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40-something mama trying Eve for the first time :-)
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DJ FunkyBacon
Rabid Ninja Space Monkey Inc.
Monkeys with Guns.
#21 - 2012-07-13 02:17:02 UTC
Welcome to Eve!

Since most questions were answered that you asked in your posting, I took a look at your blog. I forget sometimes what it's like to be new to this game, and the experience new people have today is so much different from the old days.

Couple of things you'd asked about in your blog:

Characters mingling in stations is a long term plan for the game. Not something we are likely to see anytime soon(tm) but maybe within a couple of years. CCP has stated that it needs a purpose, not just walking around with other people, there has to be something to do and a benefit to it. Once they figure that out and feel like they have it right, we'll start to see some more. Captains quarters were the first step in this process.

The stuff posted on your big screen in the captains quarters gives you a glimpse of what's going on. You will see bounties which are ALWAYS other players. You will see new pilot certifications of people who have recently joined eve (might even see yourself up there) You'll see territory change notices from nullsec, which is one group of players taking space from another group. You'll also see notices from nearby incursion events, and other random stuff.

I'm looking forward to your future posts on Eve, it'll be nice to see how it works out for you. Are you on twitter at all?

And one free tip for you in the future: If you want to get rid of the UI for amazing space screen shots ctrl+F9 Big smile

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Priss Eluveitie
#22 - 2012-07-13 02:58:56 UTC
A couple of tips.

1) A lot of players find it a good idea to disable auto-targetting, it isn't really needed, and has the potential to cause problems. Do this by pressing Esc, going to General Settings, and changing the value of the drop-down box next to "Auto Target Back" to "0 Targets".

2) Set your auto-pilot to avoid plotting courses through low-sec space, you're probably not ready for low sec yet, and auto-piloting through there is just asking for a one-way ticket to respawn. Do this by opening up your map and selecting the Autopilot tab on the World Map Control Panel, then go to the Settings tab and choose "Prefer Safer".

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cratais
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2012-07-13 04:37:36 UTC
One rule about autopiloting is don't do it ever not even in high sec especially in a industrial ship carrying alot of isk worth of stuff people will gank you and take your stuff in highsec always warp to 0 or just hit the jump on your overview cause not only will that warp you to 0 but will automatically jump you through the gate.

you should also consider joining eve university they will teach you what you need to know to increase your survival in this game.
Istan Mahwi
Aliastra
#24 - 2012-07-13 05:12:00 UTC
welcome! hope you stay awhile

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gfldex
#25 - 2012-07-13 07:15:42 UTC
Shalestina Sulistaine wrote:
I'm surprised there are so few women in Eve, because at the end of the day - all of those 5 top reasons I like Eve, are things that any gender would enjoy and appreciate.


I'm not surprised at all. In the end of the day EVE is just a massive bar fight ... and a bar ... and a supply chain for bars ... and a shady shop selling not so pleasant objects to improve your chances in a bar fight. But the reason why all that exists is the bar fight. How many girls have you seen take part in a bar fight proper?

Shalestina Sulistaine wrote:

And does Eve have to change in any way what so ever to attract more female players? Not at all, it's perfect the way it is (at least so far it feels that way). In fact I really appreciate the fact that the game feels extremely equal and gender neutral to me. As an example, the way avatars are. In a lot of games male avatars would have full body suit armor where females would have skimpy sexy stuff, but in Eve it's all very mature and sensible. In other games there would be a focus on making females very sexualized compared to the males, where as in Eve it's completely and utterly equal in that respect as well. I love that I can modify my female avatar's breasts to be small, large, set far apart or together, high or low - but what's awesome is that I can do the exact same thing to the male character as well.


That's all just eye candy. Having your teeth kicked in three times in a row in a bar fight that you didn't start can make the shiny fade rather quickly.

Shalestina Sulistaine wrote:

So basically there is absolutely nothing about the game that is pushing possible female players away. My guess is that they just haven't discovered it yet, hah! Now if only that Summerfest text would have been "families enjoying spas instead of wives" :-).


That 5%-number might have changed a little the last few years. You have to poke CCP Diagoras if you want a update on that.

