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Killing Miners - Now I get it
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Danks
Fat Angry Toe Tappin Inbreds
#21 - 2012-07-13 17:00:08 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Wrong lesson learned.

The point is that some EVE players are so bad that even a 7 year old can out play them. Blink


This is funnier than the OP
Sarmea Moon
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2012-07-13 17:01:35 UTC
I had my son sitting on my lap at 6 playing Ultima Online with me. He especially got to type for me once I was dead, because he loved to see all the OOOooOoOOoOOooOOO come across the screen:D

He also kept cheering me to fish up serpents, since they flamed me to death in 2 seconds flat.

I'd have him log on to reply, but he's out in the rain LARPing with his friends today. MMO's aren't the death of childhood, they expand the mind to a whole new world, with people who don't think like him, dress like him, or have the same idols. They force him to THINK.

I'm tired of the same old (We played outside when I was a kid, and were so much better for it!) I actually was able to convince him to try Thai vegetables (he HATES veggies) because he was grouped with someone from Thailand who told him he'd like it. Do you get that around here, in plain vanilla US South? Hell no. And no one believes Mom when she says, "You'll like these veggies, honest!"

Good for her Dad, and good for her!

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#23 - 2012-07-13 17:25:07 UTC
hedge betts Shiyurida wrote:
Or you could say that ganking is so easy and requires so little effort a child can do it. Kind of shows the level of gankers are at in their mental development.


Higher up than the knuckle dragging miners.
Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2012-07-13 17:34:58 UTC
are you smarter than a 5th grader... oops I mean 3rd grader.

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Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2012-07-13 17:35:21 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
hedge betts Shiyurida wrote:
Or you could say that ganking is so easy and requires so little effort a child can do it. Kind of shows the level of gankers are at in their mental development.


Higher up than the knuckle dragging miners.



nice try but no.

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#26 - 2012-07-13 17:57:11 UTC
Barbara Nichole wrote:



nice try but no.


Im going to go with yes. Now matter how daft a ganker is he (or she) is smarter than the untanked afk miner they just killed,.
Patrakele
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2012-07-13 18:09:54 UTC
7?! By the post quality on these forums I assumed the so called pvpers had the brains of a 5 year olds.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#28 - 2012-07-13 18:15:16 UTC
Patrakele wrote:
7?! By the post quality on these forums I assumed the so called pvpers had the brains of a 5 year olds.


It's okay, it's probably still enough to get the best of your average miner...

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Patrakele
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2012-07-13 18:16:23 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Patrakele wrote:
7?! By the post quality on these forums I assumed the so called pvpers had the brains of a 5 year olds.


It's okay, it's probably still enough to get the best of your average miner...


All miners are bots so its basically PvE.
Henry Kaine
Royal Amarr Institute
#30 - 2012-07-13 18:27:06 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Wrong lesson learned.

The point is that some EVE players are so bad that even a 7 year old can out play them. Blink


Exactly. If you're going to play the game in such a way that leaves you open to getting raped by a 7 year old, you deserve it. It is your fault.
Lucy Ferrr
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2012-07-13 18:30:17 UTC
This just proves what many of us already knew; the average high-sec miner is far less intelligent than a 7 y/o. Cute kid, but not new news.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#32 - 2012-07-13 19:21:21 UTC
Total strawman. I don't think you'll find anyone who claims that ganking miners requires skill. For that matter, I don't see much of the "play Eve my way" mentality that the carebears insist gankers have. What I see is people shooting stuff because they can, and victims refusing to adapt. Tank your hulk ffs.

Burglary is wrong and people shouldn't do it. That doesn't mean you shouldn't lock your house.

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Pipa Porto
#33 - 2012-07-13 19:29:27 UTC
NullGain wrote:
I'm not trying to knock the girl - she is actually a bad ass and I dont think I would have been playing EVE at 7. So Kudos to her and her dad.

Just saying this whole focus on Hulkageddon is a bit lame for a game that considers itself hi-brow. Even if the Miner was bad enough to get ganked by a 7year old, it just proves the point further.


The only people claiming that ganking is a Challenge are the Miners trying to prop up straw men.

Ganking Miners is Fun. Like popping bubble-wrap. Popping bubble wrap isn't challenging, but it sure is fun.

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Ginseng Jita
PAN-EVE TRADING COMPANY
#34 - 2012-07-13 19:36:38 UTC
Suqq Madiq wrote:
Xercodo wrote:
Hehe Skye again huh? Her daddy has been coaching her into EVE since she was 4


What a waste of a perfectly good childhood.


Yep. She should be in dance school, learning the piano, violin, taking swimming lessons, catching butterflies, going to the zoo, the beach, - there is no way I am letting my kid anywhere near an MMO. If they want to play MMO's they can do it after they have left home. ;p
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#35 - 2012-07-13 19:38:44 UTC
How funny is this, we have ourselves a child playing an adults game, and adults playing a child's game all in the same thread.

