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Manly ass Comet

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Atrum Skyhunter
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-07-11 03:43:24 UTC
So I want to use a Comet as essentially a poor man's daredevil. Mostly for solo PvP in FW, hunting down hoez that speed tank Plexes and raining down my manly love upon them. Current idea is a blaster fit with web, ab, tracking disruption, and wd. Suggestions?
ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#2 - 2012-07-11 03:56:45 UTC
heres the fit I use for general PvP
[Federation Navy Comet, PvP]

Damage Control II
200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Adaptive Nano Plating II

Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
Warp Scrambler II

Light Neutron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S
[Empty High slot]

Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Small Anti-Explosive Pump I
Small Trimark Armor Pump I


Warrior II x3

213 DPS with faction antimatter and 8.01k EHP, you get more EHP with 2 trimarks so you might want to change that. For catching plexers if may work, but if they have a shred of competence they will we mashing d-scan and will warp when you enter the site, so you have about 2 seconds to travel 60-80km, also they might have warp core stabs.

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.

Atrum Skyhunter
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-07-11 03:59:36 UTC
Looks like a fun build, no Magnetic Stabilizers?

ACE McFACE wrote:
also they might have warp core stabs.


Wait... People actually fit those?
ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#4 - 2012-07-11 04:02:06 UTC
Atrum Skyhunter wrote:
Looks like a fun build, no Magnetic Stabilizers?

ACE McFACE wrote:
also they might have warp core stabs.


Wait... People actually fit those?

No mag stabs because not enough CPU and if you used a CPU rig or module the fit is worse off. Also people fit the warp core stabs because (at least in minmatar FW) because you dont need to shoot anything to get the LP from the site (unless its a mission site)

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.

Dibblerette
Solitude-Industries
#5 - 2012-07-11 05:48:13 UTC
ACE McFACE wrote:
Atrum Skyhunter wrote:
Looks like a fun build, no Magnetic Stabilizers?

ACE McFACE wrote:
also they might have warp core stabs.


Wait... People actually fit those?

No mag stabs because not enough CPU and if you used a CPU rig or module the fit is worse off. Also people fit the warp core stabs because (at least in minmatar FW) because you dont need to shoot anything to get the LP from the site (unless its a mission site)

That seems a little counter intuitive? I know little about FW, but that just seems silly.

OP, sounds like you might want railguns and some warrior drones to quickly put damage on targets that might be far away. A specialized fit with some drone speed rigs and a DLA would be funny to watch in action. Unfortunately you'd just drive them off most of the time, unless you had an MWD and a nice heated faction point.
Onictus
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#6 - 2012-07-11 06:10:23 UTC
Good luck shoehorning rail on a comet, and for drone silliness a Worm or ishkur is a better choice.

The Comet is great as a speedy brawler, I've used almost that exact fit to good effect in the past.
Jardan D'Arth
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-07-11 06:39:45 UTC
Actually rails work on a Comet. Or seem to at least. Haven't had the chance to fight with it yet admittedly so don't claim any pro skills or anything. My fit has no point,but seems like it could kite all day while chipping away from 30k or so (with my skills,sure others could do better). Not sure it would win many 1v1's ,but looks like it would be hard to beat as well. Just my rookie opinion of course.My fit is;

2x 150mm Railgun 2 - Spike S ammo
1x Drone Link Augmentor 1


1x F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines - Targeting Range Script
1x Drone Navigation Computer 1
1x 1MN Afterburner 2


1x Co-Processor 2
1x Overdrive Injector System 2
1x Nanofiber Internal Structure 2
1x Magnetic Stabilizer 2

Drone Durability Rig
Hybrid Collision Accelerator Rig
Algid Hybrid Administration Unit Rig

3x Hobgoblin 2
3x Hornet EC-300

I'll admit,I have no PvP experience ( though I want to get into some ), so this may be total crap. Looks like it could hold it's own to me though. Would probably work better in a small gang though as I have no way to stop someone from running if they get tired of chasing me. I know this doesn't really go along with the OP's intent,just posting this to show rails will fit on a Comet,just not sure it's the best idea for solo PvP.
Onictus
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#8 - 2012-07-11 06:59:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Onictus
Solo you simply must have a point.

Not to mention that Is a fairly pricey ship to learn in.
K
You have a couple issues, first being no point, second being no tank, third you have a link augmentor on a ship that can't lock to drone control range.

That thing is going to fall apart to warrior II s, you can't keep anything on the field long enough to kill it.

Trust me, those rail will have a hard.time with inties and AB assualt frigs you are likely to come across on low.
ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#9 - 2012-07-11 06:59:25 UTC
Dibblerette wrote:
ACE McFACE wrote:
Atrum Skyhunter wrote:
Looks like a fun build, no Magnetic Stabilizers?

ACE McFACE wrote:
also they might have warp core stabs.


Wait... People actually fit those?