If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
Capra Tai
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2012-07-13 08:42:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Capra Tai
Welcome to Eve! Big smile

Really great posts in here, lots of information, also glad to see that i am not the only 40+ playerBig smile

Thank you Priss for the info on auto targeting, that have been driving me around the bendShocked
Ssakaa
Animatar Foundation
#27 - 2012-07-13 09:47:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Ssakaa
Shalestina Sulistaine wrote:
....But now knowing that "The Elder Fleet" is part of the lore, freaks me out a bit! I've never been much of a fan of people representing themselves or their guilds as something that was already in the lore. It's always seemed a bit arrogant to me. And now I'm actually worried that if someone sees "The Elders Fleet", not only will they assume that I am referring to the in game lore version, but that I even spelled it wrong - doubly crass. Argh! I wonder if one can change the name of a corp after founding it. If not, is there any time penalty or anything if I shut this corporation and create a new one?


Hello!

To clarify the Elder Fleet dilemma a little, your character must be part of the 'clans' of the following 'tribes' that make up the Minmatar, for it to have any credence:-

Sebiestor -playable.

Brutor - playable.

Vherokior - playable.

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Krusual - technically non-playable Blink

Thukker - non-playable

Starkmanir -non-playable

Nefantar -non playable (some roleplayers don't count the nefantar as a tribe anymore because of their great treachery as part of the mythos, some do) -See Ammatar.

That's the technical aspect. There's nothing to stop you roleplaying a true Starkmanir with a part-Thukker lineage if you wanted (enjoy the weeks of hunting down tiny tidbits of lore for that Sad )-but your character info will always show 'Sebiestor' or 'Brutor' or 'Vherokior'. Yes, it's a source of great frustration for some, but it can be circumvented with great concentrated effort on your part, not least because compared to Gallente Amarr and Caldari, the background canon for Minmatar is even today (and I'm being kind here) inconsistent and infuriating.

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If your characters are none of the above, then roleplaying some sect or public face of the Minmatar Elder Fleet might probably not work at all even if you wanted it to. That your Corp (aka 'Guild') is named Elder's Fleet may mitigate things if you have no intention of roleplaying at all -don't forget that roleplaying in EvE is the minority's way to play -as a supplement or luxury if you like. This is a PvP game first, foremost and last, whether playing the markets, or with your forever expendable ships or Industrial PvP or character assassination in the Intergalactic Summit.

If you're a very casual roleplayer or do not intend to RP at all, then your Corp's name won't have much meaning for the vast majority of EvE's playerbase anyway, so it's entirely up to you, since the name already has a value for you and your friends before your first subscription. You could just stick with it and carry right on.

Regards and good luck!

"Modern Life is Rubbish"
Bunnie Hop
Bunny Knights
#28 - 2012-07-13 10:01:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Bunnie Hop
Welcome to EVE. I am a 40s something mom as well. If you find a corp that is more industrial-pve based I think you will find more of us. We have 3 women in our Corp (my other character-can't forum post with her due to alliance rule) and a handful more in our alliance. All of us tend to avoid pvp and like to mission run or do industry type things and of course enjoy getting chatty on voice chat and driving the men into their own channel P

One last suggestion, join Eve University corp, its great for new players to learn the game and meet new people.
Celeste Taylor
Ruby Dynasty
#29 - 2012-07-13 10:04:17 UTC
There are a number of us who remember seeing Star Wars when it first came out in the theater Big smile

I also started with UO and went to Everquest when it was released. More recently I quit SWTOR and joined EVE. Guild Wars trilogy probably is my favorite, especially with the amazing art team and all the neat outfits you can get.

The character creator is amazing. I also find a high percentage of the female avatars made by women are actually pretty while the ones made by male players tend to really be more extreme and often intimidating.

I feel as though EVE gets so much negative press, but have found the community to be a nice mix of carebears and pirates.

I also jumped into this game and went all out with the entire back issue collection of EON magazine, a years worth in game time, a bunch of other stuff from the official store, the ISK manual and maps, and several PLEX. Couple of months in now, and I still think EVE is great!
Celeste Lovette
#30 - 2012-07-13 10:07:33 UTC
Welcome to EvE

Try Cosmos Lvl 1-2 quest to up yours standing quickly it helps me a lot (and good items to have).
Minmatar cosmos guide

"Life isn't about finding yourself. Life is about creating yourself."
Bunnie Hop
Bunny Knights
#31 - 2012-07-13 10:09:03 UTC
Celeste Taylor wrote:
There are a number of us who remember seeing Star Wars when it first came out in the theater Big smile

I also started with UO and went to Everquest when it was released. More recently I quit SWTOR and joined EVE. Guild Wars trilogy probably is my favorite, especially with the amazing art team and all the neat outfits you can get.

The character creator is amazing. I also find a high percentage of the female avatars made by women are actually pretty while the ones made by male players tend to really be more extreme and often intimidating.

