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Assault, HAMS, Rapid light WTF......?
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limbus
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-07-13 13:16:05 UTC  |  Edited by: limbus
So I've been away from Eve for a while and if I recall correctly the Cerberus had a bonus to "assault" missile launcher flight time, aka light missiles.
The Cerbs description says the same today but if you compare it to the Drake, which also has a bonus to "assault" it gets confusing.
I know they refer to the "Hams" in the drake's case but which is it on the Cerb, assault (Hams) or assault (Rapidlightwhatever)?


edit: had written Rof instead of flight time which caused confusion
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#2 - 2012-07-13 13:33:14 UTC
assault missles = heavy assault missiles = hams. These are still fired by heavy assault missile launchers i believe.
light missles are fired by rapid light missle launchers, which used to be called assault launchers.

"**CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"**

Never forget.
Tor Gungnir
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-07-13 13:34:28 UTC
Just like Torpedoes are sometimes referred to as Siege in ship descriptions, so are Heavy Assault Missiles often referred to as Assault.

Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you.
limbus
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2012-07-13 13:52:58 UTC
...and neither one of you guys could actually answer my question.

Does the cerb still have bonus to the light missile flight time or has this been removed?
Alara IonStorm
#5 - 2012-07-13 14:17:20 UTC
limbus wrote:
...and neither one of you guys could actually answer my question.

Does the cerb still have bonus to the light missile flight time or has this been removed?

None of the bonuses have changed just the names to make the terminology easier to understand for players
Tor Gungnir
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-07-13 14:27:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Tor Gungnir
limbus wrote:
...and neither one of you guys could actually answer my question.

Does the cerb still have bonus to the light missile flight time or has this been removed?


If you had taken what we said and done some thinking you would've gotten the answer.


"Heavy Assault Ship Skill Bonus: 10% bonus to Assault Missile and Heavy Missile flight time and 5% bonus to Missile Launcher rate of fire per level."

The only bonus it gets to Light Missiles is 5% RoF per level since that one applies to all type of launchers. Rapid Light Missile Launchers still launch Light Missiles. As I said, Assault Missiles refers to Heavy Assault Missiles, HAMs.

Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you.
limbus
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-07-13 15:55:51 UTC  |  Edited by: limbus
Tor Gungnir wrote:
If you had taken what we said and done some thinking you would've gotten the answer


No man, I would'nt have, and here's why!

I did some research and it turns out my memory served me right, the description used to read:

Heavy Assault Ships bonus: 10% bonus to Light, Heavy Assault and Heavy Missile flight time per level.
5% bonus to Missile Launcher rate of fire per level.

Now the description reads:

Heavy Assault Ship Skill Bonus: 10% bonus to Assault and Heavy Missile flight time and 5% bonus to Missile Launcher rate of fire per level

So, either the bonuses remain but the description is borked or the bonus has been changed and no longer increase light missile flight time
Anybody knows which it is?
Tor Gungnir
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-07-13 17:20:02 UTC
I don't think they would just randomly exclude Light Missiles from the description without changing the mechanics behind it, bro.

Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you.
limbus
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-07-13 17:34:45 UTC
Tor Gungnir wrote:
I don't think they would just randomly exclude Light Missiles from the description without changing the mechanics behind it, bro.


Well I didn't ask for your "thoughts"! If you dont know the answer then dont post for the sake of posting, let someone who actually knows sh!t answer
Tor Gungnir
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2012-07-13 17:59:58 UTC
Not only are you a douche, but a stupid douche too boot. As I said, if they bothered to change the description odds are that they also, in fact, changed the mechanics to match the new description.

Hope nobody answers you, bro.

Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you.
limbus
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2012-07-13 18:27:44 UTC
I dont know how long you've been playing this game but I'm guessing by the age of your character that its almost 4 months now.

There have been countless times in the past where a ships descriptions is misleading so your assumptions is not enough for me.

