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Tried out all the re-balanced frigates. Not bad, but it seems that now the condor has one bonus, not two, compared with the other ships. Is this the new plan?

Also the Atron needs a third set of hardpoints. The others all have them.

Thanks for the clarification

We essentially gave the Condor two 5% damage bonuses since we don't do ROF bonuses on rockets (lag prevention) so it was cleaner to just call it one 10% bonus.

More devs
Now we just need even more devs

RvB wants to EFT warrior a minning frigate? Um... what?

They need to work out the minimum requirements to gank it in highsec. That or to make the battle Mining Frigate and see if it would be a worthy ally to the mighty battle badger.[/quote]

not just hte frigates .. the barges. I have an industrial alt, so i want to see if i can finally go back to mining without having to worry about gankbears :D

I kind of agree with you, but how? Animated gif on the tutorial window? Overlay showing you how to? Game takes over your mouse? A cutscene? Something else? (These ideas are just off from the top of my mind. Cursor takeover and cutscenes are just lame imo for the record) We're talking about the really basic level stuff here, like right-click that and press F1. The current system has got the advantage of being able to read and comprehend at your own pace, then learn by doing. It might not be the most exciting thing but it's reasonably effective. Also no matter how much you tweak it, there is always a need for text to explain something. You could do it by showing an animated overlay right-clicking the object you need to warp to but having only that feels like underestimating the player if there's no explaining included.

The button-clicking thing you are entirely right-on. The windows barely show anything at all and all the information has to be dug from the help menu tutorial tree. Stuff like "what is a jump clone?", "what happens if the capacitor is not stable?" and "I have no idea what I am looking at in this market screen" could be done much better for everyone. Most modern programs come with a help button. I see no reason why it couldn't be done here. Every window should get a button either opening another window packed full of info about the buttons and columns that are in view or an overlay explaining what anything does, either immediately with a link to evelopedia or expanding with mouse-over.

To expand on the previous, here's an example (maybe this should be in F&I): You open the cloning window and have no idea what it is. Luckily there is a help button which dims the screen that gives a few sentence description about what clones are used for (Clones are used to preserve your skillpoints in the case you die. You can manage your clones from this window) and one sentence for "upgrade clone" and "change station" buttons("Upgrade your clone to hold more skillpoints" and "Select the station you wish to wake up when you die").. Rolling the mouse over either button brings more information why you would like to do that ("Your clone can only hold a limited number of skillpoints. If your clone cannot hold as many skillpoints as you currently have, you will lose a portion of the exceeding amount when you die. You can also install a jumpclone from here" and "Select the station you want to wake up when you die. This can be useful when you want to start from a location with assembled ships or a shorter distance away from the action").

I did a little further digging on the "Clone Blueprint" today and it seems they do exist, they are even on TQ's database but they show as a unpublished item.

http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/item.php?type_id=681

http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/item.php?type_id=682


Could this possibly be what was seen on SiSi?

Ah cool thread. Thanks for this and I'll make sure it's in the right inboxes.

While you're renaming things, please look at rigs. They are a jumbled mess when sorted alphabetically, would like to see the names lead off with a Group classification word.

Medium Armor: Anti-EM Pump I
Medium Armor: Aux Nano Pump I
Medium Astronautic: Aux Thrusters I
(something like this)