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Let me ask you why you think it's not risky to do PVP in empire?

Now you will say: You have logistics. Yeah we have, but they can get jammed. So it's not risk free.

Or you will say: But you can just dock up. Yeah we can, but we have to stay alive for one minute. It's not that easy if our war targets have 2-3 times bigger fleet than us and then on top of that can jam our logistics. In other words, it's not risk free.

Or you will say this: You just sits there and press F1-F8. Yeah what other should we do when our war targets just sits there to. Should we just orbit them at 5 km with the MWD on?

Or i'm pretty sure you will say this to: Empire PVP is gay. Yeah, empire PVP is gay for 0.0 space bears. But then, the 0.0 space population is tiny small compared to the population in empire. So i don't take tips from idiots in 0.0 space who thinks an empire PVP movie should be made in the same way as a 0.0 space movie.

And if the logistics get jammed, then what happens next?

Yes, they will either dock up and undock right away (if this is at a station) or they will just wait for the ECM timer to stop. In other words, we are fully vulnerable to brutal DPS without logistics help for a little while until they are back. So it's risky.

And if our passive armor tanked Battleships can't get repped by our logistics under heavy fire, then guess what, it's game over then.

So it's quite alot of risks in empire PVP. And i don't know why you think this is risk free PVP.

It's pretty clear that you don't know Rebirth at all.

whats to know about a high sec "PvP" group?

This thread and video are a wonderful troll. My hat's off to you.

Then stop calling empire PVP for risk free then. All you do is to get to much obsessed with the security status of the system and then think the higher the security status of the system is the safer it is.

For a miner or mission runners perspective, then this might be true. But when it comes to empire PVP under war decs, it's not. It's not any safer for our war targets if we fight them in 0.5 or 1.0 space.

You can PVP with low risk in empire as you can PVP in 0.0 space with low risk of dying to. So what's your point here really?

Ok, here is a clue for you. Stations and gates exist in 0.0 space to and most fights there happens there to, so why are you talking about that we are in the docking ring / jumping range in empire when most do the same things in 0.0 space to?

And just to make things even more clear. When you are in 0.0 space and are gathering information about the enemy fleet that are 5 jumps from you. It's much easier for those who are in 0.0 space to get the right information about what ships they have and about how many they have in their fleet.

If you are doing PVP in Jita or the other populated trade hubs. It's almost impossible to get the right information about how many ship and what kind of ships they have ready in a safespot 50k km from Jita 4-4 station, simply because Jita is to much crowded to be able to find where that fleet is and to get the exact information on how many and what ships they have ready to warp in on top of us.

Doing this is much much more easier in a random 0.0 space system since 0.0 space systems is normally not crowded with tons of other ships all around in the system. So it's much easier to find the fleet and to get the info about what ships they have and how many ships they have to.

I have almost done the mistake of aggroing a bait ship at Jita 4-4 (yeah i luckily didn't aggro it) sometimes. One time i was sitting in my Vindicator there and only had the bait locked.

10 seconds later they warped in 10-12 Battleships right on top of my ass. It's things like this that you never know about in crowded trade hubs in empire.

Thus, empire PVP is way more risky when it's done in Jita or other trade hubs. There is a reason why Jita is the most dangerous system in EVE.

Oh dear god, please tell me this thread is a massive troll. This actually made me laugh quite a bit.

On to the pvp vid. Nice editing, well done, although the fights were lackluster at the most. Looks like each fight had multiple neutral rr on the field, which tends to make a fight boring to watch. Sorry bud, but 0 risk highsec pvp with neutral gaurdians isnt the kind of thing that people want to see in a video, expecially those who are new to the game, and trying to see what pvp is like. Without the Neutral reps and a decent fight, then it wouldve actually looked good.

Just pressing F1-F3 and sitting on station doesent cut it on the excitement factor that a pvp video is supposed to bring. Try taking the fight off of the station, and off of a gate and that may show a lot more action and excitement. I wouldve preferred watching ONE very good fight, then looking at all this riskless pvp with neutral rep on station/gate. Sorry if you actually did this in the video but i started to skim it after the first couple of fights as it was REALLY boring >.>

On another note, good ol reddit supplying links to delusional derpage, happy to see I wasent disappointed.

Just found out that this guy exists. What an amazing thread. Never leaving docking range of a station is easily the lowest form of PVP. You should look into World of Warcraft dude I think it's a bit more your speed.

EDIT: How have ancillary shield boosters changed your little world of hisec station games?

Not sure those ancillary shield boosters can transfer shield from a neutral alt so I'd say not at all?