Ships & Modules

I love his pairings for exactly that reason. Everyone associates the tier 2 hulls with pwnmobiles. Relegating them to gang boosters while letting the tier 1 hulls have some fun in actual combat is actually quite awesome.

Besides which, if anyone touched my NH or my Sleipnir I would be very seriously upset.

Oh, this is probably a good time to mention that reverting to the old Helios would also make me unspeakably happy.

Faction Battlecruisers and Destoyers

Super-Dreadnaughts (so i can buy one and name it the Honor Harrington lol)

Tech 3 frigs

Tech2 Teir 1 battleship sized hull called "Escort Carriers" so i can launch some fighters from Tech2 Domi in Empire :) (yea right, that will happen).

Somthing I have always thought we needed was a destroyer hull that would operate like the destroyer escorts of WW2. Sub hunters. They would have a new module based off the bubble launcher that would be a decloaker with a range of 15/20 km. They would also get a modified probe launcher that would get them on grid with a cloaked target and at all lvl 5s (have 2 or 3 skills that affect this launcher/probe) get them within 30km of a cloaked target. They would still need to drop their probes to decloak the target and if said target was accually active they could easily get away.

Granted this looks and probably is a massive anti-cloakyfag whine. Though historicly I have been one of those that are on the side of "cloakyfagging is part of the game, run around with escorts in 0.0 or goto another system etc."

Of course this thing shouldn't be as strong as it's interdictor counterpart (too many electronics in the hull or somthing).

Needs alot of thinking through but I do think it is somthing that this game could use.

I think the most popular hull type is BC, it offers a nice combination of EHP, price, tracking, dps and dps projection and also speed(well sometimes it offers speed) that makes it so good

There's 6 frigate hulls (per race) , 4 cruisers(+ strategic), 3 BS but only 2 BC. As far as pirate hulls go there's no BC's there and that's a missed opportunity right there.

I think a new hull per race(and possibly a t3 hull) + a pirate BC would set eve afire. Just don't make the angel one too OP :P

This.

T2 dessies that can decloak ships within 20km.

It would NOT break cloak tactics, as anyone with a clue would covops warp to a new spot when they turn up near by.

It would however, be a counter to afk cloakers, wch isn't a bad thing imo.

It would not the drakes would just un group their launchers and swarm space with individual missiles.

Problem is this would Kill the server most likely.

While everybody has their favorite new ship and some of the suggestions fill valid holes in capability or ship-role, the point is that it’s all about ship-role – why can almost every ship utilize almost every module? This kills ship-role, this is the reason there are so many useless ships – because almost any ship can do almost any role. You want to use EW? Then make it so that the ONLY ship that can fit an EW module is the EAF. You want to disrupt the tracking of your opponent, make it so that only 1 specific ship can fit that module. You want more one specific capability in your fleet? Train and fly more of that ship-role. Why have both an Interdictor and a Heavy Interdictor? You want more Interdiction power? Then make the Heavy Interdictor a T2 variant with a SIGNIFICANT increase in capability and module training requirements so that it doesn’t just make the destroyer Interdictor obsolete. And this doesn’t have to be some massive software change – instead of fiddling with cpu/power requirements just make it a simple yes/no module-x can only be fit on ship-y. OBTW, do it client-side so you don’t have to continually pass massive lists between client-server.

Consider the following scenario: since you can’t get rid of jump freighters because you’d really upset to many people – introduce freighter convoys with dedicated escorts of different roles (same current prices & training) – but tweek both the modules and the ship-roles. EW only on EAF but EW is ‘bubble’ vice targeted + (diff ship) bubble de-cloaker module + (diff ship) bubble automatic target & shoot defensive shooter (agree with turrets vice missiles for lag reasons). With the right tactics I could even see such a fleet making it through a gate camp with only a few losses.

The point is: take every module, including weapons, and make it specific to only 1 ship per race. You want both a short-range BS and a long-range BS in your fleet – then you need two different hulls.

Now drop the other shoe and make skills have a shelf-live, i.e. they degrade over time if you don’t use them. Haven’t flown a hulk or used strip miners in more than a year? Then you lose a level of training down to a minimum of 1 or 2. Don’t like that? Then make it so you have to go through refresher training before you can use them again at all regardless of level currently trained. The impact is that pilots would tend to specialize in certain skills, i.e. ship-roles. And the impact of that is that if you want a well rounded fleet, you need a much larger variety of role specific ship hulls. In RL a bomber pilot doesn’t jump into a fighter or a hauler doesn’t jump into an EW fighter, dang even a fighter pilot seldom jumps into an EW fighter – so why is it possible to do all those things in EVE?

If you’re really going to be extreme, give each race 1 capability that all of the other races can just barely compensate for. If Gallente specialize in drones then you better have a boatload of smart-bombs because that’s just about the ONLY thing that will stop them, you just can’t shoot them down any more – and smart-bombs only affect drones so you can use them in high-sec. If Minmatar specialize in speed, then they can generally speed tank virtually everything, including drones. Ditto Amarr and Caldari.