I.P "Because of Falcon".


Oh, bru, such a bereavement is no laughing matterBlink

A moment of silence, please, all:

Because of Falcon

b. Sometime in 2005 (IIRC?) -- d. 14 July 2012

Star Wars: the Old Republic may not be EVE. But I'll take the sound of dual blaster-pistols over "NURVV CLAOKING NAOW!!!11oneone!!" any day of the week.
MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#85 - 2012-07-14 23:24:39 UTC
Bree Okanata wrote:
They need to make a T3 BC that is for missiles.


Yeah, can only mount rockets but gets a 100% bonus to rate of fire per level of BattleCruiser skill.

(not sure if I am serious about that though)

This message brought to you by Experience(tm). When common sense fails you, experience will come to the rescue. Experience(tm) from the makers of CONCORD.

"If you are part of the problem, you will be nerfed." -MadMuppet
Pipa Porto
#86 - 2012-07-14 23:39:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Pipa Porto
MadMuppet wrote:
Bree Okanata wrote:
They need to make a T3 BC that is for missiles.


Yeah, can only mount rockets but gets a 100% bonus to rate of fire per level of BattleCruiser skill.

(not sure if I am serious about that though)


Call it the "Server Killer 5001"

(PS: Besides the Server issues, it might be a fun role for a BC hull)

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Shichiro Motokana
Perkone
Caldari State
#87 - 2012-07-15 00:49:33 UTC
thanks for all the entertaining sounding ideas.
Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#88 - 2012-07-15 03:18:51 UTC
what? eve pvp is dead?

  - remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not  "afk" cloaking -

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Alara IonStorm
#89 - 2012-07-15 03:22:48 UTC
Barbara Nichole wrote:
what? eve pvp is dead?

Since the first person jumped blind and solo in a fail fit battleship into a gate camp and realized EVE had forums.
Valerie Tessel
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#90 - 2012-07-15 03:25:15 UTC
Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:
Renan Ruivo wrote:
JC Anderson wrote:
Because of falcon.


I notice a severe lack of likes on this joke.

R.I.P "Because of Falcon".


Oh, bru, such a bereavement is no laughing matterBlink

A moment of silence, please, all:

Because of Falcon

b. Sometime in 2005 (IIRC?) -- d. 14 July 2012

Could "Because of Tornado" be considered the heir to "Because of Falcon"?

Tactical destroyers... I'll take a dozen Gallente, please.
Nikodiemus
Ganja Clade
Shadow Cartel
#91 - 2012-07-15 03:43:55 UTC
Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote:
We're all familiar with the Tier 3 (Hereafter T3) Battlecruisers. They are BCs that can fit BS sized guns and can do quite a bit of damage, although they are frail.

EVE is being invaded by the Call of Duty "Bro" mentality. This mentality is all about "blapping" and "fragging" and "l33t kills" and "noob tubes".



Your formal line of facts, infected by unused phrases and the simple yet obvious "common man here!!" is derailed by the actual EVE players who not only adapt to the game as it changes but have a SAY in how it changes. Instagib has become a sad reality in the game recently but it only encourages players to be at the mouse and observant instead of absent.

The REAL problem is that EVE encourages offline interaction as well as mostly offline player involvement for industry to thrive!
Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
#92 - 2012-07-15 03:52:05 UTC
tell me who blew up your ship with a tornado so I can tell them how much win they are.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#93 - 2012-07-15 04:27:42 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
MadMuppet wrote:
Bree Okanata wrote:
They need to make a T3 BC that is for missiles.


Yeah, can only mount rockets but gets a 100% bonus to rate of fire per level of BattleCruiser skill.

(not sure if I am serious about that though)


Call it the "Server Killer 5001"

(PS: Besides the Server issues, it might be a fun role for a BC hull)

It would really scare frigates, though running up to a battleship and spewing rockets point blank would be great.

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JC Anderson
RED ROSE THORN
#94 - 2012-07-15 04:49:26 UTC
Renan Ruivo wrote:
JC Anderson wrote:
Because of falcon.


I notice a severe lack of likes on this joke.

R.I.P "Because of Falcon".


Time flies and I often forget how old some Eve memes are. And as a result, I forget the fact that many players will have no idea what I am referring to.

But threads like this just remind me of certain things.. Or to be specific.

"Because of falcon."
JC Anderson
RED ROSE THORN
#95 - 2012-07-15 04:53:26 UTC  |  Edited by: JC Anderson
MadMuppet wrote:
Bree Okanata wrote:
They need to make a T3 BC that is for missiles.


Yeah, can only mount rockets but gets a 100% bonus to rate of fire per level of BattleCruiser skill.

(not sure if I am serious about that though)


The Naga actually had the ability to use guns or BS launchers in it's original iteration. But by the time the tier 3's went live on tranquility, it had changed to hybrids only.

On another related note..

Has anybody else noticed how rare sniper hacs have become since the tier 3 bc's were implemented?
Alara IonStorm
#96 - 2012-07-15 05:02:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
JC Anderson wrote:

Time flies and I often forget how old some Eve memes are. And as a result, I forget the fact that many players will have no idea what I am referring to.

It is good to remember your roots.

I have 34million ISK in my wallet and while a lot of people would classify that as poor I know the truth.

I can help two people.
Rain King
Playing Alone Sucks
#97 - 2012-07-15 05:46:32 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
Rain King wrote:
I wouldn't say that they've killed PvP, but they have made ganking retardedly easy. So easy that even HE can do it. But hey, that's where the game is headed, so whatever.


Look up m0o and the Zombies. Ganking has been a part of EvE since Beta. It's just gotten steadily harder/more expensive... which kind of works against your "thought," I guess.


I know all about mOo and the Mara Debacle, aka Sandbox Interrupted. I think we can all agree that was a far different game, more limited in scope and depth. But harder? You're doing it wrong.
Pipa Porto
#98 - 2012-07-15 06:07:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Pipa Porto
Rain King wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Rain King wrote:
I wouldn't say that they've killed PvP, but they have made ganking retardedly easy. So easy that even HE can do it. But hey, that's where the game is headed, so whatever.


Look up m0o and the Zombies. Ganking has been a part of EvE since Beta. It's just gotten steadily harder/more expensive... which kind of works against your "thought," I guess.


I know all about mOo and the Mara Debacle, aka Sandbox Interrupted. I think we can all agree that was a far different game, more limited in scope and depth. But harder? You're doing it wrong.


You're right, it wasn't harder to gank people back then. It was easier, and that's my point.

You claimed that the game is on a path to make ganking "retardedly easy."

It's always been easy to gank the unprepared, and that's always been intended.

In fact, the mechanics of ganking make doing so harder now (since Crucible) harder than it ever was before. Before that it was the numerous CONCORD response time buffs, and increased sec status hits, and finally, at the beginning, there was CONCORD becoming untankable.

Ganking is easy because the victims make it so by refusing to tank or fly their targe... ships appropriately.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Ilnaurk Sithdogron
Blackwater International
#99 - 2012-07-15 06:23:52 UTC
Let me guess... you lost your ship to one of these and you're mad now. Sure sounds that way. Guess what my friend... frigates are pretty cheap, just go get another one. Losing some pixels on a screen isn't the end of the world.

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EvEa Deva
Doomheim
#100 - 2012-07-15 06:25:12 UTC
Stealth bombers, bookmarks, warp dusrupters, and intel