I feel as though EVE gets so much negative press, but have found the community to be a nice mix of carebears and pirates.

I also jumped into this game and went all out with the entire back issue collection of EON magazine, a years worth in game time, a bunch of other stuff from the official store, the ISK manual and maps, and several PLEX. Couple of months in now, and I still think EVE is great!


Ohh, I was in EQ at release as well, started on Nameless server and then moved to Tholuxe Paells Lol Such good times. Where were you and what class did you play? I was a cleric.
Celeste Taylor
Ruby Dynasty
#32 - 2012-07-13 10:57:46 UTC
Bunnie Hop wrote:
Ohh, I was in EQ at release as well, started on Nameless server and then moved to Tholuxe Paells Lol Such good times. Where were you and what class did you play? I was a cleric.


Joined Lanys T'vyl when it went live. Started really getting involved when Kunark was released and got my Elven Paladin up to level 50 and became an officer in the High Guardians (was a fan of the then new and promising series Andromeda and the name reminded me of that show) who were a guild of paladins, clerics and other good folks. Played up until Luclin, then took a break from MMOs missing WoW and EVE's launch completely.
Tomcio FromFarAway
Singularity's Edge
#33 - 2012-07-13 10:59:14 UTC
Welcome Shalestina

You're the kind of player this game really needs so I hope you stay for good.

As far as male/female ratios goes :
I met a girl....once. We had an invigorating discussion about avatar clothing Lol
I had a good time actually ( I would have never guessed ).

Well ok I also met two other girls ( one in Exploration channel and the second one was my CEO ).
What Xercodo said ( 95/5 ratio ) is quite accurate.
I have never experienced any kind of despicable behaviour in this area so it's not a problem around here ( if it happens then just bomb them Twisted ).

Don't hesitate to ask any questions on these forums. Most of the time we are just trolling each other but we can also be helpful ( see how much info you already got Big smile ).

Good luck and have fun.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#34 - 2012-07-13 11:13:44 UTC
Tomcio FromFarAway wrote:
Welcome Shalestina

You're the kind of player this game really needs so I hope you stay for good.

As far as male/female ratios goes :
I met a girl....once. We had an invigorating discussion about avatar clothing Lol
I had a good time actually ( I would have never guessed ).

Well ok I also met two other girls ( one in Exploration channel and the second one was my CEO ).
What Xercodo said ( 95/5 ratio ) is quite accurate.
I have never experienced any kind of despicable behaviour in this area so it's not a problem around here ( if it happens then just bomb them Twisted ).

Don't hesitate to ask any questions on these forums. Most of the time we are just trolling each other but we can also be helpful ( see how much info you already got Big smile ).

Good luck and have fun.


If you want to see the other side of the forums (the trolling part):

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=258

No topic goes untrolled there.

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Shalestina Sulistaine
The Elders Fleet
#35 - 2012-07-13 11:22:09 UTC
So many scrumptious links, all added to my Eve site - safe and sound. Thank you folks!

Abdiel Kavash: Hmm, not sure what the situation is in other MMOs but I think WoW has quite a few lady players. Probably not even close to a 50/50 ratio, but still I believe a noteworthy chunk all the same. This assumption is based on my observations as someone recruiting members over several years. (our recruitment goes through Facebook, so one can see the real gender). To be fair, I did notice a huge difference when we went to SWTOR though. 90% of the people applying to our guild there were male. I found that a bit strange as well because I've always remembered Star Wars as being "family entertainment", something that everyone in the family could enjoy regardless of gender. Ah well, I'm rambling on a bit :). In any case let's see if I manage to lure any of our female guildies into Eve. So far everyone who has shown interest has in fact been male :-|.

Thanks for clearing up the Trade goods thing. That certainly explains it! I shall sell off those dairy products with no regrets! *grins*

Excellent, excellent point about preferably selling over storing stuff. I hadn't considered it from that angle. I shall do just that!

In my younger years before I had kids, I'd probably agreed with you fully on the charm illusive information. I can certainly appreciate your point. Part of Eve's allure for me as well, is the fact that it's not an instant meal type of experience and that to truly master this game, you have to work hard and be smart about how you play it. I've never liked it when games were dumbed down and made easier ( I mean the whole point of playing a game is to meet a challenge and conquer, right?) but the flip-side is the reality of real life time restrictions. Being a single parent that works full time, the act of searching for game information easily turns into a frustrating task that loses much of it's allure. I guess it's about finding a sane balance in spending time doing the actual fun stuff versus mundane tasks.

