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solo cloaky ships in wormhole space

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Kalel Nimrott
Caldari Provisions
#21 - 2012-06-26 19:26:12 UTC
Bibosikus wrote:
Cloaky Prot is awesome. 1170m/sec, 45k point, 550dps, 140k ehp AND cloaky? What's not to like Smile

It can decloak & point a Tengu farming a C3 site, and buffer tank a whole fresh Sleeper wave at the same time.


Try and kill a drake with dat. Good luck

Bob Artis, you will be missed.

O7

Ivory Kantenu
Apotheosis.
#22 - 2012-06-26 20:10:55 UTC
Gedid Tava wrote:
If I put in the time to get space rich (fairweather gamer at best) then I'd probably roll cloaky Legion. But, as I am not space rich and am also a Nancy who loves tiny boats, I prefer a covops (bombers and probers) any day of the week. I can't remember the last time I intentionally logged out in a boat that wasn't my older-than-dirt Helios.


Unless you're going neut tackle with a small gang, don't bother. Cloaky Legions pretty much pale in comparison.

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Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc.
Hard Knocks Citizens
#23 - 2012-06-28 23:21:39 UTC
R'adeh
Storm Solutions
#24 - 2012-06-28 23:41:35 UTC
Kalel Nimrott wrote:
Bibosikus wrote:
Cloaky Prot is awesome. 1170m/sec, 45k point, 550dps, 140k ehp AND cloaky? What's not to like Smile

It can decloak & point a Tengu farming a C3 site, and buffer tank a whole fresh Sleeper wave at the same time.


Try and kill a drake with dat. Good luck


Easy if you have help from sleepers Roll
joes Bazooka
Doomheim
#25 - 2012-06-29 00:23:32 UTC
Ayeson wrote:
http://kb.hardknocksinc.net/index.php/kill_detail/2084/

Best cloaky imo



That's gold.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#26 - 2012-06-29 02:37:08 UTC
R'adeh wrote:
Kalel Nimrott wrote:
Bibosikus wrote:
Cloaky Prot is awesome. 1170m/sec, 45k point, 550dps, 140k ehp AND cloaky? What's not to like Smile

It can decloak & point a Tengu farming a C3 site, and buffer tank a whole fresh Sleeper wave at the same time.


Try and kill a drake with dat. Good luck


Easy if you have help from sleepers Roll


except you wont because they'll shoot you for using tackle and having much better DPS and tank.
engaging a tengu solo in a proteus is a fantastic way to die horribly since he CAN perma tank you and all he needs is 1 friend with a point.
not to mention that any drake/tengu can just warp off before youre relock timer and lock time is up.

There is no Bob.

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Eternal Error
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2012-06-29 04:19:28 UTC
Pilgrim is fun, but can get you killed fast if he has friends and can be needlessly slow for dumb miners.
Miles Parabellum
Core Collapse Inc
#28 - 2012-06-29 07:54:05 UTC
Pilgrim or, occasionally, torpedo boats.
Tarunik Raqalth'Qui
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2012-06-29 11:15:56 UTC
Eternal Error wrote:
Pilgrim is fun, but can get you killed fast if he has friends and can be needlessly slow for dumb miners.

As someone who's helped kill 'Grims, seconded on the "can get you killed fast if your target has friends" part.
Barrak
The Painted Ones
#30 - 2012-06-29 12:48:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Barrak
Bibosikus wrote:
Cloaky Prot is awesome. 1170m/sec, 45k point, 550dps, 140k ehp AND cloaky? What's not to like Smile

It can decloak & point a Tengu farming a C3 site, and buffer tank a whole fresh Sleeper wave at the same time.



*edit*

have now seen that multiple people have asked for it.
Romvex
TURN LEFT
#31 - 2012-06-29 16:49:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Romvex
[Proteus, Proteus - PVP]

Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Corelum C-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Corelum C-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Corelum C-Type Energized Explosive Membrane
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I

Domination Warp Scrambler
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Corelum C-Type 10MN MicroWarpdrive

Heavy Ion Blaster II, Guardian Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Guardian Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Guardian Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Guardian Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Guardian Antimatter Charge M
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II

Proteus Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration
Proteus Electronics - Friction Extension Processor
Proteus Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
Proteus Propulsion - Localized Injectors
Proteus Defensive - Augmented Plating

you need a scanning alt or corp mate, but this is loads of fun. with an hg slave set this can almost peak 300k ehp Twisted
Gul'gotha Derv'ash
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2012-07-02 20:45:43 UTC
Bibosikus wrote:
Cloaky Prot is awesome. 1170m/sec, 45k point, 550dps, 140k ehp AND cloaky? What's not to like Smile

It can decloak & point a Tengu farming a C3 site, and buffer tank a whole fresh Sleeper wave at the same time.