No mag stabs because not enough CPU and if you used a CPU rig or module the fit is worse off. Also people fit the warp core stabs because (at least in minmatar FW) because you dont need to shoot anything to get the LP from the site (unless its a mission site)

That seems a little counter intuitive? I know little about FW, but that just seems silly.

If all you need to do to get LP is orbit within 10-30km for an amount of time, why waste money on ammo? And if your not shooting anything, why worry about targetting range in exchange for escapability?

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.

Jardan D'Arth
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-07-11 17:22:44 UTC
Onictus wrote:
Solo you simply must have a point.

Not to mention that Is a fairly pricey ship to learn in.
K
You have a couple issues, first being no point, second being no tank, third you have a link augmentor on a ship that can't lock to drone control range.

That thing is going to fall apart to warrior II s, you can't keep anything on the field long enough to kill it.

Trust me, those rail will have a hard.time with inties and AB assualt frigs you are likely to come across on low.


Thanks for the input. It's appreciated. Enjoy theory crafting fits but lack the field PvP experience to tell how effective some of my builds would be in action. Can put together a decent PvE build with no problems just uncertain of some of my PvP builds. Back to the drawing boards with my Comet. Definitely be using some of the advice in this thread when refitting it.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#11 - 2012-07-11 22:56:41 UTC
this is all i have to contribute.

I should buy an Ishtar.

Plus 1
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-07-12 02:10:38 UTC
Ass Comet?
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#13 - 2012-07-12 02:12:27 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
this is all i have to contribute.


You beat me to it. Also, this thread is no longer suitable for children. If it ever was.
Roime
Shiva Furnace
#14 - 2012-07-12 08:23:11 UTC
While Comet is a fantastic frig, it suffers from a problem in your intended application- if you want to make it fast enough to catch speed tankers, you'll want a shield tank, and that means no web. This is MWD version of my AB Comet, with more speed and a bit less tank.


[Federation Navy Comet, Ions MWD]

Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Damage Control II

J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Coreli C-Type 1MN MicroWarpdrive
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction

Light Ion Blaster II, Void S
Salvager I /OFFLINE
Light Ion Blaster II, Void S

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I

216dps w Null+Warriors, 330 o/h peak dps w. Void+Hobgoblins
3783m/s (5419)
6.71K EHP


Warriors and ECMs or Hobgoblins in the bay. Three small web drones don't seem to do much, but who knows, maybe they could mean just the difference against a kiter?

If you want the web (which would be nice), go for active armor tank.

.

Adoro
Below the Asteroids Ltd.
#15 - 2012-07-12 13:33:07 UTC
Roime wrote:
While Comet is a fantastic frig, it suffers from a problem in your intended application- if you want to make it fast enough to catch speed tankers, you'll want a shield tank, and that means no web. This is MWD version of my AB Comet, with more speed and a bit less tank.


[Federation Navy Comet, Ions MWD]

Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Damage Control II

J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Coreli C-Type 1MN MicroWarpdrive
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction

Light Ion Blaster II, Void S
Salvager I /OFFLINE
Light Ion Blaster II, Void S

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I

216dps w Null+Warriors, 330 o/h peak dps w. Void+Hobgoblins
3783m/s (5419)
6.71K EHP


Warriors and ECMs or Hobgoblins in the bay. Three small web drones don't seem to do much, but who knows, maybe they could mean just the difference against a kiter?

If you want the web (which would be nice), go for active armor tank.


I like this setup, ill play around with it
Ctzn Snips
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2012-07-14 03:52:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Ctzn Snips
ACE McFACE wrote:
heres the fit I use for general PvP
[Federation Navy Comet, PvP]

Damage Control II
200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Adaptive Nano Plating II

Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
Warp Scrambler II

Light Neutron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S
[Empty High slot]

Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Small Anti-Explosive Pump I
Small Trimark Armor Pump I


Warrior II x3

213 DPS with faction antimatter and 8.01k EHP, you get more EHP with 2 trimarks so you might want to change that. For catching plexers if may work, but if they have a shred of competence they will we mashing d-scan and will warp when you enter the site, so you have about 2 seconds to travel 60-80km, also they might have warp core stabs.


http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=16957199#mail

It took some maneuvering and alittle luck on my part to get him into range. Burned away and waited for him to overheat his AB, then turned on him and went head on to get him in blaster range. He then proceeded to melt (with Null I might add). Nice fit all around.

The TD wouldn't have even helped with the range I got him at.
NoNah
Hyper-Nova
#17 - 2012-07-14 04:22:33 UTC
Did someone just use manly and tracking disrupting frigate in the same sentence? Shocked
Ctzn Snips
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2012-07-14 16:51:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Ctzn Snips
NoNah wrote:
Did someone just use manly and tracking disrupting frigate in the same sentence? Shocked



"I outplayed that tracking disrupting frig with my manly ass comet."

Yes.

He had the TD in his cargo bay he thought about fitting, but he apparently thought he could keep me out of range.