Thanks for the info on how NPC purchases work. How to sell to an NPC was a huge mystery to me. I'll have to search those hubs out.

ShahFluffers: Thank you for the warning. It's really good to point this out to new players. I'm guessing that folks didn't have a need to go into that because they read the part about me actually finding that an attractive quality of the game in my top 5 reasons to like Eve ;-). Says me who has not yet gotten into a tight spot, you may want to ask me again once I've been annihilated by someone and lost my ship for the first time *chuckles*.

As for UO, it's actually the pre-trammel times I remember with the most warmth. Things just got boring after Trammel. Then again it could be that memories golden with age. I'm sure that back then I was fuming when stuff happened hehe.

Those were good "facts of eve life" to know and consider, thank you!
Tomcio FromFarAway
Singularity's Edge
#36 - 2012-07-13 11:27:30 UTC
J'Poll wrote:

If you want to see the other side of the forums (the trolling part):

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=258

No topic goes untrolled there.


You're exaggerating.
Only 9/10 thread are trolled there.
Hey, that's not all of themLol
Ursula Thrace
Dreamland Augmented Consortium
#37 - 2012-07-13 12:30:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Ursula Thrace
welcome to EVE Shalestina! i'm in my mid-40s (male). you'll find there are lots of us hanging around in this game. Blink

as another poster suggested, EVE University is a great place for newbies to learn the ropes. EVE can be extremely intimidating at first, especially if you've been on the theme-park MMO merry-go-round (been there, done that). but hang in there! you'll soon discover that this is simply the best game on the market.

if you'd like to dive in feet first into pvp, please consider looking up RvB. we're a very laid back community where you'll find two things in abundance: good times and good fights.

good luck with whatever route you decide to take. Big smile

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Shalestina Sulistaine
The Elders Fleet
#38 - 2012-07-13 14:27:15 UTC
Xercodo: Oooh that reference card looks awesome, thank you! Right now most of it is jibberish to me of course, but I'm sure that before long I'll be depending on it to quickly check stuff.

Forest Archer: Thanks for the info and the friendly offer of help :-).

DJ FunkyBacon: Thank you for the welcome! Actually the fact that you commented here, created a wonderful little chain of events that made me very very happy. I saw from your profile that such a thing as Eve radio exists, googled and found it and tuned in last night. DJ Erroch was playing some trance songs at the time, and since I liked what I was hearing, I kept listening. Then it happened... As if heaven itself had opened up to me. A song started playing that I have been hunting for, high and low since 1999. A song I only remembered by melody and the visuals of it's video. I had been so obsessed by it that I'd actually registered to a few trance sites, asking people if they might guess which song it was. But alas, during all this time no-one has been able to help me. Thanks to you, I got my song back. Aaah! :-)

About characters mingling. I suppose for those who do not roleplay, mingling would seem pretty useless. But for roleplayers it would be wonderful of course. It will be interesting to see what the future holds.

Interesting to hear about the big screen content. Wow that sounds really nice! I'll have to sit and watch it some time! I never realized it was quite so sophisticated.

I am in fact on Twitter, but I hardly use it to post myself - instead watch it sometimes when there is a hot topic going on.

Oooohh thank you for the Ctrl F9 tip! All I knew about up till now was Ctrl + Tab which removes almost everything but not quite, but this is even better!! I'll update the info on my site. (I have a tip about it there)

Priss Eluveitie: Ah so that explains why targeting has been a bit of a hassle! I'll be sure to check and adjust the settings, thank you. And very valuable tip about auto pilot as well. I've not used auto pilot yet, but will set this regardless. BTW: Love your avatar image!

cratais: Yeah good information. I've been paranoid about hanging around too much anywhere to be honest after reading that sometimes people will be ganked by a team, one does the killing (and pays the consequences) and others loot.

Istan Mahwi: Thank you, I hope so too :-)!

gfldex: Heheh, you have a valid point *grins*.

Capra Tai: Thank you. Hmmm I wonder that the age demographics are of Eve...

Ssakaa: Thanks so much for that info. Interesting to know that regardless of how we play the Elders. Actually Shalestina just happens to be Sebiestor, so it would fit otherwise. However the guild/corp should be able to allow all races so I don't think we will link ourselves the Elder Fleet. In addition, our guild is RP in a rather light way. Basically we are a group of old and tired people who used to be more serious roleplayers back when we were younger and before we had kids. But these days we can't be too fussed. We're roleplayers at heart, but just too tired to do anything too intense, so it's left to mostly just staying IC if we bump into one another in game. Also I'm quite strict about refusing names that are clearly not suitable for a RP server.