Mind posting the fit?
Bibosikus
Air
#33 - 2012-07-06 14:55:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Bibosikus
[Proteus, WH Cloaky Proteus]
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer

Gistum C-Type 10MN MicroWarpdrive
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 200

Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M

Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II

Proteus Propulsion - Gravitational Capacitor
Proteus Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration
Proteus Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
Proteus Defensive - Augmented Plating
Proteus Electronics - Friction Extension Processor

138k tank. 560dps with cheap 5% MH-805 implant. Cap stable with 200's but use 400's if neuting is involved. The MWD is debatable - it's only useful for burning in after decloaking & pointing at range. Otherwise, I use a C-Type AB.

Best way to snag an aligned eg. Tengu is to bump/decloak by proximity which can ruin the target's alignment and give you the extra few seconds you need to recalibrate and lock. Doing this in the last wave of an anomaly will get you Sleeper aggro but they do and will switch back to your target.
Tengus are difficult to kill - especially the over-tanked non-prop mod type. But it's doable if you drop two turrets for two med neuts. You drop to about 340dps, but once you've broken the cap tank the Tengu has a pretty low ehp (usually around 35-45k) so he'll still die in a couple of minutes.

Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.

Boober Fraggle
#34 - 2012-07-11 04:50:40 UTC
illy velo wrote:
I used to use a cloaky tengu until I met with a 13 ship hole camp that I couldn't escape. I now stick to my nemesis unless I need to scout quickly and then I use the helios.

It is common knowledge that actually using the bomb launcher isn't the best way to PVP with a stealth bomber, still I get the biggest thrill in taking out salvagers and PI haulers right out from under their escorts with bombs. If done properly it works and is very amusing.


The right tool for the right job. Sometimes you dont need it, sometimes its critical.

my favs...

1. nemesis
2. tengu full covert for c1/2
3. cheetah for scouting.

Hathrul
NED-Clan
Goonswarm Federation
#35 - 2012-07-11 13:26:59 UTC
i love my new cloaky proteus. it can cloak, has a 340k EHP and a 54km point. if it tells you to stay there, you stay there.

it doesnt do any damage what so ever, but its not ment too anyway. with a point stretching over 70 km and 450k ehp when the booster enters the field it can tackle stuff in full sleeper sites and with full aggro survive long enough for the fleet to arrive :)
Kalel Nimrott
Caldari Provisions
#36 - 2012-07-13 18:36:09 UTC
Are solo cloaked stuff actually effective for something bigger than a cruiser/hauler?

Bob Artis, you will be missed.

O7

rogueclone2
MANDALORIAN MOTORS ENGINEERING CORE
#37 - 2012-07-13 20:39:42 UTC
i love the recon tengu Bear . might be a little light on the tank but puts out good dps
Tarunik Raqalth'Qui
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#38 - 2012-07-14 02:26:18 UTC
Kalel Nimrott wrote:
Are solo cloaked stuff actually effective for something bigger than a cruiser/hauler?

Yes and no. You'll be able to tip over failfits (and probably kill Tier3s as well in a cloaky Strategic Cruiser due to their squishiness), but a properly fit and flown Tier2 BC or empire faction cruiser should be able to take a solo cloaky of just about any flavor out, with the exception of perhaps a Pilgrim because of its neuting firepower and TD-reinforced speed/sig tanking ability. HACs and non-cloaky T3s are also best avoided unless you're sure they're say in a ratting fit that's killable due to neuting or suchnot.

Battleships might be a more interesting case, though, mainly due to poor large-weapon damage application, leaving the door open for speed/sig tanking especially if they aren't fitting any webs or painters.
Hathrul
NED-Clan
Goonswarm Federation
#39 - 2012-07-14 13:49:36 UTC
considering a cloaky proteus can do more then 600 dps, or just shy of 500 if it can also probe id say it should be able to break most stuff that flies in low class. with some help from sleepers thinks tend to break fast.
Komen
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2012-07-15 19:33:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Komen
Kalel Nimrott wrote:
Bibosikus wrote:
Cloaky Prot is awesome. 1170m/sec, 45k point, 550dps, 140k ehp AND cloaky? What's not to like Smile

It can decloak & point a Tengu farming a C3 site, and buffer tank a whole fresh Sleeper wave at the same time.


Try and kill a drake with dat. Good luck


Like a baws.

Edit: And then I looked up our proteus-doubting poster.

It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool


than to open it and remove all doubt.
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