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Degren
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2012-07-13 19:39:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Degren
Turns out, kids are pretty good at following directions.

Weird, right?

It's like people have known (and been exploiting) this for


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BoBoZoBo
MGroup9
#37 - 2012-07-13 19:41:38 UTC  |  Edited by: BoBoZoBo
Pipa Porto wrote:
Ganking Miners is Fun. Like popping bubble-wrap. Popping bubble wrap isn't challenging, but it sure is fun.


This in a nutshell.

Ranger 1 wrote:
The point is that some EVE players are so bad that even a 7 year old can out play them. Blink


I'm not sure exactly how people claim this shows that miners are less capable than a 7 year old. Its a cute spin, but that base of comparison is garbage when you are comparing a non-combat mining vessel to a destroyer. Put them in equivalent ships, then we can compare talent and capability.

Until then I am inclined to agree with the OP that this clearly illustrates how easy it is to suicide-gank a mining ship with a combat ship in empire and how long it takes for Concord to respond.

I mean, there is now way around it, suicide-ganking is easier and cheaper than mining. If you guys do it because it fun, so be it, this is EVE and I ain't gonna hate, but dont try to convince us its a challenging thing to do. Come on.

In then end you are just doing the bidding of market manipulators egging you on and that is interesting and ironic in itself. EVE is awesome.

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Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#38 - 2012-07-13 19:41:42 UTC
Sarmea Moon wrote:
I had my son sitting on my lap at 6 playing Ultima Online with me. He especially got to type for me once I was dead, because he loved to see all the OOOooOoOOoOOooOOO come across the screen:D

He also kept cheering me to fish up serpents, since they flamed me to death in 2 seconds flat.

I'd have him log on to reply, but he's out in the rain LARPing with his friends today. MMO's aren't the death of childhood, they expand the mind to a whole new world, with people who don't think like him, dress like him, or have the same idols. They force him to THINK.

I'm tired of the same old (We played outside when I was a kid, and were so much better for it!) I actually was able to convince him to try Thai vegetables (he HATES veggies) because he was grouped with someone from Thailand who told him he'd like it. Do you get that around here, in plain vanilla US South? Hell no. And no one believes Mom when she says, "You'll like these veggies, honest!"

Good for her Dad, and good for her!


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Phugoid
Absolute Order XL
Absolute Honor
#39 - 2012-07-13 19:41:58 UTC
That reminds me.......

one day a nephew of mine, 8 years old at the time I think, saw me playing Eve, mining of course. So I kinda gave him a quick explanation of what I was doing, and he asked ......."what's the point of that?"

I still haven't come up with an answer Straight

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Korsiri
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2012-07-13 19:59:01 UTC
Sarmea Moon wrote:
I had my son sitting on my lap at 6 playing Ultima Online with me. He especially got to type for me once I was dead, because he loved to see all the OOOooOoOOoOOooOOO come across the screen:D

He also kept cheering me to fish up serpents, since they flamed me to death in 2 seconds flat.

I'd have him log on to reply, but he's out in the rain LARPing with his friends today. MMO's aren't the death of childhood, they expand the mind to a whole new world, with people who don't think like him, dress like him, or have the same idols. They force him to THINK.

I'm tired of the same old (We played outside when I was a kid, and were so much better for it!) I actually was able to convince him to try Thai vegetables (he HATES veggies) because he was grouped with someone from Thailand who told him he'd like it. Do you get that around here, in plain vanilla US South? Hell no. And no one believes Mom when she says, "You'll like these veggies, honest!"

Good for her Dad, and good for her!


preach it ^_^

My fave memory from UO w/ my oldest was 'helping' him learn his 'mouse skills' whilst making Deadly poison potions... did you know a two year old can double click?! haha at least he had the presence of mind to come and get me when the screen went grey (because I was dead, after he had my toon drink one poison instead of make it lol).

My oldest was the youngest (unofficially anyway) to ever do the Queen's Quest in AC at 7. And he followed directions better than most of the people our allegiance had taken through that.

Unfortunately he doesn't play Eve any longer, though my middle son does dabble a bit. My oldest is off leading raids and groups in DDO now.

For most people, when they think of kids gaming they envision sitting with a Nintendo DS (I've seen THREE year olds with one!), a console game or some other fairly mindless java script computer game. *note* not saying consoles etc are bad, just unsupervised gaming is! Obviously dad has not been letting her play unsupervised. Too many parents think that these games are babysitters, I think.

Our kids learned some of their best lessons from MMOs :P (rather like kindergarten tbh) Things like how to play nicely, how to play by the rules, when it's ok to use your imagination!! Other people are behind the screen and you need to share and not killsteal (depending on game :P) They can learn how to read better, type better, follow directions, investigate complex situations, use their imaginations, organize people (no easy task), and probably a ton of other stuff as well.

Kudos to her dad for helping her learn!

anyway, /momma-rant lol