I will test this out though so stay tuned
limbus
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2012-07-13 19:19:25 UTC  |  Edited by: limbus
Tor Gungnir wrote:
I don't think they would just randomly exclude Light Missiles from the description without changing the mechanics behind it, bro.


Well, turns out that's exactly what they've done, bro!

Light missiles (rapid assault launchers) get same 10 % bonus to flight time per level as heavys and assault does.


/close thread
Indo Nira
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-07-13 19:36:35 UTC
limbus wrote:
Tor Gungnir wrote:
I don't think they would just randomly exclude Light Missiles from the description without changing the mechanics behind it, bro.


Well I didn't ask for your "thoughts"! If you dont know the answer then dont post for the sake of posting, let someone who actually knows sh!t answer



Cause loading a ship up into eft is so freaking hard.
Cambarus
The Baros Syndicate
#14 - 2012-07-13 20:06:39 UTC
limbus wrote:
Tor Gungnir wrote:
I don't think they would just randomly exclude Light Missiles from the description without changing the mechanics behind it, bro.


Well, turns out that's exactly what they've done, bro!

Light missiles (rapid assault launchers) get same 10 % bonus to flight time per level as heavys and assault does.


/close thread

Tor doesn't know **** about missiles, more news at 11.
Zyress
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-07-13 20:14:59 UTC
Caldari Cruiser Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to Kinetic Missile damage and 10% bonus to Missile velocity per level

Heavy Assault Ship Skill Bonus: 10% bonus to Heavy Assault and Heavy Missile flight time and 5% bonus to Missile Launcher rate of fire per level

I'm pretty sure it would get the 10% per Cruiser level bonus to Missile Velocity like the Caracal does but I'm not sure about the 10% bonus to flight time.

If i look at it in pyfa though it looks like it gets that too.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#16 - 2012-07-13 20:42:20 UTC
limbus wrote:
I dont know how long you've been playing this game but I'm guessing by the age of your character that its almost
I will test this out though so stay tuned



How about you just make another thread and whine at the people that post replies.

"**CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"**

Never forget.
Kusum Fawn
Perkone
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-07-13 21:30:24 UTC
I love how everyone was wrong and he had to test it for himself.

and because all the replies were useless and obnoxious, he was a douche back to them,

What a great forum.

Its not possible to please all the people all the time, but it sure as hell is possible to Displease all the people, most of the time.
Alara IonStorm
#18 - 2012-07-13 23:36:10 UTC
Kusum Fawn wrote:
I love how everyone was wrong and he had to test it for himself.

and because all the replies were useless and obnoxious,

Am I invisible..

limbus wrote:

Does the cerb still have bonus to the light missile flight time or has this been removed?


Alara IonStorm wrote:
None of the bonuses have changed


Kusum Fawn wrote:

What a great forum.

I am sure it will be better once my invisibility potion wears off. Shocked
Bill Serkoff2
Tachyon Technology
#19 - 2012-07-13 23:42:59 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Kusum Fawn wrote:
I love how everyone was wrong and he had to test it for himself.

and because all the replies were useless and obnoxious,

Am I invisible..

limbus wrote:

Does the cerb still have bonus to the light missile flight time or has this been removed?


Alara IonStorm wrote:
None of the bonuses have changed


Kusum Fawn wrote:

What a great forum.

I am sure it will be better once my invisibility potion wears off. Shocked

Everyone knows stealth only turns off once you attack.

"The Cyclone and the Drake are two ships which will basically never be good for shield tanking, primarily because they have almost no lowslots in addition to shield tanking bonuses. " -Iam Widdershins
Paikis
Vapour Holdings
#20 - 2012-07-14 01:37:04 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
limbus wrote:
...and neither one of you guys could actually answer my question.

Does the cerb still have bonus to the light missile flight time or has this been removed?

None of the bonuses have changed just the names to make the terminology easier to understand for players


I see what you did there...
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