What you said about this being more of a PvP game than a RPG is also true, perhaps I'm stressing too much about that. And a good point about prioritization as well. It'd be different if the Elders was something we just conjured, but it does indeed have history.
Shalestina Sulistaine
The Elders Fleet
#39 - 2012-07-13 15:14:13 UTC
Bunnie Hop: Oh nice to see there are more of us about! :-) It's funny the psychological effect the avatars visual style has in this game. I feel like I fit in age wise just perfectly, where as in many other MMOs the avatars would look much younger and childish and I - as an older player - would feel sort of out of my element. But none of that here. Love the style of this game so much, right up my alley.

Everyone keeps recommending the University corp so much that I might just have to roll a new character for the very purpose of joining it :-).

Celeste Taylor: Oh nice to see another old UO player :). Intereasting note about the different ways men and women design their female characters. I'll have to make a note of that and see if I notice the difference :). This must go both ways though, 'cause I made a male character and boy, he looks evil and daunting as hell!

Glad to hear you're still enjoying the game and the honeymoon isn't over for you, yet at least. Sounds promising :-).

Celeste Lovette: Thanks for the tip, I'll be sure to do that :-)

Tomcio FromFarAway: Aww gosh, thank you for such kind words. Not quite sure what I said to deserve that but I hope I'll be able to live up to it and offer something positive to this community! I have to say that already now, I am endeared and charmed by this community. Had I posted that same post in a WoW forum for instance, half of the responses would have been like you see here, but the other half would have been downright hostile, if for no other reason than the fact that they can and will get away with it. And J'Poll, maybe I'll have to venture over to the trolling side just before going out on my first serious PvP adventure to work up some aggro hehe :).

Ursula Thrace: Thank you! Nice to hear that we older folks have a place here. Now all I need to do is convince my guildies to come over as well. I already posted the link to this thread, to show them what a lovely reception I got. After seeing this, how could they resist? Ah well, I'll let them get over their Secret World excitement first. Already now I've seen a couple drop away TSW due to performance issues. *rubs hands together, cackling to herself*

As for RvB, PvP intimidates me unless I know exactly what I'm doing, so I think I'll stick to more cowardly tasks like exploration for now until I start to get some game play skills. But I'll certainly keep RvB in mind when and if the time comes, thank you. :-).
Lyric Lahnder
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#40 - 2012-07-13 15:51:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Lyric Lahnder
Couple things about gender in EVE. Only until recent history have we had full body avatars.

From my point of view I thought that this made eve more inviting to females. People will be judged by there efficiency, capability, and trustworthiness in this game. Not by much else. Skill and Trust are both commodities in this game and are in great demand. Most FC's and Alliance leaders dont care who you are if you can get kills and are reliable and hopefully aren't a spai.

There are more female avatars in game then male despite the population make up.

Check out the Voices from the Void podcast with Arydanika. The person who said you should join industry and might find more women... Sadly I think Arydanika might disagree with you there, she founded the Women of EVE channel and if im not mistaken most of them are pvper's.

Id say because of the CSM among other things women have had a pretty big impact on the development of this game with people like Mynxee and other female members of the CSM.(PS if you dont know the Council of Stellar Management is a dually elected board of players who advise CCP in game development)

Eve draws in a more diverse and more mature crowd because of its complexity. As Far as women go I've seen several trends:

One: If your in a much larger alliance you are much more likely to find them in leadership Positions.

Two: If your in a smaller alliance/corp you tend to wear female members like a badge of honor: It means your corp has the maturity to attract female members, and Female members will bring more female members into your corp so that means more pilots to get more work done. Either way a female member who stays in your corp long term is always a good thing. Diversity of views and another avenue for recruitment.

Three: Even in groups like Goonswarm and Test alliance who some people have described as being: "Imature, Racist epithet uttering, ogre's" Have plenty of female members. These members, were on the something awful forums, or are redditers so most of what goes on they either think is funny themselves or they just have really thick skin.

In new eden women are both welcome and should feel welcomed by almost all corps and alliances. Most established corps an alliances like real companies all ready have avenues in place to report things like harassment or unwanted attention to leadership, and considering the value of female members these transgressors are usually dealt with swiftly.

Noir. and Noir Academy are recruiting apply at www.noirmercs.com I Noir Academy: 60 days old must be able to fly at least one tech II frigate. I Noir. Recruits: 4:1 k/d ratio and can fly tech II cruisers.